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Rajesh BP · Aug 15, 2015 9:11 PM

@microbiology, Then please do enlighten me what is Indigenous then? This is the lame definition of "Indigenous Peoples" of Nepal - • First settlers prior to the formation of Gorkha and Nepal state. • Dominated group and no representation in state organs • Not included in the Hindu caste system. • Own language, culture and religion different from the rulers. Note: Brahmins, Chhettris and Madeshi Brahmins are not Indigenous people of Nepal. So this obtuse definition is inherently meant to exclude Bahun-Chhetris and put everyone else on the other side. According to that definition, Madhesi Brahmins are not indigenous, but what about non-Brahmin Madhesi castes like Kayastha or Rajput or Rauniyar or Kalwar? Do they become Indigenous? Also, Newar community is not a single ethnic group like Magar, Gurung, Tamang, Rai, Limbu, Sherpa, etc. How are Newars treated a ONE single ethnic/caste group? Plus, Newars fall under Hindu caste system as they have castes ranging from Brahmins down to 'Untouchables'. Also, in what world do you live in when you say Newars are "dominated group and no representation in state organs". Newars are among the highest income earners of the country, their culture is basically Nepal's culture, their tradition is basically Nepal's tradition and festivals like Dashain, Deepawali, etc. I don't know the situation now but their share even till 2009 was x3 their population share in civil service and government functions. They own the private and business sectors. Their yearly UN HDI value is among the highest of any group. So where is the domination?? Also the fact that many Newar castes themselves (especially Brahmans, Shresthas, Kasai, Dhobis, etc.) have never registered to be under Indigenous groups as they have written genealogies and traditions and their physical phenotypes that are evidences enough to show you that they migrated in the recent past - thus not making them true Adivasis of the region. So how are they indigenous again?? Why is the definition based on totally unscientific grounds just meant to exclude Bahun/Chetris??

Rajesh BP · Aug 15, 2015 9:11 PM

Pahad ma n newar rai limbu,rai sabai lai afno rajya chayekai chha. Kun kun jaati lai ani madhesi lai rajya chayeko chha sabai lai rajya diye bhaihalyo ne ani pachi india ley sabai desh nai khaidincha tespachi tension nai saaf. Sometimes I feel we bahun chhetris are taking too much headache in this issue.

200times · Aug 15, 2015 10:16 PM

This is the kind of discussion that is utterly unnecessary and incites riots and unwarranted war. Shame on you to start this thread.

BadhiJanne · Aug 15, 2015 10:18 PM

how you going to develop Nepal like this?

sweesher · Aug 15, 2015 10:31 PM

Please be careful of people like NAS. All his thread is nothing but hatred towards someone (religion/caste) or about sex. So careful of what you believe from this guy. This was unnecessary, shame on you.

Vhootee · Aug 15, 2015 11:08 PM

बई द वे: छेत्री बाहुन को बुडी भर्सेस धोति को लौरो

DHOTI · Aug 15, 2015 11:59 PM

मेरो यो धागोको अभिप्राय कुनै जात ठुलो वा सानो देखाउनु थिएँन ! तर यो धागोले अर्कै मोड लिन पुगेछ ! नजानी नजानी कसैको मन दुखाउन पुगेछु भने म येही पोस्टबाट क्षमा माग्दछु र मेरो यो गल्तिलाइ नासमझ भुल मानि माफी गरिदिन हुन् बिनम्र अनुरोध गर्दछु ! अन्तमा मलाई सबै नेपाली दाजु भाइ दिदि बहिनि प्यारा छन् ! म जात पातमा बिस्वास राख्ने मान्छे पनि होइन ! मैले जीवनमा बाहुनी देखि जनजाति सबै स्त्रीहरुलाइ प्रेम गर्ने मौका पाएको छु ! तेसैले मलाई बाहुनी पनि प्यारी छे, जनजातीनि प्यारी छे ! जय नेपाल ! जय नेपाली !

Nas · Aug 16, 2015 1:00 PM

You must be a kharpan jyapu trying to make a beef among Mongolians and Bahuns

murkhamailo · Aug 16, 2015 7:13 PM

Nas · Aug 16, 2015 7:43 PM