सिर्जनाजीको कुरा पढे पछी मलाई ANA-Boston को अर्को प्रसँग आयो। साझा सवालका संचालक नारायण श्रेष्ठले कार्यक्रमलाई दर्शक दिर्घामै बसेर हेरिरहेका हाँस्य कलाकार मनोज गजुरेललाई सोधेको एक प्रश्नमा गजुरेलले म त देशको सेवा गर्न फर्किएको भनेर अमेरिकाबाट नेपाल गएर धक्कु लगाउने एउटा समूहलाई लक्षित गर्दै भनेका थिए "कतिपय नेपालीहरु अमेरिकामा ग्रीनकार्ड बनाउन सकेसम्म कोशिस गर्छन्, असाइलम गर्छन्, यो गर्छन्, त्यो गर्छन्, सके जति सबै गर्छन्, अन्त्यमा केही सिप नलागे पछि नेपाल फर्किएर म त देशको सेवा गर्नलाई विदेशमा पाएको अवसरलाई छोडेर आएको भन्छन्।" त्यस्तो ढोङी हुनुभन्दा त बरु हाम्रो सुमन खरेल जि जस्तो "लौ है, मैले विदेशी नागरिकता लिए है" भनेर खुलेआम भन्नु रामो।

Geology Tiger · Dec 12, 2010 7:17 PM

Agreed Tiger Ji.  

Srijana 12 · Dec 12, 2010 8:45 PM

jaaso gara je bhana jataa sukai laijau malai, yo man ta mero Nepali ho....

terobaaje · Dec 12, 2010 11:01 PM

I am not an immigration expert but I don't see any shortcut to get a us citizenship within 7 years of landing here as a student unless you apply asylum  the very next day. And if that is the case then, is that shit worth being so proud of ???  Peace

sna · Dec 13, 2010 8:32 AM

Euta fiction movie banau bhanne Sochi rako tge, story ko ta timlai nai Jimma dinu parla jasto cha :0

sna · Dec 13, 2010 8:37 AM

GT जि कुरा त तपाईंले ठिकै नै गर्नुभएको हो तर जुनसुकै बाहनामा किननहोस्, नेपाल फर्किने नेपालीलाई म बिदेशमा बस्ने भन्दा शाहसी नै मान्दछु। बिदेश्मा बसेर नेपाल जान नचाहने नेपाली को बाहनाको list एती धेरै लामो छ जो हामी सबैलाई थाहानै छ। नेपालमा यो छैन नेपालमा त्यो छैन आदी आदी। नत एस्ता नेपालीमा आत्मबिश्वास नै छ  नत नेपाल फर्कने कुनै आँट्, नत छ्यमतानै. नेपालमा बस्नेहारु leftover मात्र हुन र आफु मात्र प्रतिववान ठान्ने  गलत मानसिकताले ग्रशित छन धेरै बिदेशेका नेपालीहरु र आफु बिदेश्मा बसेर नेपाल र नेपाली लाई नेपालमा बसेकाले भन्दा धेरै गरेको कुराको धाक दिन कहिले नि पछी पर्दैनन। यथर्थमा नेपालमा बस्ने qualified मान्छेहरु अमेरिका आउनेभनदा काम छैनन। सिमित नेताहरुको उधाहरण्  दिएर नेपालमा बस्ने र फर्कने अत्मबिस्वसी  talented नेपालीको बारेमा  बिदेश्मा भसिएका हामीजस्ता नेपाली ले गलत बिस्लेशन नगरेकै बेस हो जस्तो लाग्छ। बिदेश्मा बिदेशी नगरिकता लिनको लागि आफ्नो योबनको  र जीवनअको एक काल्खन्ढ नै बितआउन लालयित नेपाली भन्दा त नेपाल फर्केर सानो तरकारीपसल थाप्ने नेपाली नै किन नहोस्, म त्यो प्रती नतमस्तक नै हुन्छु।

shantipriya · Dec 13, 2010 9:00 AM

अरु त ठिकै छ तर अमेरिकामा जसो गरेपनि स्त्यातुस नमिलेपछि नेपाल फर्केर आफुलाई कत्तिन देशभक्त भन्नेहरु देखि हाँस उठ्छ आखिर जो जहाँ बसेपनि आफ्नो च्वोइस हो त्येस्लाई विश्लेषण गर्नेहरुको फुर्सद धेरै भयो जस्तो छ

grgDai · Dec 13, 2010 9:13 AM

GD, what do you say to those who spent their good chunk of life in just maintaining status, one college to another cheaper college-degree, then kaplan, then B1 then H1 or never h1 then asylum to no legal status. How many bright student have lost their status in search for status.People who go back does have the right to say that they are for the country and family-at least they choose to go back instead of searching for status of status. if you want to laugh, laugh at those who does not have courage and potential to go back. Remember, many folks in this recession went back and doing hell lot of good job than what people are doing here.

