Who wins and who losses; should we narrow them into sub categories when the nation (its way of life, its future), social transformation for betterment, are lossing and the victors; advocators of might is always right and violence for a reason is justifiable. It is for us to decide where we support, it is not the incidence that is important it is culture we are setting in the society and for generations to come. I am finding ill-discipline and violence at forefront over logics in petty disputes now in Nepal. Never saw things like students having no remorse in attempted doushing of petrol over their CC over a small issue in the past. Dear friends as a witness to the changes in Nepali society it is not a happy picture and when such activities gets glorified the rush to compete for bad always remains. It is far worse back home then you may be imagining.

KaleKrishna · Jan 5, 2009 4:33 PM

   >बाहिर चोरहरु हाऊगुजी देखाएर नेपालीहरुलाइ मुतको न्यानोमा >नसुताम , फेरी नयाँ बिस्तराको मांग गरदैमा समस्या हल हुने >पनि होइन, समस्या त मुत नै हो नि ‌‌?       Mr Truth,   माओवादीको हाललाई गतिलो विकल्प उपल्ब्ध नभएको मान्दा पनि, जसरी निकट अतितमा राजा फालेपछिको भ्याक्युम पुरा गर्ने गतिलो नेतृत्व उपलब्ध नहुँदा नहुँदै पनि देखा जाएगा भन्दै जनताले राजा फाले, त्यसै गरी अहिलेपनि देखा जाएगा भन्दै माओवादी पनि फाल्नु पर्छ र त्यसो गर्दा खेरि नै consistent राजनैतिक तर्क प्रयोग गरेको ठहर्दछ भन्ने तपाईको बहस हो भने त्यसमा दम छ र तपाईले नेपाली जनतालाई त्यही कुरा सुनाउनु भए हुन्छ ।   तर मेरो हकमा भने, हिजो राजा फाल्ने बेलामा पनि र आज माओवादी फाल्ने बहस (presumably) भईरहदा पनि मेरो एउटै consistent सुझाब/advocacy के थियो/छ भने राजनैतिक vacuum उत्पन्न हुने देखिसकेपछि त्यसलाई पुर्ने competent नेतृत्व/शक्ति तयार पारीहाल्नु पर्छ नत्र यात्रा कष्टकर र दुर्घटनाले भरिएको हुन्छ ।   हिजो मैले त्यस्तो competent नेतृत्व तयार पार्न के के सुझाएको थिएँ, ककस्लाई सुझाएको थिएँ, कसरी र केके तर्कले मेरो सुझाव रद्धिको टोकरीमा पुग्यो  आदि मेरा दर्दनाक कथा सुनाउनु भन्दा पहिले यति भन्न चाहन्छु, जनआन्दोलन पछि यताका सारा महंगा महंगा अनिश्चितता, ढिलासुस्ती, अराजकता र अनपेक्षित हिंसा incompetent नेतृत्वको कारण हो भनेर देख्‍न गाह्रो छैन । किनभने जनआन्दोलन देखि यता तीनवर्षमा देखिएका अपेक्षित र अनपेक्षित हरेक समस्यामा कुनै यस्तो एउटा पनि समस्या छैन, जुन लोकतान्त्रिक गणतन्त्र र यससंग आवद्ध मुल्यमान्यताद्वारा सम्बोधन र समाधान गर्न नसकियोस् ।   अनि Competenet cometenet भन्दा म के कुरामा सतर्क नै छु भने मैले नेपालको राजनैतिक क्षेत्रको बौद्धिक यथार्थप्रति आँखा चिम्लेर आकाशबाट झर्ने competent नेतृत्वको कुरा गरेको चाही होईन ।   