I understand your frustation, but look at it in another way - there is no short cut in life. Looking at how much money they make is only going to fuel your frustation. So do not put your feet in their shoes - it will not fit - making money is only one fraction of this whole life....there are much more in life where you may be ahead of them. If you ask them I am pretty sure they want something that you have....only human nature. True story - I have a millionaire buddy who wishes he had PhD because he always wanted it but could not - I have another friend he makes a decent $$ but has a broken family.....being content and not complaining helps a lot. Now you are so close to getting it done - just get it done. It is very important to finish what you have started - this is the identity of a real person - trust me - you will be a front runner later in life. If you quit now - you will quit again because you will find something better. So its better for you to replan your PhD and take the problem and turn it into a passion. Come on man - there are people who will kill to be in your situation so embrace it and move forward with it. Also if you find another hobby (photography, sports, music lesson) of sort that will ease your frustation. I was in a similar situation for a long time - wanted to quit my studies and jump in the same boat as others but my hunch told me to continue a path that I was in - looking back perhaps this path has been the best for me - and I tell this to others. Imagine people callin you "hey Doc" - that will be a nice feeling to have.....not everyone gets that honor - at that point you'll be glad that you've earned it man.......go for it man - DO NOT QUIT....... GET IT DONE.....make yourself proud. I hope I helped you here.

GoolayLEE · Oct 25, 2012 10:26 AM

नेपालीहरुको पी एच दि गर्ने पनि अनेक कारण हुने रैछ| दशैं पार्टीमा एक जना भलादमी भेटेको वहाको २ वोटा मास्टर्स अनि अहिले दोस्रो पी एच दि गर्दै रे| आफ्नो एस एल सी फेल भाको दिमाग अचम्म मान्दै थियो त्येत्तिकैमा अर्को भलादमीले मेरो कान मा आएर स्टाटस नमिलेर आजीवन कलेजमा बस्न सक्छ वहा भनेर भन्दा खेरि यो जिन्दगि मा के के मात्र देख्नु सुन्नु पर्ने हो जस्तो पो लाग्यो   हजुरहरुलाई अग्रिम बधाई छ

bokaman · Oct 25, 2012 10:34 AM

Compare yourself to the ones in worse situations. Compare yourself to the under-priviledged ones back home, the underpaid Nepali workers in the middle-east. When you compare yourself to the ones who're in seemingly better positions than yourself, you're likely to get frustrated.  If you can, stop comparing. Period. 

riddle · Oct 25, 2012 10:36 AM

slc pass nagarne haru nai thula thula businessman bhayera sansar hakeka chan, bokaman ji chahi ke gardaini?

jhapaliketo · Oct 25, 2012 10:57 AM

This is the scenario many Phds go through during their time. However, one should also look at this with a pragmatic approach. Ask yourself: Why are you doing Ph.D.? Was it because you were passionate about Biological research? Or was it you thought you'd make more money? or as someone mentioned above, you want to hear people call you HEY DOC? haha! If you're really passionate about research, what you're experiencing is not uncommon. When things start to work out, you'll feel your positive vibes come in. It's only a matter of time, but you'll finish it! Perhaps you'll continue on this path of scientific discovery and be very happy. However, if you think you'll make more money after Ph.D, I will guarantee you, you'll be much more frustrated than you're now. Post doc doesn't pay much and for industry, Ph.D doesn't count as research (so you'll prolly be getting paid less than people with lower qualifications)Not to mention the limitation that comes with your visa status. And the last person you should be getting advice on this matter would be your PI and colleagues in the field (They all have this myopic vision on only how their research will change this world) Once you've figured out the above two, you can make a short term plan. Have an exit strategy if you're leaving, if you're close to graduating, finish it but while you're finishing, make contacts and network with people in the field and industry, that you'll eventually want to go upon. YOu say you're in your third year, its about time to start networking anyways! I know lot of us get into Ph.D without really understanding what the Ph.D entails. its not your fault :). One can't understand its nuances till you get into it.Good luck!

snurp · Oct 25, 2012 11:03 AM

guy_tensed: If your main goal was to make money then YES you have chosed the wrong path and you're doomed ! You don't do PhD thinking that you'll make tons of money. You do PhD if you have a passion for something. These days there are many Nepali students who enroll in PhD program right after Undergraduate just to maintain status for a longer period of time. If you're really interested in doing some research and love working in labs then PhD is the right thing to do. I don't really care whether you're called "Doctors" or not...Its not a big deal...Maybe if it was years ago you'd have got lots of respect. Medical doctors used to get lots of repect few years ago until China/Bangaladesh/Phillipines produced enromous amount of Nepali doctors who had only passmarks in SLC and I.SC. So, there are two types of people (one: really brilliant and interested, two: just to get the fame and not  interested) I assume you're one of those who's not really interested and want to make money. My suggestion: Quit the program, enroll in some IT coursework , get some training and start making 100K !

