Something has to be done to crete job opportunities. Blaming around is not going to help anyone. We are already here in the US for better life, and lakhs go to Arab countries for emoyment every month. Something has to be done. We have to care. Just blaming is not solving the problem.

harkhe7 · Aug 26, 2021 1:21 PM

MCC is an opportunity for countries like NEPAL. We can downsize the India, China influence through MCC . Afghanistan is a different story, its a land of terrorists . if anything that's destroying us ( Nepal ) at the moment and generations to come is TIk TOK ( china) not MCC, porn hub ( USA) . So, No Tik Tok, Yes MCC . MCC is a deal breaker . No MCC no TPS for nepal.

logankobaje · Aug 26, 2021 2:05 PM

लोगन तिम्ल्या यो कुराचाई जाती गर्येउ है। टिकतोक नेपालमा काम चै छैन तर एम सि सि पारित हुन दिनु पर्छ भन्ने पक्षमा छैन। अम्रिकन सेना नेपालमा आउनु ठिक हैन। चायेना इज नट गोइङ्ग तु बि हयाप्पी।

Tesla guy · Aug 26, 2021 2:15 PM

टेसला : हामी मूजि TPS र asylum को लागि ज्यान फाल्नेले MCC गलत छ भन्न सुहाउदैन , अम्रिकन सेना नेपालाँ आयो भने काम नभएर टिक टक बनाएर बस्ने धेरै नखरमाउलिहरुले काम पाउछन, मूजि खैरेहरु रिकृएसनमा धेरै पैसा फाल्छन

logankobaje · Aug 26, 2021 2:36 PM

Logankobaje: hahaha. ahile chai buda ko kuro maan paryo hai.

himalphedi · Aug 26, 2021 3:03 PM

Mcc bhaneko India ra America ke design gareko ho China lai chaaak daamna ko laagi. Timi [Disallowed String for - use not allowed] development ko kura garchau... chaheko bahye yei dhoti haru le Nepal lai sambriddh banau thyo ... hamile China Ko saath Aile diyeu bhane yo dosti jhan gaada huncha. China Ko ambassador Nepal aayera tharkaayeee sakyo. China will make Nepal prosperous. Yasto agreement banauna saknu laro China sanga Nepal le pani . American sainik lai kina chirna dinay. Nepal ma mcc aayo barhane India lai faayedaaa. I heard India have managed to secure 2 billion dollor from USA to pass mcc. Yasto bhayo bhane biswo tahas nahas huncha . Aru desh ma gayo hola Tara Nepal lai chahi daina sainik.

Tesla guy · Aug 26, 2021 3:15 PM

MCC bhanera khaire le free ma falya paisa eso euto national hydropower project ma lagae ta desh ko thulo kalyan hunthyo ni. Muft ma pako paiso lina kina yesto garo bhako nepali twake neta lai. No strings attached bhanera yetro bhanya bhanai chha khaire ambassador. Afno 10 percent cut lina napaine bhaera ni ho ki.

westcoastlad · Aug 26, 2021 5:24 PM

Sorry state of nepalese commenting here. Looks like the ones living in the US and asking MCC to be applied in Nepal have mentally been colonized. There are many ways to providing job opportunities in Nepal. MCC is not the only way. Furthermore, it is an investment of american and nepalese capitalists. They will exploit Nepal's natural resources to rake in all the month. And the ones getting jobs will get a minimum wage with difficulty to finish off the money. As they say pay-check to pay-check, hence a modern salve to millionaire and billionaire masters. Last edited: 29-Aug-21 02:23 PM

hurray · Aug 27, 2021 8:27 AM

मूजि अम्रिकाको visa लाग्दा बडा भोज गर्ने, सगुन खुवउने , ASSYLUM accept हुदा पाथिभरामा गएर बोका काट्ने , TPS extend हुदा केक काटेर साझामा उफ्रिनेहरु फेरी मूजि MCC पास हुदा अम्रिकाको दास हूइञ्च भन्नेर घोक्रो फुटाइ रा छन् बा । तिमीहरुले खोजेकै दासत्तो होइन र ? MCC पास हुन्छ मूजि तेसैको लागि शेर बहादुर आको हो, येसैमा तिमीहरुको भलाई छ । MCC पास त TPS पास नत्र खैरात छैन ।