गणतन्त्रलाई पूर्ण रुपले internalize गरिसकेका र स्वच्छ छवि (हुन त यो शब्द cliché भईसक्यो तर पनि यसले अझै अर्थ राख्‍छ) का एकजनालाई नेपाली कांग्रेसको राजसिंहासनमा विराजमान गराउन सकियो भने नेपाली कांग्रेसले ठूलो नैतिक पुँजी प्राप्त गर्छ । अनि उसले नेपाली कांग्रेसलाई legacy मुक्त नयाँ दलको रुपमा रुपान्तरण गर्ने सम्मको स्वतन्त्रता पायो भने, काम तमाम भयो भनेर सम्झे हुन्छ । एमालेको हकमा पनि त्यही कुरा लागु हुन्छ । अन्यथा कोईराला, देउबा, माकुने र झनाख हरुले हाँकेका टपरटुईयाँ दल  माओवादीको विकल्पको रुपमा प्रस्तुत हुन त्यत्तिकै हो ।   अब पुराना कुरा । विस्तृत बयानबाट सबैलाई बोर गर्न चाहन्न । यत्ति भन्छु - शुरुमा मलाई नागरिक समाजले तदर्थ राजनैतिक नेतृत्व दिन सक्छ कि भन्ने आसा थियो र “लोकतन्त्र र शान्ति को लागि नागरिक आन्दोलन” (CMDP) वालाहरुलाई त्यसबारे सोच्न लगाउन मरिमेटी लागेको थिएँ । अन्य कुरासंगसंगै मलाई के पनि किञ्चित आसा थियो भने यो आन्दोलन विस्तार भएर एउटा व्यापक दल (सबै दलका योग्य योग्य नेताहरु यसैमा सम्मिलित भएर) मा परिणत हुन सक्यो भने त के चाहियो । तर नागरिक आन्दोलनका अगुवाहरुको view भने आन्दोलनलाई सिमित भूमिकामै राख्‍नुपर्छ भन्ने थियो, र मैले ज्यान गए पनि बुझाउन मनाउन सकिनँ मेरो कुरा ।   नागरिक अगुवाहरुसंग निराश भएपछि संसदिय दलहरुको रुपान्तरणतिर खर्च गरियो सारा बहस र उर्जा । संसदिय दलका समर्थकहरुले के भनेर मेरा कुरालाई ईन्कार गर्थे भने अब राजाको शासनको अन्त्य अवश्यंभावी छ, त्यसैले दल-रुपान्तरणको हतार छैन, त्यो भनेको सत्ता हातमा परेपछि गर्दै गर्दा हुन्छ ।   माओवादीसंग गरिएको १२ बुँदे सम्झौतामा माओवादी र संसदिय दलहरुले जनताको नाममा अब हामी सुध्रिन्छम् हामीलाई समर्थन गर्नुहोस् भनेर किटेरै भनेका छन्  (माओवादीले बुँदा नं ६ र संसदिय दलहरुले बुँदा नं ७ मा ) ।   सत्ता हातमा पर्‍यो, प्रतिज्ञा पनि बिर्स्यो ।   अब कुरा छोट्याम ।   अहिलेसम्म जेजति समय र अन्य कुरा अनावश्यक रुपमा खेर गए पनि हामी अघि बढ्नको लागि चाहिने सम्पूर्ण साधन र श्रोत हामीसंग छ (गणतन्त्रको national resolve छ, संविधान-सभा छ, अलिकति क्षतविक्षत भए पनि आम मानिसमा उज्यालो भविष्यको आसा र प्रतिक्षा छ र सबभन्दा ठूलो कुरा त चाहिएको खण्डमा फेरि फेरि पटक पटक जनआन्दोलन गर्न सक्ने साहस र जाँगर नेपाली जनतामा छ ।   अब यी साधन र श्रोतको उपयोग गर्ने ट्याम आयो भन्ने मेरो देखाई हो । र मेरो जोड चाही के भने पुरानो कमजोरीबाट सिक्न पनि पर्‍यो ।   अहिलेलाई यतिमै विश्राम लिएँ ।   Nepe

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Credence Trend · Jan 7, 2009 12:45 AM

Nepe,"जसरी निकट अतितमा राजा फालेपछिको भ्याक्युम पुरा गर्ने गतिलो नेतृत्व उपलब्ध नहुँदा नहुँदै पनि देखा जाएगा भन्दै जनताले राजा फाले, त्यसै गरी अहिलेपनि देखा जाएगा भन्दै माओवादी पनि फाल्नु पर्छ र त्यसो गर्दा खेरि नै consistent राजनैतिक तर्क प्रयोग गरेको ठहर्दछ भन्ने तपाईको बहस हो भने त्यसमा दम छ र तपाईले नेपाली जनतालाई त्यही कुरा सुनाउनु भए हुन्छ ." Ayy ho ra ? ha ha ha Khoi tyo Afno Murkhata lai liyera Nepali Janata lai dosh diney ? ha ha ha Typical Politician. Gyaney Chor desh chood bhanera UN Building agaadi Nepali Janata matrai thiyoo NEPE CHAHI TYAHAA THIYENA. ha ha ha Hasaucha yo manchey ley. Hami lai ta Ullu banauna khojcha ke bhanney !!! ha ha ha