US Returnee · Oct 25, 2012 11:06 AM

Face the Reality: Most Scientists or Researchers don't even have an office in the company when they land a job ! All they'll get is a Bench and some Lab. Do you like it ? Yes---> you're good doing PhD. No ? ---> Quit the program and move on.

US Returnee · Oct 25, 2012 11:10 AM

Very good suggestions/advice from US_returnee. PhD or Not PhD: I think it is one of the easiest question.

nepalilaure · Oct 25, 2012 11:15 AM

Harsh Yet Realistic Opinion by US Returnee . Few days ago, i was doing some analysis for one of the Researcher and he came to me and said, "I shouldn't have studied Biology" and he asked me some "SAS Programming Books" (I am in the field of SAS !)

Arrogant · Oct 25, 2012 11:19 AM

the only I can say is THE GRASS IS GRENNER ON THE OTHER SIDE. there is no shoes like one size fits all, so wht one is good at wont be good at all to others. some ppl want have clear mind and will be great in doing phd while others dont know anything might understands more by working and they can be smart ass after few yrs. so I will say is one size doesnt fits all.

sakha · Oct 25, 2012 11:30 AM

I agree with US_returnee. And I am also in the same dilemma, PhD or not PhD, eventhough I have not started it yet. But I am gonna take some time before doing or not doing it. 

365 · Oct 25, 2012 12:03 PM

guy_tensed, As you are working on insects, think about them once. Ant, spider and any other insects. They are all struggling for survival. Think how beautiful and amazing the nature is. How hard is to knit that web for a spider. You are in the middle phase now like a Caterpillar. Wait for the day to come when you will become a beautiful and colorful butterfly and fly under the blue sky. ONLY waiting does not work here. You need to survive that phase of CHANGING. The day will come and you will realize it was worth doing it! As GoolayLEE mentioned, "find another hobby (photography, sports, music lesson) of sort that will ease your frustration". Well, I

daum · Oct 25, 2012 12:09 PM

.....I just bought a camera yesterday to capture some beautiful moments this winter (I am in the same boat as you are) Good Luck!

daum · Oct 25, 2012 12:11 PM

खुट्टा भए सम्म जति पनि जुत्ता हुन्छ.

nagarik1 · Oct 25, 2012 12:17 PM

 not me :) 

baaramaase · Oct 25, 2012 12:18 PM

I am sure most of you PhD students know it, but phdcomics.com has great comics giving you the feeling..oh not only me this happens to everybody. I think this is true for most to-be-docs and is the matter of magnitude and time. and yes, if your project is going wel, you will feel a lot better and if project goes bad, exactly same feeling. But best thing we can do is I guess, enjoy what you are doing and make some outside hobby, like sports, music. We did not do our PhD to make money, a decent money will follow anyway later. Think of long term..may be for betterment of human life overall.

shivanagar · Oct 25, 2012 12:27 PM

frustration whatttttttttttttttttt just imagine a nepalese in nepal, they are dying to just step here all guruba from pure science , like physics, chemistry, biology, literature, social science spent their rest life here just by studying, just becoming student so that they can hv better pay than in nepal (assuming they make 20-25 grand at the most), over here $15-2000 per month and u say u r frustrated to spent 2 more yrs bro there is a light out of tunnel, rethink just indulge in extra activities like voluntering in community , sports so that u can divert ur ass off, :) good luck in the mean time

randoms · Oct 25, 2012 12:27 PM

I have a buddy in Kathmandu who is MD in Pediatrics, a medical doctor in his early 30s. He makes around 80 thousands a months- no hectic schedule, and is based in Kathmandu. If he is willing to go outside KTM, he can make more. He is talented and dedicated, i can see a very bright future for him. His GUNASO, he has not been able to make as much as his banker buddies who were his classmates during his +2/ISc days, were way below him interms of academic standing and did their MBA from India. They make as much as 2 lakhs a month. So, manche ko jaat lai jati bhayepani pugdaina paisa le. If you are doing what you like and living a descent life, you should be happy.

nepalilaure · Oct 25, 2012 12:52 PM

 Education can not compare to other topics.education is education.no doubt.but if you compare with money,its a bad idea.Don't worry brother ,you chose 1000% right path.and good luck.our wishes always with you brother.