logankobaje · Aug 27, 2021 12:44 PM

Only recently Nepalese industrialists have started getting into big hydro electric projects. The problem with Nepal is that the politicians are for sale and they will sell themselves to the highest bidder. MCC corporation only goes to countries where they have found some natural resources that they can extract and profit from. They are fully connected to the top US powers that is why they supply their own mercenaries and army to protect their business. This is one of their conditions which is to have their army present to guard their area. They are planning to set base and have the base be like Area 51 where noone else can go inside not even top Nepalese beaurocrats. Their condition is that they need to be above the law.  Who among you is so desperate to give anyone that kind of supremacy and power??  It may provide temporary relief due to some jobs created but in the long run, MCC will get out of Nepal after they have extracted all the natural resources they were after. If Nepal spends some time and resource right now, the whole of Nepal could benefit from it instead of MCC investors. It took them 20 years go get out of Afganistan after it was not profitable anymore. They had the whole country go through civil war in order to make profit. You do not want to expose Nepal to their greed. Last edited: 27-Aug-21 01:39 PM

independent · Aug 27, 2021 1:34 PM

I would still think that working for a forgein company in your native country is better than working for forgein companies in forgein countries. What do you think? Last edited: 27-Aug-21 01:47 PM

harkhe7 · Aug 27, 2021 1:47 PM

Harke .. how long do you think it would take Amazon Google , Facebook to expand its offices in a-country like Nepal later in future ?? Any idea maaaayeeeeett

Tesla guy · Aug 27, 2021 2:35 PM

harke it's not the question of working for foreign companies. it's the question of your country losing it's power in own country. How would you feel about renting your house to foreigners in the condition that you cannot have any say about what they do in your house? They could murder anyone in your own house and get away with it.

independent · Aug 27, 2021 2:56 PM

@teslaguy for amazon it could take 5 more years to expand in Nepal. First, there needs to be adequate infrastructure (roads and energy) in place. And, the business friendly laws. For google and Facebook, they can operate from anywhere as long as there is a good internet connectivity. @Independent There needs to be a law and order. I know few US officers were prosecuted for war crimes in Afghanistan. And, I don't think that the MCC corporation would be able to control Nepal for only giving 500 million dollars. There are 30 millions population. That is only 16 dollars per person. 🤓

harkhe7 · Aug 27, 2021 5:01 PM

Harke one of the demands of mcc is that they are going to be above the law in their business venues. Noone should be above the law no matter how much money they have. Only people who will accept such terms are people with slave mentality.

independent · Aug 27, 2021 9:15 PM

Independent who isn't a slave? We, all, are slaves. We need to work for survival. Even Jeff Bezos works. He runs the Amazon. Thats why I would think that it is better off to be slaves with cars than slaves with "खालि खुट्टा" as long as we can have our dignity intact. Wouldn't you think so? Would you have come to the US if you had a good paying job in Nepal? Last edited: 27-Aug-21 10:35 PM

harkhe7 · Aug 27, 2021 10:30 PM

@Independent as i heard major American agency and INGO working in Nepal bribes the politician to recives donation on behalf of Nepali citizen.

xkavrepalanchok · Aug 27, 2021 10:59 PM

It’s one thing to rent out your room with pride as its your property. But its slave mentality to be ok with your renters fking your sister and mother just because they give more rent. I rest my case.

independent · Aug 28, 2021 2:50 AM

It is pride to get molested/raped by Arabs when working in the Gulf countries. And, I guess that it is also pride to suck up to Indians for jobs in the US. F*king get out of the false narrative in your head and look at the realities on the ground. I also rest my case.