BathroomCoffee · Jan 7, 2009 8:20 AM

Gyaney Chor desh chood bhanera UN Building agaadi Nepali Janata matrai thiyoo NEPE CHAHI TYAHAA THIYENA??? Nepe was also among these Bheda Nepali Janata niiiiiiii Raja fale pachhi Nepal 10000 MW ko battile jhaljhalkar sworga hunchha bhanneharu maddhe ke, kasto kura nabujhyaa, BC le. Bichara Nepe!!!   Nepe wrote on Republic Nepal issue: Happy first Republic Day to Newuser, Loote, Captain and all celebrating Nepalis ! http://www.sajha.com/sajha/htm...   I am missing the euphoria of the night of 24th April 2006, when I was so certain about the birth of the republic any minute. There has been some waiting fatigue and some developments that are making my personal celebration somewhat subdued. However I join all to celebrate and welcome republic Nepal.   Yet I can not help sharing this feeling that republic, my beloved, arrived today not alone but with somebody I am not fully familiar with. I was trying to put that in a shayari and this is what it became:   उल्टै सोधिन् प्रियतमले - किन भनेको ‘ओहो !’ मैले भने - तिमी त आयौ, तर साथमा को हो ?   Yesterday, we were celebrating the eve of republic in a small email group of friends. Here is my share. It has some solemn reflections that I could not hold.     > Friends, > > While we celebrate our dreams coming true, we must not forget two things. > One, those known and unknown fellowmen who gave their lives for the cause > and those fellowmen who suffered at the hands of insurgents and the rulers > for no good reasons, whose lives and dignities were rubbed, whose > whereabouts is still unknown and we don't know if they are celebrating the > day or have left that part to us. Republic has come with great prices, both > acceptable and unacceptable. Our celebration will be incomplete without > letting those who bore the burden of the impure war fought in the name of > republic know that we owe our republic, our celebration and optimism for > future to their sacrifice, endurance and hope. Let's pay a tribute to them > with our tears of sorrow for the dirty past and our hope and determination > for a clean and blessed future. > > Our determination for a clean and blessed future can only be possible with > our awareness about and acknowledgment of truth. And the truth is that, > there are people who don't want to let the truth be known. And there are > people who don't want to know the truth. But we have no right to eat the > fruit of the republic without knowing the full truth about the price some > people who are either no more with us or are waiting for their sufferings to > be acknowledged and healed, paid. Let's make a promise today that we shall > know the truth about all wounds, heal them and leave no stones unturned to > bring the abusers to justice. > > On the same note of our awareness, we must also be aware and acknowledge > that we have some political parties which have reluctantly accepted > "republic" part and others who have reluctantly accepted "democratic" part > of the "democratic republic" we are celebrating today. It is only common > Nepali folks who have longed and embraced "democratic republic" in full and > wholeheartedly and who will defend it against any deviation from any party > no matter how powerful they may be. So let's common Nepali folks know how > the republic depends on them and let the