can u share us some idea abt ccna prep. book?

sojo_kta · Jan 22, 2010 10:27 PM

Sure dude ! Will let you know if I come across it. btw, have any exam preparation question for CCNA? I do not want a study guide or e-books. If you have anything to practice CCNA do let me know dude.

khairey · Jan 23, 2010 12:45 PM

1. Study thoroughly the ebook. 2. Go for Dumpers. Ex pass4sure. I'm not sure about the exact link. I got it via my friend. The version gets updated and its good to get the latest updated version of the pass4sure before actual exam. 3. Download simulators/emulators where you can practice the commands.

no_more_crush · Jan 23, 2010 2:17 PM

no_more_crush, I strongly agree with you that it's waste of time to look jobs on jobs website. We sincere Nepalese cannot compete with Indian applications who are so confident showing all fake experiences. I don't know how they actually work if they get job. I had same situation as yours. My suggestion is go for local job agencies (government ones). I don't know how it works in USA but in UK there are government job search locations in different places where unemployed people can go and look for jobs in their database and also print jobs which you find relevant to you. Many companies (mainly small ones) who do not want to spend money in advertising their job or do not want to pay money for agents, directly post jobs in these government agencies database. Also small companies who have small no. of staffs and do not have time to post jobs on different job sites also do so. I recently got job in that way. I realized that i wasted all 6 months applying jobs online for nothing. Very good lesson for life. Click here to subscribe to no_more_crush's postings. You will get notification when the users posts in sajha. Loading...';ajaxpage('subscribeto.cfm?userid=491feaee-b6ac-4808-94ec-82aa610fb0b5','subspan1');">

lovenepalalways · Jan 23, 2010 3:14 PM

@lovenepalalways: Thanks for your information and sharing your experience. I' have been actively looking for jobs online/personal reference since last 1 year. Unfortunately, nothing is working out. Although it was waste of time for me regarding job hunting , i  got more knowledge about the subject matter and how things work in production environment (via training, self study, certifications). I don't have information about the government jobs but i will try to have more information about those. Lets see how it goes from here. Thanks

no_more_crush · Jan 23, 2010 3:33 PM

Are you in USA? I will try to search and see if anything pop up. I am not saying it's government jobs. It's government supported job search agencies targeted to provide service to employed people. Do let me know if you are in USA or other country.

lovenepalalways · Jan 23, 2010 4:07 PM

no_more_crush, if you are in USA, try checking websites like below. Since USA is a big country, different states might have their own way of services. Find a agency like this one in your local area. http://www.dol.gov/dol/locatio... http://www.careeronestop.org/ http://www.job-hunt.org/state_... If you search jobs online, make sure you look for graduate jobs or may be internship. It's worth working for less for sometime until you become valuable to the job market. All the best. Click here to subscribe to no_more_crush's postings. You will get notification when the users posts in sajha. Loading...';ajaxpage('subscribeto.cfm?userid=491feaee-b6ac-4808-94ec-82aa610fb0b5','subspan6');">

lovenepalalways · Jan 23, 2010 4:18 PM

@lovenepalalways: Thanks for your prompt reply. FYI, I'm in USA. I'm going through your links. Will keep you posted if something turns around. I will also send you email via sajha profile Thanks.

no_more_crush · Jan 23, 2010 5:23 PM

Most of the job offers come from employee referral(wherever). I would say Sajha could aid as a nice platform to get people who are on similar interests aboard on their workplace. Specially, the fresh graduates. Your Degree and Certifications look promising. Do you have any experience managing a small-scale/large-enterprise/nationwide networks? If so, what is your strength in? It would be nice, If we could look at your resume. That way people can act as a referral for you if its a match. Entry level jobs are quite a task for networks/systems however unless you can exploit/impress with your hands-on research/internship experience on managing small/large area networks during your school years. Good luck for the job hunt.

Sleepless · Jan 23, 2010 6:17 PM

@Sleepless, your first statement is fully agreeable, and I second that!!  If the torchbearers lend a hand to the fellow enthusiasts/followers, this can happen. But it requires some work on our perceptions and a bit of mind restructuring - unfortunately it wasn't a part of the cultural lessons we all learned! ;-) @no_more_crush,Here are some of my tips based on the experience not expertise (I'm nowhere near a recruitment expert) ;-)  Loosen your requirements and stress on quantity: Apply to as many matching positions as you can, and increase the odds of getting contacted. Worst case is a rejection, but you learn 'lessons' through each attempt. Look for Internships: If you have few more months left on your OPT, shoot for an Internship position, and continue with your job hunt both internally and externally. Many interns end up getting hired full-time at the same firm. Obtain (or hone in on) a specialized skill: Leverage yourself to 'Stand out in the Crowd'. You're already on your way to it - with the Masters and some certs under your belt. There are fields within IT/Computer Engineering that still severely lack appropriate expertise and you could be one of the ones to fill in a portion of that gap!  The path: CCNA->CCNP->CCIE has become a pretty common route now, especially among the Indian IT candidates that are taking up a huge chunk of Network Engineering position with CCIE cert and no experience. Impressions aren't the same as they were few years ago! Look for a slight deviation from the above path, if possible.Fake till you break: Don't fake your resume, fake your attitude! Show your confidence --- make it up, and boost it higher; establish rapport with your strong self assurance and see how it eventually becomes a part of YOU!Good Luck!~@~

