Homeji,"Personally, I don't like the idea of a Hindu Nepal. I like the idea of freedom, including the freedom to choose your religion and your beliefs. I don't want to see Nepal descend into a Hindu version of a religiously orthodox Taliban ruled Afghanistan. But at the same time, I don't want to see Nepal descend into a Somalia or a Cuba in the name of people blindly following the notion of equality without using their heads. "  First of all you are contradicting urself, so you came from a NEPAL WILL ALWAYS BE A HINDU NATION TO ....Religious freedom for all !!! ha ha ha  TRust me no Nepali would like to see Nepal turn into neither Afgani Taliban or lawless Somalia.   Homeji,"But if people are going to abuse the notion of equality to take Nepal into chaos, I, and others like me will not hesitate for a second to promote a Hindu version of Nepal if that is the only way to stop chaos like the kind that Prachanda is doing with the help of human rights organizations eager to promote the notion of equality to the blind masses who don't understand the consequences of his actions."      Here again you are contradicting urself, you go by saying pplm are going to abuse the notion of equality and propel the nation into chaos. Then you go on saying that at that moment YOU WANT TO PROMOTE HINDUISM ? Now isn't that taking taking advantage of the situation to benefit ur own cause ?  HOW ARE YOU ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE PPL YOU ARE SCRUTINIZING ABOUT ?  To me you just sound like another opptunist. he he  As far as Prachandey hoodwinking the human rights organiztions and promoting his own Commi agenda ?  Well we all got tricked into that one didn't we ?  That is why Nepali citizens overwhelmingly voted for him, trust him till that video came into light.  Most dicktators seize power the same way the Maoist did, I mean that is how the 3rd Reich came into power, that is how Stalin established Communism in Russia. Last edited: 15-May-09 02:26 PM

BathroomCoffee · May 15, 2009 2:22 PM

Dear Kanchu, Kancha i was just summarizing my point. If you want to see my reasons, then look at my other thread "The Origin of Hindu Religion" click here: http://www.sajha.com/sajha/htm... I have thrown you ample evident from veda scriptures to scholars findings. Now if you have doubt, then you should doubt your own existence. You claim that scholars work are bullshit and vedic text are the true doctrine. Prove me to the point in what way can we take veda text to be the Truth! Last edited: 15-May-09 03:03 PM

JPEG · May 15, 2009 3:03 PM

jpeg/pdf/png/bitmap- i said enough on the thread you are referring to. hope,oneday  you will be wise enough to understand context and relevance of the arguments. Everything does not fit everywhere, you will know when you will go to Grad School. " a fool tells more than he knows and wise knows more than he tells" for wise-no need to copy paste, no need to put irrevalent argument.

kanchu! · May 15, 2009 3:57 PM

Bathroom Coffee, My intention was to contradict. I didn't make the arguments that I did to be nice. I did it to just show that religious arguments cannot be easily be countered with logic and reasoning. Whether that be religious arguments in favor of 'equality,' the way Prachanda is doing or religious arguments in favor of 'Hinduism' that I was making.  You can think of my writn as a 'vaccination.' I gave out a small painless sample of a much greater and dangerous disease. Few people seem to understand the dangers of 'equality' movement in Nepal. Equality worked in the United States because there was only one 'thing' that liberals were trying to 'equal': black people. Equality was a comparison between the priviledge of the whites with the blacks. Equality also worked with gender because it was a comparison with men and female. Equality might even work with straights and gays. But equality will not work in Nepal with multiple ethnicities, because when those multiple ethnicities at the bottom of the wrung start to equal each other, it will turn Nepal into a civil war. This is the irony of democracy in the modern era. Right now, even in America, the political environment is so polarized between liberals and conservatives. The fact is that if the United States were to drop its constitution and start from scratch, it would probably decend into a civil war far worse than what we saw in Iraq. Right now with the amount of media there is, the notion of 'equality' just produces a lot of envy and violence. If it is true for the United States, what of Nepal? Last edited: 15-May-09 05:15 PM

Homeyji · May 15, 2009 5:09 PM

Kancha since you know a lot than me, then i expect you to help me with this phrase from veda. Srimad-Bhagavatam and Bhagavad-gita, states that anyone, including so-called low born men, may take shelter unto the Lotus Feet of Lord Krishna or His devotees. And this can be sanctified by initiation process. Now here's a list of so-called low born men and addicted to sinful acts who can take shelter unto the Lotus Feet of Lord Krishna, meaning getting salvation, being saved from the Lord.  kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasaabhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayahye 'nye ca papa yad-apasrayasrayahsudhyanti tasmai prabhavisnave namah upon translation is; Kirata, Huna, Andhra, Pulinda, Pulkasa, Abhira, Sumbha, Yavana, members of the Khasa races and even others addicted to sinful acts can be purified by taking shelter of the devotees of the Lord, due to His being the supreme power. I beg to offer my respectful obeisances unto Him. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.4.18) In the purport of this verse Srila Prabhupada describes the Pulindas as the Greeks, from whom Western civilization has descended, and the Hunas as the Europeans, who later inherited the Greek legacy. The Khasas are the Chinese, or Far-Eastern peoples. The Kiratas are described in the purport as aboriginal peoples from the Kirata province of "old Bharata-varsa." In another place Srila Prabhupada describes Kiratas as synonymous with Nisadas, residents of present-day Africa: Now you tell me Kanchu why kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa became to be called low born men and sinful?? These sinful, low born men listed are not even of the same race from the people who wrote down the Veda yet they are call by such humiliating and degoratory name. Can you give me one good reason. Kanchu or anyone? If not i will give you next time....................if you want! That's why Vedic Hinduism is full of crap! It plagiarize others religions, discrediting the owners. Now isn't that copy, paste and modified. That's what vedic Hinduism is folks! It tried to twist and turn so many facts and distort the truth and rewrite the mythology that they didn't see it coming that the very truth they twisted will come and slap their own face.

JPEG · May 15, 2009 5:30 PM