political parties know our > conditional acceptance to them. > > Republic is love of our lives and we shall defend it against any power, > whoever and however they are. > > Long live Democratic Republic of Nepal ! > > DK   __ __ __ __ __ __   Nepe Last edited: 07-Jan-09 08:38 AM   उनले शान्तिमा पनि पुरस्कारयोग्य योगदान पुर्‍याउन सक्ने ठाउँ छ । कान्तिपुर सम्पादकियमा भनिए जस्तै यदि वा जुन दिन माओवादीको फौजी संरचनाको त्यागपूर्ण अन्त्य हुन्छ, त्यस दिन त्यो त्यागपूर्णताको मुल्यांकन शान्तिको लागि योगदानको रुपमा हुनसक्छ । त्यसैले यस्तो पुरस्कार अलि चाडो कामै नसकिकन भयो भन्ने कुरामा म सहमत छु । तर योगदानको कदरको रुपमा नभएर बरु योगदान गर्न प्रोत्साहित गर्ने प्रयोजनको निम्ति पुरस्कार दिईएको हो भने पुरस्कारको नाम त्यसै अनुरुपको ‘शान्ति प्रोत्साहन पुरस्कार’ वा यस्तै केही बढी उपयुक्त हुने थियो । http://www.sajha.com/sajha/htm... Last edited: 07-Jan-09 08:48 AM   The following posting by Nepe makes more sense to me:     हरिदाई,   जनताले क्षमा दिईसके भन्ने तपाईको निर्क्योल/सिफारिस मा भने मेरो विमती छ ।   द्वन्दकालभरिमा हतियार बोकेर मर्न र मार्न भनेरै हिडेकाहरु (combatants) को ज्यान, भौतिक क्षति र मुलुककै भौतिक संरचनामा भएका क्षतिसम्म जनताले बिर्सिदिए भन्न सम्म सकिन्छ होला । तर कसैको केही बिगार नगरेका, निर्दोष सर्वसाधारणहरु (non-combatant civilian) माथि ज्यानै लिने, अंगभंग गर्ने र बेपत्ता पार्ने सम्मका युद्ध अपराधहरु राज्य र विद्रोही दुवै पक्षबाट भएका छन् र ती पीडितका प्रियजनहरु सूचना र न्यायको प्रतिक्षामा बसिरहेका छन्, भौतारिईरहेका छन् भन्ने कुरा तपाईको आँखाले देखेकै/पढेकै हुनुपर्छ, तपाईको कानले सुनेकै हुनुपर्छ र तपाईको आत्माले मनन गरेकै हुनुपर्छ ।   अब ती पीडित र तीनका प्रियजनहरुलाई तपाई कसरी जनताले अपराधिहरुलाई क्षमा दिईसके, अब तिमीहरु घर जाओ भन्न सक्नुहुन्छ ?   त्यसैले साथी यो मामला अहिले थाती रहेको मात्र हो, अन्त्य भएको होईन । जस्तोसुकै कठीन र जटील भएपनि, जतिसुकै समय लागे पनि न्यायको दिन आउँछ आउँछ र जिम्मेबार अपराधीहरु जस्तोसुकै स्थानमा भएपनि न्यायको कठघरामा उभिन पुग्नेछन् भन्ने कुरा अन्य मुलुकमा दशकौं पछि पनि न्यायप्रक्रिया सक्रिय रहेका उदाहरणले पनि देखाउँदछन् ।   यत्ति हो त्यो मामला अहिले वस्तुत: थाती रहेको र मुलुकको राजनैतिक पुनर्संरचना जस्ता पर्खिन नमिल्ने कामहरुमा मुलुक व्यस्त रहेको मात्र हो । त्यसैले बिग्रेको केही पनि छैन, निराश हुनुपर्ने कुरा पनि छैन र हात बाँधेर बस्न हुने बेला पनि होईन ।   न्यायप्रणालीलाई स्वतन्त्र राख्न चनाखो रहेर, न्यायको मुद्धालाई मनबाट कहिले हट्न नदिई, मुलुकको रुपान्तरणलाई सहयोग गर्दै गए यो काम पनि फत्ते हुन्छ, न्यायको दिन पनि चाडै आउँछ ।   हाम्रो राष्ट्रिय जीवन यही हो, जीवनको यथार्थ यही हो ।   Nepe http://www.sajha.com/sajha/htm...   It seems that Nepe was very positive and hopeful on Maoists in the begining of Republic Nepal, but as days passed, he is not happy with Maoist performance, but still hopes to bring them on track (based on what he wrote a few weeks back: a slap on Maoist might bring them to a right track). I am yet to do research on Nepe's postings in pre-republic-nepal era. Nepe seems to be slowly shifting his views on Maoists based on their performance. It is understandable. Nepe is really a difficult person to understand in Sajha.com whether he is: an opportunist (waiting in the middle for opportunities) or a strong man who has his own strong belief and understanding on world. Time will show who he is. Keep watching. He is certainly not a simple Dahi Chiure Nepali, that much I have understood from his recent postings. Last edited: 07-Jan-09 09:10 AM