harkhe7 · Aug 28, 2021 8:29 AM

Who in their right mind would go work at a place where they would be molested? If you look into these cases they are always the case where the workers are molested against their will. So you are saying it's okay to be molested if you are getting your wage? Maybe if you are a prostitute it's okay to be sexually enacted upon for payment but not someone who is not going as a sex worker. Allowing foreign companies to be above the law when all your own citizens are under the law is just plain stupidity and reeks of slave mentality. It just shows that the decision makers have been compromised to not think of the country first. जननी जन्मभूमिश्च स्वर्गादपि गरीयसी || I just don't get the defeatist mentality of people thesedays? Seems like they would sell their own sisters into flesh trade for their personal benefit.

independent · Aug 28, 2021 8:48 AM

Exactly nobody would, but those cases are happening, aren't they? Nepali दलाल also traffic Nepali women into India. Why do you think that they were able to do it? Why do you think that we are in the US? The only reason is lack of employment in Nepal. The sex workers in the US have way better life than the sex workers in Mumbai or Kathmandu. Open your eyes. It is more than the MCC. Please don't give me crap about thinking about country living in the US. Are you a US citizen? Last edited: 28-Aug-21 11:31 AM

harkhe7 · Aug 28, 2021 11:31 AM

Just because there are people who traffic women you think it’s ok to do that yourself? What kind of pathetic logic or mentality is that? Maybe you were born in some remote village without much resources and you got exposed to some money and lifestyle now so you think money is everything. I am sorry to say you did not have a good upbringing to have respect towards your family  and motherland. Last edited: 28-Aug-21 02:58 PM

independent · Aug 28, 2021 2:35 PM

First answer my question, are you a US citizen?

harkhe7 · Aug 28, 2021 3:25 PM

What does being a US citizen have to do with having enough common sense to respect the sovereignty of one’s own country?? If you must know, no I am not US citizen, I am in college right now.

independent · Aug 28, 2021 3:51 PM

Lol. Nepali haru jhagada garchan for MCC. Lwange ho, MCC lai change garera pass gare bhai halo ne. Nepal magna gako ho. With different government in different time period. Beggars cannot be chooser. If you are against MCC, kick out UML, Congress from the government. Bhot dine bela ma sabai jana chatdai jancha neta haru lai. Aile aayera yeso r uso. Jasto janta usto neta. Afno manche le ghus khayera kamako paisa chai kamako, aru kasaile chai kamako cha with same gali garo. I know for the fact that 99.99% of people who have earned money in Nepal without purkheuli are all corruption in different form.

GoneCrazy · Aug 28, 2021 5:17 PM

MCC pass garnu parcha bhanni laaj pacheka nakachara harulai tudhikhel ma rakhera udera ghumayera ek ek kick haanna man cha Tyo pani naak ko dhaadi bhachinay gari.....

Tesla guy · Aug 29, 2021 12:38 AM

@harkhe7 "It is pride to get molested/raped by Arabs when working in the Gulf countries. And, I guess that it is also pride to suck up to Indians for jobs in the US." How is it a pride to be raped and molested. I as a woman would be aghast if someone tried to do anything without my consent. I don't have a say on whether you want MCC in Nepal or not. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. But please stop saying that being molested is okay as long as you get paid. There's nothing above your dignity and pride. Also FYI, not all the sex workers in the US have better life. A lot of them are forced into it and beaten by their pimps if they don't make enough money. I hope you know a lot of girls are kidnapped and forced into sex trafficking.

