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Nas · Jun 21, 2016 4:59 PM

Good post Shiva_linga. But Newars, at least high casts, are more hindu than bahuns that have khas root. But most of upadhyaya bahuns in nepal have kanyakubja, non-khas, origin. Else, you are spot on.

seeker77 · Jun 21, 2016 5:14 PM

@seeker, yes high caste newars(joshis,rajopadhyas,pradhan etc) are more hinduised since they are ethnically mixed with lichhivis and mallas and have been hinduised longer than the khas people.newar were hinduised since the 5th century AD or so, whereas the first manuscripts of khas from 12th century show they were still buddhist and shamanist(masto worshippers). i also believe upadhyayas have non-khas origin as i mentioned earlier.these north indian brahmins brought the more orthodox brahmanical hinduism to our hills and hinuised the khas and magar in western hills. @nas,vedas were pre -hindu documents of aryans . upanishads were the intepretation but these scripts were not originally written/read by native nepalis.even the valley kings who were the first hindus of nepali hills revered tantric,shaivaite and shakta religious books more than brahmanical books.i am not saying vedas and upanishads being only brahmans book, vedas were documented a lot later by brahmins though the source is basically social wisdom ,prayers and migration story. upanishads are a later creation from mostly north west indian brahmins.they are the property of whole humanity but are not innately nepali.

shiva_linga · Jun 21, 2016 5:52 PM

ujl · Jun 21, 2016 6:08 PM

@ ujl, the above classification makes no sense. the british indologists of 19th century created this to include all the southasian native belief system existing at that time. prior to that,and better said prior to shankaracharya restoration of hinduism ,these systems were separate religions in their own place.so basically brahmanism,shaktism,shaivism and other religions were separate in what they believed but the rituals and mythology became more and more entangled due to mixture with neighbouring cultures.

shiva_linga · Jun 24, 2016 9:52 AM

@ ujl, we shouldnt compare our mix of sanatan traditions and animistic traditions to orthodox brahmanism devised post 8th century by adi shankara. with we i mean all nepali except pahadi and terai brahmins.that is still an overwhelming majority of nepalis.

shiva_linga · Jun 29, 2016 6:29 AM