CEO · Jan 7, 2009 8:33 AM

&nbsp; Bathroom, &nbsp; If you are really interested to judge the choices we made in the past, here is how it was. &nbsp; With yet to be competent leadership of the parliamentary parties on one hand and the irrepressible/irreversible momentum for pro-republic movement on the other at the time around Jana-andolan, there were three dumb choices and one right one: &nbsp; · The dumbest choice: (as made by people like Bathroom and some Sajhaites) Support the king or at least oppose the pro-republic movement &nbsp; · Dumber Choice: (as made by the old generation/elite Nepalese) Support the parliament parties anyway &nbsp; · Dumb choice: (as made by the senior citizens of the Citizen Movement ) Oppose monarchy and pay lip service or keep quite about other parties’ inadequacies &nbsp; · Right choice: (Made by Nepe and not too many people) Support the pro-republic movement without being complacent about the inadequacies of the leadership of political parties and Maoist. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Now I would like to share, particularly with CEO ji, the choice I had made and my share of endeavor to influence the movers and shakers I had access to at that time. &nbsp; Below are two pieces written to an influencing aguwa of then citizen’s movement (posted in Nepal Democracy Forum). &nbsp; Please note in the highlighted part how I had anticipated the current situation (Maoist running over the political parties and running the show without being fully qualified to) and suggested the solution (empowerment of the political parties through their ideological and organizational reform) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; From: DK To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:11:49 -0000 Subject: Re: belated response to ZZji &nbsp; X-jee, &nbsp; Thank you for your reply. (You mixed up ZZ-jee with me. However, I can separate my part in your reply). &nbsp; I know you are a very busy man. So I will try to be brief and talk about only one major point in this follow up. &nbsp; My major question, if I rephrase, was whether Girija Prasad Koirala jyu (No, not the president of NC, but the Commander of the movement for democracy. I would also add that it is not limited to physical Girija Prasad Koirala jyu.) is competent ENOUGH to lead and successfully conclude the movement. I am assuming that it is now fairly certain that the movement will not conclude in any other way than re-writing the constitution. &nbsp; X-jee, I gather from your reply that you think that the movement is able to go ahead with the status quo, if not a leadership in a real sense, of Girija Babu. Let's hope you are right. &nbsp; However, the way I see it, there are two problems, one old and the other one new, regarding Girija Babu's leadership/status quo for the movement. &nbsp; OLD PROBLEM: Girija Babu's supreme status in the movement is repelling or failing to attract the common people to the movement. &nbsp; My proof: (i) the vast number of common people who are still reluctant to join political movement (A quick interview with a small sample of them will certainly verify my assertion) &nbsp; (ii) recent dramatic increase in people's participation in political rallies have either associated with pro-republic civil society's initiative (the earlier phase) or with the Maoists (needless to emphasize that they are pro-republic) tacit arrival to the movement in understanding (post-12 points MoU rallies). None of the crowed rallies were inspired by Girija Babu. &nbsp; (Here I want to make a point to ZZ-jee who actually made a point from this that the movement has passed beyond the question of Girija Babu's leadership. And my point is that, yes, it has, for this mass, at least mentally. However this mass is still physically at the mercy of the political decisions Girija Babu makes. Then, there is a vast bigger mass, described in #(i) above, that has still issue with what Girija Babu's supreme status in the movement represents.) &nbsp; &nbsp; NEW PROBLEM: The Maoists are stealing the show. &nbsp; &nbsp; I do not have to discuss this one with X-jee. Nobody understands this one better than X-jee who is following every development so intimately, both professionally and intellectually. &nbsp; The Maoists have landed. And they are not coming empty hand. They are coming with a clear goal, solid roadmap, absolute determination and an army. Everything (except the army) that people were so desperately looking for and