wegalzrock · Aug 29, 2021 7:22 AM

@wegalzrock I didn't mean to say that it is okay to get raped/molested. My apologies if it came out that way. I meant to say that we have to improve the living conditions in Nepal for everyone. Just false pride is not helping anyone of us. @independent ok, then in that case your say matters about MCC. I hope that you're planning to go back to Nepal after study to help develop. Thanks for your time. Last edited: 29-Aug-21 10:01 AM

harkhe7 · Aug 29, 2021 10:00 AM

I know quite a few US citizen Nepalis who also do not support MCC. Their parents, their families are living in Nepal, they do care about what happens in Nepal. It's definitely not a good idea to allow a foreign corporation to be above the law. So you did not answer my implied question. "Maybe you were born in some remote village without much resources and you got exposed to some money and lifestyle now so you think money is everything. I am sorry to say you did not have a good upbringing to have respect towards your family and motherland." Is that true?

independent · Aug 29, 2021 11:30 AM

@Harke7, you disgust me. You're a slave who values everything in life in monetary basis. You know that you can sell your mom to a brothel for few hundred of dollars. Would you do that? May be you would; who knows? But the idea of being poor but being independent to earn his/her own bread is way noble than being a salve in a golden cage being fed bread by the master.

hurray · Aug 29, 2021 2:31 PM

@ Independent I was born in a village (3 hours walk from the road at that time) to a very good and kind family. However, I was raised in Kathmandu. My upbringing was very good. Thanks for your concern. @Hurray Money is not everything, but it is something. Otherwise, nobody would have left their villages. In today's economy you need some money for survival, you know. BTW there are male sex workers too now a days.  Last edited: 29-Aug-21 06:27 PM

harkhe7 · Aug 29, 2021 6:14 PM

Harkey I am sorry that you grew up to have such a pathetic mentality. I was right that you came from village. When people from less resource have access to a bit more resource than they ever imagined, then they tend to start having the kind of attitude like you. Like the saying napaaune le kera payo bokrai suddha khayo. Last edited: 29-Aug-21 06:59 PM

independent · Aug 29, 2021 6:59 PM

All we are cmenting on MCC, but none has detail knowledge including me , so I am little curious about to know that how long the project will last in nepal? is US arm force will be in nepal under MCC ? Is MCC project will be above the constitution of nepal ? It sounds like something is behind this rumer that MCC will take over nepal. I think ( just thinking of possiblities, nothing ealse ) the project is not for 100 , 50 or even 25 years and once the project is over all the people connected to that have to leave, No where is mentioned that MCC will be above the all laws of nepal except its construction of roads , transmission lines,contracts and accountig/audeting etc. So it could be just for proper utilization of money and to prevent the possible missuse by currupt nepali political leaders as happend to past foreign aids. If all the project mention under MCC compleets with out missuse of single rupise, think about the future picture of Nepal. And even it is far better to be with us than always humilating by Indians,

tallagheremaila · Aug 29, 2021 7:33 PM

Kehi mahina pahila ma Nepal huda thau thau ma farak farak van ma mike bata MCC ko birodh ma prachar prasaar gardai gako dekhtey. And I used to think who they are funded and sponsored by? Also, people's voice hardly matters in Nepal. The politician will sooner or later approve MCC and I am personally in favor of it slightly. Last edited: 29-Aug-21 09:22 PM

himalphedi · Aug 29, 2021 9:16 PM

Talla ghare maila: little knowledge is dangerous

Tesla guy · Aug 29, 2021 9:49 PM

यो मुला दासी मानसिकता भएको हर्के लाई के सारो भाउ दिएको हो साथीहरु, सुँगुर लाइ स्वोर्ग जान चाहान्छास भनेर सोध्दा,, त्यहाँ गु खान पाउछ कि पाउदैन भनेर प्रश्न गर्थ्यो रे,, त्यस्तै जस्तो यो मुला हर्के USA मा आएर साला कुन चाहि धोतीको गाँड चोधाई गर्दै छ होला मुजी त्यहि भएर आफ्नो देश को बारेमा जे पायो त्यहि बोल्दै छ,,, यो मुजी ले पैसा पायो भने छाक मा नि थोकाउछ होला ,,, थुक्क साला दुखि आत्मा ,,

Eklopan · Aug 29, 2021 11:07 PM

@Eklopan you are such a smart guy. Why don't you tell us why did you come to the US? And, what do you do here, huh?

