Although i agree to the point that you are trying to make i disagree to the some of the things you mentioned.you are blatantly pointing your finger at BAHUN CHETTRIS, please show some evidence that they were the only ones who beat up and bullied the Madhesis.I have witnessed how some Jyapus and Newar people in Kirtipur, Kathmandu and Patan treated tarkari bechney madisey so you do not have the right to point your finger at one group. I still recall back in the day when cricket was not so popular in Nepal, some marwadi kids were ridiculed by Jyapu/Newars for playing the game. everytime they went out with their cricket bat someone from the bahal would shout "Marsya woh lah Marsya woh lah" Last edited: 14-Jan-10 09:56 AM Last edited: 14-Jan-10 09:58 AM

CyberLegend · Jan 14, 2010 9:56 AM

I never implied that Newars have not beaten up people from madhesh origin. I am sure some Newar/Bahun/chettris have been beaten up in madhesh too. But that is not the point. The main point I want to make is that some Chettris still to this day think they are the warrior class and that they are born warriors which makes me puke at their ignorance. Some of them want to show off their warrior skills by beating up or bullying the weak and the poor. Like I said, even a tame dog will bark and bite you if you taunt it too much. Warriors are made by circumstance and perhaps training, and nothing else.

jyapu no 1 · Jan 14, 2010 10:06 AM

well, i think thats only because of our history.chettri,magars and gurungs were the core of gorkhali army. and everyone knows the reputation  of gorkhalis. and by the way newars are the most privilaged non-durbariyas(shahs n ranas).and they are ALSO  full of communial bias against non-newars(marsya and khwasa names were given by newars).so pointing at B-C is not the solution. timi pahila newar bhitrakai discrimination(shakyas,shresthas,kasai ,jyapu and so on) hatau .thats more serious.i ve seen bahuns marrying rai or kami marrying chhetris but i ve also seen a kasai  guy being beaten to death by the girls side(guvaju). sabai jaat ma jatiya pride hunchha.but being proud on ur cast/creed doesnt mean u must humiliate the other. (eg-a patriot paki mustnt be an anti-indian and the other way round)

shiva_linga · Jan 14, 2010 11:09 AM

well, i think thats only because of our history.chettri,magars and gurungs were the core of gorkhali army. and everyone knows the reputation  of gorkhalis. and by the way newars are the most privilaged non-durbariyas(shahs n ranas).and they are ALSO  full of communial bias against non-newars(marsya and khwasa names were given by newars).so pointing at B-C is not the solution. timi pahila newar bhitrakai discrimination(shakyas,shresthas,kasai ,jyapu and so on) hatau .thats more serious.i ve seen bahuns marrying rai or kami marrying chhetris but i ve also seen a kasai  guy being beaten to death by the girls side(guvaju). sabai jaat ma jatiya pride hunchha.but being proud on ur cast/creed doesnt mean u must humiliate the other. (eg-a patriot paki mustnt be an anti-indian and the other way round)

shiva_linga · Jan 14, 2010 11:09 AM

If our founder PN had not united Nepal then India or some other small country that existed back in those days would, and you would still be complaining today. If PN was really greedy then he could just take the wealth, jewellery and treat the Newars and others as slaves , but he didn't. he made kathmandu the capital. he let newars practice their culture and practice business, they were never interfaired.yes, you are right after PN some Shah kings and their chhetry holdovers were selfish and greedy but we should not linger in the past.  everyone has equal rights in Nepal now so brining these kind of hatred messages on sajha only divides us.

kalopani · Jan 14, 2010 11:42 AM

PN shah was a great visionary.  -- Nepal 4 jaat 36 barna ko sajha fulbari ho.  - dibyopadesh by PN Shah  Tell me who could have spoken such words more than 200 years ago. He was way ahead of time. In this day and age we talk about how bad racisim is.  But PN then knew for Nepal to be prosperous all the jaat jatis must be together. --- Nepal dui dhunga bich ko tarul ho .                  - Means Prosperity of Nepal lies in between sound and balancing relationship between India and China.  This is exactly what we are seeing now. When Prachanda goes to china india is angry. When makune goes to india china is not so happy.   tell me who could have tought of these things centuries ago.

no_quiero · Jan 14, 2010 3:23 PM

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confused_soul · Jan 14, 2010 3:26 PM

Prithivi Narayan Shah is back. This time in Tito Satya. 1. 2. 3.

no_quiero · Jan 15, 2010 9:41 AM

back in the time when PN united nepal, its was certianly not an easy task for him but he had a vision that the time has come that we should be united and not fall in the hands of British. that was in part good. the war was with british from which we gurkhas were entitled the "BAHADUR" do you know with whom came this name? i guess we have to go back to class 8 where we studied samajiksikchya. There are all the stories of bal bhadra kuwar (i dont mean just thakuri here and i dont remember all of them) and others and in that book there’s a pic of a huge rock where the story of  brave gurkhas who fought in this battle and never gave up carved. this is our story and gurkhas are not just the people who are from gorkha but i guess all the people from nepal. well this is the story about us and i dont know how much in terms of percent newar rais baun and chetteri fought the war then. but i guess all of us participated and not just physically. so whats the point on saying that this is a newar rajya or a kiriti rajya. Do you think that they had this vision that if they fight with PN against bideshi tattwa they would one day get their own colonial rajya? why are we doing this? why we have fallen in the hands of some a$$h00le politicians and fighting among ourselves? those politicians are bunch of some illetrate jerk$ and we have been following them (i dont mean that there werent any good). there are always bad cults in a society but that doesnot mean that the society is bad. It’s our unfortunate that those small percentage of rotten have taken over our sociey in the name of politics. guys we all have bad in us, i guess some limbus doesnot like me may be because I don’t like them, but i have very good rai fren and i have lived with newars for several years. this is us. we have lived in such society for hundreds of years and we might have seen small fights between bauns and newars or chettries but we were also good frens then. i have lived in several part of the world and i have never seen such a harmony among the different ethinicity as i have seen in nepal, and i always had bragged about that.  a decade back nepal was such a peaceful place to live, i rarely heard of buglery. but now what have we become. first came maoist then colonist and what next has to come. sometime i feel good that i come to US. atleast people here discriminate me because i am not one of them, i was not here when US was built. i dont belong here. But when Nepal was made we were all there.

nepali kanchoo · Jan 15, 2010 10:41 AM

Jyapu Babu, timmile yo thread suru gareok suhayena. Yo thread suru garda chahi display name change garera suru gareko bhaye hunthyo. Hamilai (at least malai) yesto thread ko originator Nepali bhako bhaye badhi khusi hunthyo bahun, chhetri, jyapu, madhise hoina. And I think u just wanted to look good by starting the thread but the hatred inside u, against Chhetri especially, is not hidden. Try being a Nepali first and give up your EGO, then try realize what u have contributed to the country and people. Looking at your posts on other threads too u, my brother, r not a right person to give others lecture on being united against racism. But I appreciate the fact that consciously or sub consciously, u r trying to spread a good message as per the threads title.   Peace.   

namaskaar · Jan 15, 2010 10:52 AM

All nepalese are good only leaders are bad.. specially Prchanda Baburam girija madhav and so on.... most of them are bahun, unfortunately. I need to change my surname.. ha ha

Ved555 · Jan 15, 2010 10:00 PM