everything that Girija Babu (the leadership) failed to give. &nbsp; I think It is emergency time for political parties and the movement that wants to be led by them. The movement got to find a competent and aggressively competitive (to the Maoists) leadership before it is too late. &nbsp; I rest my case. However, I am restless. I am restless thinking if people (and civil society) have already started to give up on Girija Babu and look up to the reformed Maoists. &nbsp; &nbsp; I will be checking all papers and pratikriyas. &nbsp; &nbsp; Regards, DK http://groups.google.com/group... &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; From: DK To: nepaldemocracy@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:43:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [ND] Re: DEMAND FOR MAOIST CEASEFIRE &nbsp; &nbsp; X-jee and all friends, &nbsp; I have been carrying a serious complaints about lack of STRINGENCY in pro-democracy activism of&nbsp; the civil society in Nepal. &nbsp; Before explaining my complaint, however, I would like to talk about the things I admire Nepal's civil society (CS) about. &nbsp; I admire CS for it's strong grasp that peace and democracy are connected. SC no more talks about absolute or abstract peace in Nepal. Thanks to King Gyanendra's take over, it has opened everybody's eyes. Otherwise the discourse on peace before Oct 2002 used to be frustratingly abstract, so much so that Baburam Bhattarai used to ridicule by pointing that. &nbsp; I also admire CS for getting out of "twin-pillars" box of democracy. Once again with due thanks to King Gyanendra for revealing the bricks one pillar is actually made up of. &nbsp; I also admire CS for finally recognizing/identifying THE PEOPLE (Constituent Assembly/ Popular movement ) as the party that has the ultimate legitimacy and power to resolve the conflict the way it wants. &nbsp; However, there seems some confusion about it's stance on the nature of movement, political leadership and, more importantly, &nbsp;about post-conflict building of the nation. &nbsp; And this confusion, the way I see it, is not due to lack of knowledge about democracy or due to lack of intelligence to evaluate leadership &nbsp;or due to lack of imagination to speculate about future. &nbsp; This confusion, the way I see it, is due to being unsure about whether STRINGENCY or LAXNESS is more helpful to build a political &nbsp;movement. Err.. , No, actually CS seems to believe that STRINGENCY &nbsp;towards the perceived bigger enemy and LAXNESS towards lesser enemy is the way to go. &nbsp; That might be a good strategy for other situations in life, but not for the movement for democracy in Nepal. &nbsp; The movement for democracy in Nepal is not a uni-dimensional movement for "restoration" or even "establishment" of democracy. &nbsp; The movement for democracy in Nepal is a multi-dimensional (three-dimensional, to be exact) movement for "re-defining" democracy. &nbsp; Yes, "re-defining", but not really in unlimited way. The way democracy &nbsp;has come to this point of our history for re-definition, there are only THREE elements to be fixed. Let's say, we have three anti-democracy elements to reject. That's all. That will complete the job. The three anti-democracy elements that need to be rejected by our democracy are, &nbsp; 1. Illegitimate Ambition (king's) 2. Extremism (Maoists') 3. Unpopularity (Political leadership's) &nbsp; These three elements are inter-dependent. As a matter of fact, the stalemate we talk about is the stalemate of ambition, extremism and unpopularity of the King, the Maoists and the supreme leadership of &nbsp;the major party/ies, respectively. Being lax or apologetic or prioritized about one and stringent or militant about another will not work, because that will make you one of the parties itself. &nbsp; The problems of Nepal's democracy is extremely clear [to general mass]. So forget about LAXNESS. You got to be STRINGENT to every anti-democratic element and parties. Otherwise you won't get people's trust. And without people's trust, you can only go so far. &nbsp; CS in Nepal is the most trusted among all organized things at the moment. However, if it fails to exhibit it's stringent approach as I described above, I am afraid it is going to lose that trust soon. That will be the most disastrous thing to happen. &nbsp; So, I think, CS has one extremely rigorous test to pass/ show to people, which is that it is not soft to any of the three anti-democratic <P c