harkhe7 · Aug 30, 2021 8:19 AM

Harke it's very simple. Most people go to other countries to enjoy kera. But people like you want to swallow the whole kera including bokra. No class, no taste just greed and cheap mentality.

independent · Aug 30, 2021 9:07 AM

@harkhe7 I am quite impressed that you are acting like a grown up and not saying anything as bad to others. @independent You are provoking somebody just because he has his own opinion about something that doesn't align with yours. I am not gonna call you dumb just because you are anti vax and I believe in vaccination. Also what's wrong with being born in remote village? Being a villager is not a bad thing. Baru unproductive hunu is bad. Why don't you do something productive or come with ideas on how to make Nepal better with or without foreign aid. Guys esto esto kura ma time waste garera kri hune wala chaina. It's not that the government officials will ask us if we want MCC in Nepal or not. Baru jau tyo blind date bhanne show hera. Full on time pass huncha. Hami k jhagada garirako. Baru let's just first learn how to unite baru. Last edited: 30-Aug-21 07:12 PM

wegalzrock · Aug 30, 2021 12:25 PM

Wegalzrock I never said anything is wrong with being born in village. I have huge respect for my friends and people who inspite of being born with less resources in villages have progressed on to become top scientist, industrialists and what not. What is wrong is when someone acts like kera napaune le kera payo , bokrai sita khayo. You saw how this guy was saying how getting raped is justified if they get enough money. I think any thinking person with some self respect would be against something like that. As far as you calling me anti vax that's a different conversation and you can join me in the other thread where superior experts like nobel prize winners have expressed their concerns regarding the covid vaccines. https://sajha.com/sajha/html/i... Quite a few of these experts actually invented some vaccines! Now that they are expressing concerns on this particular vaccine, you would have the nerve to call them anti vaccine? LOL. I am the same way. I have had all the other vaccines till date. This is the only vaccine that I am concerned about due to the anomalities and questionable marketing they are doing. Refer back to the thread https://sajha.com/sajha/html/i... Janani janmabhumischa swargadapi gariyeshi

independent · Aug 30, 2021 12:41 PM

@wegalzrock Thank you. You actually rock. Its good to finally have someone sensible here on this thread. @Independent I never said that a rape is justified in any circumstances. I said that the US prosecuted its own soldiers for war crimes. Few officers from the Afghanistan war were prosecuted for war crimes. The US values the rule of law above anything. The whole existence of the US as a country is based on the constitution and the rule of law. No need to get too personal. You're free to have your opinion as wegalzrock said.

harkhe7 · Aug 30, 2021 3:32 PM

Harke you said it's normal that people get raped trying to make money in arab countries. You sound naive in saying that the US values the rule of law above everything. US is the most capitalistic country in the world where capital makes the statement. Over one million people died in Iraq because the US went to war with a lie saying Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Where is the rule of law for the death of one million people most of whom were innocent. You are too naive to continue having a discussion with you. Feel free to live in your own bubble which is pathetic by the way.

independent · Aug 30, 2021 4:56 PM

And you never said rape is justified under any circumstances? Well you can't even lie with a straight face. You are a sick person. You need to thank me for trying to have a decent conversation with you.

independent · Aug 30, 2021 5:01 PM

I see you didn't understand my point. I was being sarcastic. I was making a point that lakhs of Nepali go to Arab countries for work. If you were worried about Americans raping Nepali women, aren't you worried about Arabs?

harkhe7 · Aug 30, 2021 6:04 PM

I am not not worried about Americans raping or anything like that. I am just not in favor of anyone being above the law.