shantipriya · Dec 13, 2010 9:25 AM

suman ji , congrats for being the citizen of the USA, for lot of the nepalese its a dream come true. and i also admire your emotional attachment to the nationality that you are so proud of and want to be remain that way.  well there is always a rift between legality and morality and the emotions we all go through.  I dont think that the nepal govt would be happy to strip off its citizens of its citizenship once they acquire citizenship of any other nation. Thats why now they have issued NRN cards and they are en route to issuing a citizenship cards but wtih some limitations to the NRNs which is a very promising thing for lot others like you, and the future is not as bleak as you think of. but my point is , we should not be limited to a piece of identity when it comes to your loyalty and faith to your country and people. as sun spreads its warmth no matter how far away it is, you can make your presence felt by your actions, bring the same warmth to the country and countrymen, no border, no paper or no nationality will be an obstacle .  Personally I would be more than happy to see an electrical engineer working in a micro hydro power in a remote village in nepal rather than going off the subject and doing some programming  work in USA to make big bucks. But very few have the guts to make a big decision like the first one.  So its about making a difference, if you are able to do that nepalese wont consider you just a citizen, they will hail you as a hero, or u just want the piece of mind that you have two citizenships and you have both the doors open, u will be lost in oblivion as thousand others are.  

dHwasE · Dec 13, 2010 2:16 PM

I'd have felt better if I had addressed you something other than Dhwase ji, however, thank you for such a lovely response. I really believe in what you and Geology Tiger have to say. I listen to my heart more closely than my association with any social institutions. Whether I'm American, chinese, or a resident of Mars, no once can strip me off my belief of what makes me happy. I'd be happy to make a meaningful difference in Nepal, and that's what I'm after. These intellectual fist-fights get us excited and swing us different directions, but somewhere in the depth of my solitude, I know I'm happy with my conviction.  

Suman Kharel · Dec 13, 2010 4:23 PM

in my opinion we tend to focus and pay attention to what Nepal lacks than what it has to offer and we focus on negetivity and make our minds to stay here. thats what almost everyone is determined to stay here by hook or crook

kaji sahab · Dec 13, 2010 4:40 PM

kaji sahab, you are 100% right-that is what I was trying to say. to add to that very few people like you have courage to speak out truth. " Nepal nafrikine US ma basneko sayawota bahana"

shantipriya · Dec 13, 2010 6:12 PM

kasto off topic kura garchha yo maanchhe haru, Hook or crook citizen payeko ta complain nai chhaina ni writer le, So you mean to say that he doesnt have any right to love Nepal? shantipriya are you jealous?? ke ko bahana?? he has his entire Family, relatives, friends, memories that will forever bind him to Nepal, American bhayo bhane bau aama ta Nepali nai hun why bahana ? American bhayo bhanne kapal blonde and aakha blue, burger and pizza, 6 feet tall, and every memory of Nepal, family wiped out hunchha ra?? Kasto tuak kura garchan.....the writer loves Nepal and feels for Nepal,  whats wrong about that?

terobaaje · Dec 13, 2010 6:30 PM

baaje you are right but what we are saying is not off topic. kura yehi bata suru hunchha. ani auta determination banchha nepal na farkine. ani hook or crook le citizen hunchha ani balla mitra ko jasto stage ma aai pugchha.my 2 cents

kaji sahab · Dec 13, 2010 6:36 PM

My point is If the writer says he loves Nepal then why are  people are telling him that his love is Fake and he is making excuses ? why because he is no longer Nepali citizen? He changed his country? Given the opportunity  I bet most Nepali will change citizenship, or gladly accept Green card.  If he got his citizenship than let him be, if you think he is at loss then its his loss not others here who think that NOW he has no right to love Nepal. He hasnt complained about his citizenship here but feel a conection to Nepal even after. Hook or crook ko kura chhaina bro, payo bhaane many will take it. As for me Im not a citizen, I do have GC and have kids here, will I be a citizen here? Nope, I want to retire In Nepal, thats just me.

terobaaje · Dec 13, 2010 6:47 PM

terobaje, why are you having hard time to accept the reality and so reluctant to admire those who go back to the country- at least, majority of  them are in a better position to make a difference than majority of those who are here, irrespective of their status. So why in a hell, what is need of being a jealous for the people who are here living here-isolated from their relatives, their country, from their own place-irrespective of how much money you are making-are they really happy? tension free? relaxed? -even from Suman kharel's point of view, having got US citizenship, still he is not happy-(he may not accept and pretend that is different matter) but his whining story give clear picture!

shantipriya · Dec 13, 2010 7:26 PM

terobaje, why are you having hard time to accept the reality and so reluctant to admire those who go back to the country- at least, majority of  them are in a better position to make a difference than majority of those who are here, irrespective of their status. So why in a hell, what is need of being a jealous for the people who are here living here-isolated from their relatives, their country, from their own place-irrespective of how much money you are making-are they really happy? tension free? relaxed? -even from Suman kharel's point of view, having got US citizenship, still he is not happy-(he may not accept and pretend that is different matter) but his whining story gives clear picture!

shantipriya · Dec 13, 2010 7:27 PM

congratulation  on your second class citizenship. Time will tell buddy just wait. Nothing wrong with getting new one, jani jani kana giving up is very sentimental and sin to some people that's all. Join the lobby NRN and tell how much money , skill you can bring in poor  country with dual citizenships, go ahead, measure it up with price skill but that is not the point. THE POINT IS YOU GAVE UP PRICELESS ITEM IN FIRST PLACE WITH FULL CONSCIENCE WITHOUT ANYBODY FORCING INTO IT. wish you the best, you can remain be nepali no problem, people do it for different reasons I totally got it.

( * )( * ) · Dec 13, 2010 8:12 PM

helping the country and crrrap ya right! he'll soon be there to sell his land and house to bring money over... when he's really old and when social security will be bankrupted by then.. he's going to have a one heck of a time.. good luck.. 

kalopani · Dec 14, 2010 2:51 AM