SAAJHA · Jan 23, 2010 8:32 PM

@sleepless and @Saajha: Thanks for the information. It's really difficult to get an interview applying as a fresh graduate since it's been a year I graduated ( December 2008). My real resume clearly reflects a one year ( significant ) of gap after my graduation.&nbsp; However, I can defend myself stating that I have sharpen my knowledge via Certification, self study and training.&nbsp; Moreover,&nbsp; I'm in better stand&nbsp; technically than i was in December 2008 ( becoz of certification, self study and training). Right now I'm with one of the desi Consultancy via which my OPT extension is in process. I can even defend myself whats there on my resume and am confident about following technical skills ( as per my Resume) Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} &nbsp;&nbsp; Expert Knowledge on MPLS, BGP, MP-BGP, OSPF, EIGRP, RIP, static route, IP addressing, sub netting, VLSM, access lists, prefix lists, route maps, OSI and TCP/IP model, LAN/WAN, SNMP, VPN, VLAN, STP, VTP, MLPPP and ether channel. ·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Expert knowledge of high end routers such as Cisco GSR Routers (12016, 12406, 12416, 12810); distributed layer switches (6504, 6509, 6513); access layer switches (4510, 4948, 4507); Juniper Routers (M320). ·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Good understanding of network monitoring tools like SNMP, Cisco Works. ·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Demonstrated quality testing skills while certifying Cisco IOS. ·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Familiarity with the capabilities of range of Cisco PIX, ASA (5500, 5520) Firewalls. ·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Expert knowledge of Redundancy Protocols: HSRP, VRRP, GLBP. ·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Knowledge to improve OSPF convergence by controlling SPF algorithm and LSA throttling. ·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span

no_more_crush · Jan 23, 2010 10:07 PM

Looks like you have gained pretty much knowledge through your self study and certifications. That would definitely pay one day. But I would like to suggest you not to mention too much details about all the protocols at your resume. I guess, you don't have years of experiences working with these cisco stuffs. So if you don't have experiences just highlight you have CCNA certifications and could manage SOHO to Mid-Level&nbsp; organization's telecommunication needs. If they are looking for CCNA they know what to expect from the candidate. Mentioning all these protocols and too much details will sometimes scare recruiters that you might be over qualified for the entry level jobs. And sometimes it looks fishy to have knowledge on lot of these technology but no experiences. Also, just mentioning in short about your skills may help as&nbsp; the recruiter will likely contact you to know more details about your skills. Also, sajhaa above suggested to change a track from CCNA-&gt;CCNP-&gt;CCIE. I second to it, and suggest you to go for CCNP only when you really start working in this field. CCNP without experience will add no value to your career. I would suggest to go for some MCSE or some virtualization training instead if you are on to the track of system and network engineering/administration.

Khairey · Jan 24, 2010 3:28 PM

I have been working on cisco and networking stuff from last two yrs. No offence , but skill set you have mention is equivalent to the skill set one will get after around 5 yrs of experiances in diverse environment. There are hardly few companies that will have all these stuff implmented you mentionied in you resume. I have been working for two years for same company but till now i have not get permission to login to our GSR edge device. So, if you looking for entry&nbsp; level, junior position you better slow down. And try to diversify yourself on servers, San, virtulization, checkpoint etc..This is just my personal view.

meraj · Jan 24, 2010 7:36 PM

@khairey ; @miraj ; @sleepless and @Saajha: Thanks for your suggestions.I don't have any recent plans to go for further certifications. I need a platform to sharpen my skills and knowledge. Unfortunately, It's hard to find entry level jobs in the market. I never got a single interview call with my real resume. I'm trying my best though. Now I'm even looking for some sort of internship( something is better than nothing). Furthernore, I'm taking training on UNIX, Sun Solaris 8/9/10, Solaris Volume Manager, Veritas Volume Manager, Linux. I have installed Sun Virtual Box in my machine and am running Solaris 10 on my machine. Its really handy. I know it sounds weird when i put everything in my resume, but I'm mentioning about those protocols, routers/switches since i know about them. I can defend myself as a entry level engineer regarding those stuffs :) P.S: I'm really happy to get positive feedback/motivation/suggestion from sajha readers. appreciated. Lets see if i end up well.