Nepe · Jan 8, 2009 11:36 PM

CEO Ji, &nbsp; Thank you so much for your guarded yet kind words to me and for your general interest about my views and position. &nbsp; I am an ordinary average Joe when it comes to the resources I have and how I live my life. However, there are few things I have been careful to keep intact against all pressure, temptation and odds. Thanks to my political disillusion at a very early age and other lucky happenstances and learning. They say power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. So If I got sold out in future, it would not be any wonder. However what I have now is already working as an aphrodisiac for me. So I am really hopeful that I am not going to be a sell-out, at least not very cheaply, anytime soon. &nbsp; As for my pre-Jana-andolan views and stuff, I would like to invite you to one posting that I had posted some 5 years ago here in Sajha as a reply to Ashu’s questioning about republicanism at that time. &nbsp; This is a must read piece for all those who are interested to know all about my political views, at least the way of my reasoning. &nbsp; WHY REPUBLICANISM FOR NEPAL Posted in Sajha: 03 September 2003 http://www.dkhadka.com/chithi/... &nbsp; &nbsp;As a motivation, I can perhaps tell the story that I have an impressive list of people who said the piece made a deep impact on their thinking about republicanism. And for honesty’s sake, I must also admit that I have also a frustrating list of otherwise very thoughtful people who were not influenced by the piece until republic actually came. &nbsp; Hope you will have patience to at least browse some random lines in the piece. &nbsp; best, Nepe

Nepe · Jan 8, 2009 11:38 PM

· The dumbest choice: (as made by people like Bathroom and some Sajhaites) Support the king or at least oppose the pro-republic movement &nbsp; Oh Really!! &nbsp;I supported the Monarchy ? When ? Please refresh my DUMB memory O WISE ONE. ha ha ha &nbsp; · Dumber Choice: (as made by the old generation/elite Nepalese) Support the parliament parties anyway &nbsp; Oh really ? hahaha Says who ? Says Nepe Maharaj who knows nothing but to point fingers and blame others rather than admiting his own mistake and MURKHYAYIII. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; · Dumb choice: (as made by the senior citizens of the Citizen Movement ) Oppose monarchy and pay lip service or keep quite about other parties’ inadequacies &nbsp;SAY WHAAA ? HA HA HA&nbsp; And you were not playing Lip Service screaming Gyaney Chor Desh Chod on the top of your lungs ? ha ha ha Hasaucha. And yes all of Nepali folks are dumb and Nepe is the only SMAAT ONE in all of Nepal. · Right choice: (Made by Nepe and not too many people) Support the pro-republic movement without being complacent about the inadequacies of the leadership of political parties and Maoist. &nbsp; And yes that is why we are in the predicament we wre in now.&nbsp; That is why the Maoist gave you guys&nbsp;Takmaa for helping them take over the country.&nbsp;&nbsp;That is why Nepali Janata is suffering now thanks to Geniuses like you. &nbsp;

BathroomCoffee · Jan 9, 2009 9:50 AM

hahahaha BathroomCoffee&nbsp;is a true anarchist and does not has any affiliations. I know that for a fact and anyone with a course in political philosophy can interpret that. So Nepe&nbsp; would be wrong if he suggested that. However, please do note that no one can save Nepal other then the Monarchy. The sooner you can realize that the better. Cause Maoists are terrorists and has only one agenda….. Make everyone poor and cry with them….. Kind of Indira Gandhi’s policy in India. Also, they r terrorists, which Indira Gandhi was no, so even worse. Also, they have no clue of doing anything except murder and it takes brains to do anything. &nbsp;

MN_Nepali · Jan 9, 2009 11:13 AM

Some fools still believe that those who oppose jangali terrorists are royalist. &nbsp; &nbsp;