independent · Aug 30, 2021 6:57 PM

Tesla guyi. I 100% agree with you but still I dont get the clear answer (details of Mcc) from bigknowladge either and read my posting again, I have mentioned it clearly that just thinging nothing ealse. thanks

tallagheremaila · Aug 30, 2021 8:22 PM

This is why MCC wants to get full access to Nepal.  Last edited: 05-Sep-21 08:21 AM

independent · Sep 5, 2021 8:21 AM

The way these corporations like MCC works is they find natural resources in a country which is not tech savvy to extract or use these priceless resources. They bribe the politicians like few hundred thousand dollars to make out with trillions of dollars in value. By the time the host country has any of their own technological know-how to be able to use their own resources, it’s all gone.

independent · Sep 6, 2021 9:16 AM

So I don’t agree with Independent. I think MCC will be good for Nepal. Of course China is trying to undermine it, it is just to increase its influence in Nepal. So we can have our differences and in the heat of the debate things get said and arguments get sour. But to me, debates aside, the comment by Harke clearly crosses the line “It is pride to get molested/raped by Arabs when working in the gulf countries” I see he conveniently removed it from his original post and he is trying to say he is being sarcastic. I don’t buy that. And wegirlsrock, being a girl yourself, how can you support him when his comments should make your skin crawl? I am a guy and I find that type of comment pretty disgusting, to put it mildly.

chicagoan · Sep 6, 2021 10:52 AM

Chicagoan you may see short term benefit but in long term Nepal will lose big time. All those radioactive waste etc that will mess with people's health. MCC does not have to worry about safe disposal or anything because they will be long gone halfway around the world. Wegalzrock you should be more careful of people like harke. Who try to sweet talk you after accidentally showing who they really are. Be a better judge of character otherwise you will get hurt in life. Don't let people fool you so easily

independent · Sep 6, 2021 11:34 AM

There is a saying in Nepali "जान्नेलाइ सृखन्ड, न जान्नेलाइ खुर्पाको बिड " | For Nepal, Uranium is खुर्पाको बिड | Nepal can make money by selling it. Arab countries got rich by selling oil. What would the Arab countries do with the oil without the American corporation? Nothing, they didn't have any value for it. @chicagoan I again reiterate that it was a sarcasm to make a point. My intention wasn't to offend anyone especially women. I really hope that people understood my message. And, I really think wegalzrock is a smart girl and knows how to judge a character. For the matter, I think everyone here in sajha are smart people and know how to look out for their self interest.

harkhe7 · Sep 6, 2021 8:30 PM

I don’t think anyone believes your sarcasm theory especially after you reiterated it several times unsarcastically. You value money more than anything and we get it. Peace be with you.

independent · Sep 6, 2021 9:32 PM

People believe me, trust me. You are a fierce argumenter. I give you that. Peace be with you too. You know who used to say "Greed is good" in the 70s. Donald Trump, and he became president.

harkhe7 · Sep 6, 2021 10:11 PM

And wegirlsrock, being a girl yourself, how can you support him when his comments should make your skin crawl? @chicagoan first of all did you even read how I responded to the being raped by Arabs statement? If you didn't get a chance to read my response, I've pasted it in here. "How is it a pride to be raped and molested. I as a woman would be aghast if someone tried to do anything without my consent. I don't have a say on whether you want MCC in Nepal or not. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. But please stop saying that being molested is okay as long as you get paid. There's nothing above your dignity and pride. Also FYI, not all the sex workers in the US have better life. A lot of them are forced into it and beaten by their pimps if they don't make enough money. I hope you know a lot of girls are kidnapped and forced into sex trafficking." All I said was I was impressed by how he wasn't bad mouthing anybody by saying bad things about their upbringing. He wasn't cursing anybody. Wegalzrock you should be more careful of people like harke. Who try to sweet talk you after accidentally showing who they really are. Be a better judge of character otherwise you will get hurt in life. Don't let people fool you so easily  @independent i really appreciate you being concerned about me. I know people who act so nice and sabotage others on their back. Trust me I am not that naive. I don't wish bad upon anybody. But I wasn't born yesterday. I now know how people are and how to beat them on their own games. But thank you for reminding me of how people can be. Last edited: 07-Sep-21 09:40 AM

wegalzrock · Sep 6, 2021 10:41 PM