no_more_crush · Jan 24, 2010 9:02 PM

Very constructive discussion going here. Suggestions here are very practical and truly applies in real field. I had the same situation when I have mentioned all modules of SAP in my resume and the feedback from one Nepalese SAP consultant is that "you are writing too much on my resume.No one can practially have knowledge of all SAP modules."&nbsp; So he advised me to focus on 1,2 which I did, and listed others as "have exposure to". &nbsp;I do not know much about networking stuffs. What I suggest is you mention 1,2 sectors as your competitive sectors "strong analysis skills in..." and mention others as "exposure to" or "good understanding of". I do not know much about networking and I am sorry if this advice sounds totally irrelevant in networking field. :)

lovenepalalways · Jan 25, 2010 7:20 AM

HI No-more-crush With your electrical engineering background and good exposure with CISCO certification (as well as certification in-progress), your job search should be narrowed down in Telecom industry. My suggestion is -&nbsp;try with AT&amp;T, Verizon, Sprint, Level3, Quest and many other telecom companies. I work for one of US companies and project manage in Canada with many Canadian Telecom giants. Each com I work with is in lack of industry trained engineers in Canada as well as in the US. There are still jobs out there but just matter of&nbsp; 'right timing right location and candidates'. When you forward resumes to these companies, note attention to NOC Manager. Good luck!

abodh_1 · Jan 25, 2010 7:50 AM

1. From your resume, you are well versed with the IP side of the world. It is quite difficult for you to find the entry level Backbone engineering role, as they usually seek for experienced professional. But you pursuing CCNP is a good effort to "make believe" that you can do it. So keep on applying, you'd get it with a little bit of patience. 2. There are other domains of networking than IP(Design/Engineering). How about Wireless? Transport? DSL/DOCSIS? Voice? Video? If you have any of these, more chances of landing on jobs on the MSOs and Internet Service Providers than only enterprises. 3. If you go towards virtualization and systems you are getting out of track from your resume from what I see. That wouldnt count as a stength on the service provider network engineering role but obviously will expose you to more jobs to choose from Systems role. Only that you might not be able to use your MP-BGP knowledge in. 4. How about CCIP track than CCNP ? I looked at the course and it is more inline to your resume. 5. Never stop applying. Stop looking at Dice and consultancies. Know where you wanna be, and look for any openings on those service providers, and once you land up the interview, just nail it down. Also, i will let you know If I hear any positions that fits you. Good luck again.

Sleepless · Jan 25, 2010 12:30 PM

@lovenepalalways ;@abodh_1; @Sleepless I have narrowed down my resume on "Experience column". However in my "Technical Skill Set", I have mentioned about all the skills that i know (not necessarily hands on experience) with key words" Expert knowledge of..", "Exposure to..." "Strong analysis skills..". (Thanks to lovenepalalways. You are fine my friend. Your suggestions are relevant not only to me but also applicable to all other fields.). I'd definitely like to work and consider myself a good candidate for entry level jobs in Telecom industries such as AT&amp;T, Verizon, Sprint, Level3, Quest ( as mentioned by Subodh_1). @Subodh: Can you please put some lights on " note attention to Network Operation Center (NOC) manager" while forwarding my Resume. I will be more than happy if anyone can forward my real resume to their companies / to someone they know in this field.( does not mater if its Telecommunication/Service Provider/Enterprise. ) I'm ready to relocate myself anywhere in USA/Canada. For the time being, you can reach me at "no_more_crush@yahoo.com" and I will get back to you. I'd like to make one point here. Since i gradauted on December 2008, the first question on recruiter's mind will be" what did you do after your graduation ( Dec 2008- till now)? The second question ( it might be the first question as well :) ) will be :What's your status in USA? Do you need sponsorship? ~Thanks Last edited: 25-Jan-10 03:13 PM

no_more_crush · Jan 25, 2010 1:01 PM

@no_more_crush, how's the job hunt progress coming along? Hope you've landed somewhere by now. Also, you all set with CCNP? ~@~&nbsp;

saajha · Jun 4, 2010 10:06 PM

indians lie through their teeth, but with sheer confidence! fresh graduates as young as 24 say they have 8 years worth of experience, hire a proxy interviewee, only to go learn the ropes in the first month when the new entrants are mostly given a transition window to study project plans and blue prints of the deliverables they wish to produce. others get fired in a week or two, some in a month, and one acquaintance of mine, who went from a shitty consultancy came back after 3 months, fired! there was a nepali in the group too, who walked out one fine day, applied to about 50 places a day, and heard back from 3 places in 5 months and one hired him! that was some 18 hours worth of effort for those months! saathi haru, don't waste time in farmville! time to do useful things!

kailo · Jun 5, 2010 10:53 AM