CHYAME KANCHA · Jan 9, 2009 11:24 AM

While self appointed leaders like Nepe bask in the glory of their air conditioned offices and houses, accusing anyone who oppose the maoists as royalists, here's something from Ktm which deals with half a day of no electricity, from someone who's had to face shameless maoist actions of intimidation and exploitation and yet still stands strong enough to oppose their barbaric acts. Kudos to Ashu on his resilience. Strictly Business Spinning out of control The Maoists can't go on covering one lie with another lie ASHUTOSH TIWARI FROM ISSUE #433 (09 JAN 2009 - 15 JAN 2009) | TABLE OF CONTENTS SUBSCRIBE NT PRINT REFER WRITE TO EDITOR SHARE Share &nbsp;&nbsp;FACEBOOK &nbsp;&nbsp;DIGG &nbsp;&nbsp;REDDIT &nbsp;&nbsp;DEL.ICIO.US &nbsp;&nbsp;YAHOO! BUZZ --> Referral Your Name Email Friend's Email Message Code (Please type the code below.) --> Letter to Editor Your Name Email Message Code Please write the below code in the box to prevent from spam mail. --> Suppose, on one fine Sunday, young people affiliated with your political party storm into a media house, beat up managers and journalists and smash windows and furniture. The incident makes national and international news. What do you do? First, you deny that the incident happened at all, and that even if it did happen, your cadres were not involved. Pressed with evidence, you then say that it was actually the media staff who hired goons to beat up your staff when they had gone for a meeting. Later, you change the story to say that ex-royalists who had infiltrated your ranks were the ones who carried out the attacks, thereby giving your party a bad name. A day later, you make light of the attack, saying that only light beating had taken place, and that no murder had been committed. But as pressures mount, you finally send two named accused to surrender to the police. For a few days, they are kept in police custody, where they are served food from five-star restaurants and entertained by visits from ministers. Once the accused are released on bail, which amounts to a slap on the wrist, you make sure that they melt into the shadows. Thanks to your art of spin you carry on as if nothing has happened, while your henchmen gloss over details to paint the whole episode as oppression by feudal capitalists. Take another example. You force temple priests to submit resignations. You replace them with two local priests of your liking. You don't care about local sentiments nor about hundreds of years of history. You justify it in the name of nationalism, even though patriotism is the refuge of scoundrels. Guarded by goons, you force open the temple gates so the new priests could offer prayers to Shiva. Still, when a group of disgruntled junior priests stage a press conference to air their grievances, you send your goons again to beat them up in broad daylight in front of the media. Your hooligans also deliberately beat up some reporters and damage their equipment. Then you tell the same journalists on camera that your young communists were there to protect the temple from violence. The Supreme Court issues an edict to you to not touch the temple. But you carry on as if these man-made laws do not apply to your decisions, and that these protests will run out of steam soon. After a few days of intense protests from the public and negative media coverage in India, you meekly withdraw your decisions. These two incidents show that in today's 24/7 media, you can't go on covering one lie with another lie. True, you may shout the loudest by using half-truths to your advantage. Sooner or later, you will be found out, and voters and well-wishers will stop trusting you. When you are seen as untrustworthy, you don't function as a government for long. Sure, you can harass those in opposition by issuing death threats, but that is not why people elected you to power. They voted for you to get on with the business of drafting the constitution so that 28 million Nepalis can understand what the agreed-upon guidelines of the game are for their success, prosperity and happiness in Nepal.

saroj · Jan 9, 2009 11:31 AM

http://www.mysansar.com/?p=356... मैले खोल्न नसकेको रक्षा-कवच तिमीले खोलेर मैले मोल्न नसकेको जोखिम तिमीले मोलेर मैले बोल्नपर्ने कुराहरु तिमीले बोलेर एकैचोटी मेरो वर्तमानलाई निरर्थक र मेरो भविष्यलाई सार्थक बनाईदिएकी छ्यौ तिमीसंग ईर्श्या गरुँ कि कृतज्ञ बनुँ ? वा कुन मुखले क्षमा पाउँ भनुँ ? यही ग्लानी, रिक्तता र हरणबोधको श्रद्धाञ्जली तिमीलाई सात समुन्द्रपारको पलायनबाट यो भगुवाको ! Nepe 12 Jan 2009

Nepe · Jan 12, 2009 5:31 PM

With all due respect to Ashu and company, it is amazing that the Kathmandu based patrakars/elites/embassy, everybody, do all they could when a few mudkas were hit on some powerful people in ktm--ashuji even making us hope that this incidence could provide tipping point. I am sure not much will be done even with Miss Singh. Why? The answer is obvious. These people sleep before they are attacked, they sleep after their attackers are 'punished'. They continue to provide space for maoists supporters in their media. Can you believe a man called to take responsibility of the murder. And said, they actually wanted to kill someone else. I guess he too thinks prachanda-like-I-am-sorry is enough to get immunity. If prachanda gets away with the 'i-am-sorry' after 40 innocents' killing in chitwan or ramharsi shrestha's killing, why not this terrorist? atti bho.

newStudent · Jan 12, 2009 7:53 PM