samvoo · Oct 25, 2012 1:25 PM

In terms of financial payoff PHD is not the wisest choice, UNLESS you can invent something and market it. Faculty postions pay ok money and the workload is very light, but again the money is not there and tenured postions are very hard to come by. The other bad thing is that with a PHD your job options shrink dramatically and your first job will probably be your only job. Contrary to popular belief PhD's aren't more learned than non-PhD's. Non-PhDs are a lot more versed in emerging technologies and world affairs.

hakim_saab · Oct 25, 2012 1:35 PM

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country_boy · Oct 25, 2012 1:48 PM

 Guy_tensed, I can understand your frustration. I suggest you to hang on there, your time will come. As you commented that your buddies are making good money after bachelors and masters, ask them once, how much they  were able to save till now. Your opinion on it  might change. And also we will have job after you get your Phd. You might not have gross income as much compared to people in IT field but you will have stable life. If you look at it in one way, most people won't be rich working under somebody. Anybody making $60,000 to $100,000 will not have much difference in take home money after taxes and deduction. More you make more you pay. Personally, I suggest people to have 40 hours a week job that requires less to none travelling, which will give opportunities to explore side businesses and think about other investment to add 2nd form of revenue, which is taxed less than your wages, which is essential to have secure feeling about your finances. And also to have Dr. in your ID gives you good feeling and respect...... 

Nepal-hamro · Oct 25, 2012 1:53 PM

America is diff then Nepal. Here to be successful u gotta be smart. Smart means u gotta know the flow and "flow with wind". See what the demand is. I finished my Master and started working. I am currently holding Assistant Manager position making 125K without bonus. Have almost everything, GC, new car for both my wife and me, newly build house etc. Most of my collegue are doing Post Doc ($40K/annum) and some still waiting for the job (so haven't finished study yet). I saw some Nepalese in their 35/40s and still doing phd with kids going middle/high school. I really don't know what to tell them. When they finish study they will be 40/45 and for post docs 45/50s and even after that they don't know they will get job or not. I know money is not everything but for sure it is something which we needs for our day to day activities. If someone is doing phd in hot field then he should continue but if someone doing just for sake to keep Dr. then he/should think seriously before wasting time further.

Free H1B · Oct 25, 2012 10:02 PM

Truly speaking in this job market Degree doesn't count that much. I don't know much about other field but in IT field, whether you have bachelor degree or master degree or PHD or post doc, it simply doesn't matter. It all depends on your talent, If you do good programming and have good communication skill you can easily target for high pay , if not nobody looks your resume or what is your degree. Actually recruiters simply don't care what education level you have or your GPA. They just look for experience and your coding skill. Thats all. You should pursue PHD only if you really want do some research and you are really passionate about it. If you are doing PHD only thinking that you will get better pay then you can stop day dreaming. Reality is a bachelor degree+2 years of real experience can easily beat you in this competitive job market. There is only 3 Es that counts in today's job market that is "EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCE & EXPERIENCE". That's all.

sajhamitra · Oct 25, 2012 11:28 PM

Moro sathi kata bichhama yesto kura garya....swasni bihe gareko tin barsa ma I took a wrong path bhanna milchha?PHD is your wife...have fun with it. ....... Only meant in a comical way...

sanju.baba · Oct 26, 2012 7:52 AM

 if this helps you, i am in my 7th yr and still nowhere o graduation. but i still love it.  so i have friends (computer graduate) work in big places and earn over 6 figures. if you have such friends go live with them for a week and you will appreciate your degree. trust me. one thing i have learnt over the years is that phd is not a degree, its you own ability to make your self better with things. i have seen people who worked just to get a degree and trust me those phd graduate will be get stucked in post doc jobs.  my suggestion is you realize that you have an opportunity to learn. once you get into postdoc job then there no more learning. you will loads of expectations and if you cannot fulfil the expectations then you are stucked. no papers no way out. so think about how you can better with science and not worry about how long will it take.  my story, i came here from nepal. went thru lot of shit as well as best things happened. so i am living with phd.

eternalsunshine · Oct 26, 2012 8:53 AM

@ eternalsunshine Please DO NOT take my comments in an offensive way. I am only trying to give you a contructive suggestion. I don't know how your PhD is going on but you seriously need to work on your english. There are way too many mistakes in your written english which cannot be expected from a Phd candidate at US University.

True Nepali · Oct 26, 2012 10:18 AM

free h1b wrote " I finished my Master and started working. I am currently holding Assistant Manager position making 125K without bonus. Have almost everything, GC, new car for both my wife and me, newly build house etc." Sarai lov lagdo raicha mitra ko position. But, i would still not be happy with that if i were in your position. A vacation home in florida, europe trip for my parents, the list will go on.... BUT, i have seen very talented people happy with an academic position in Math and History, which are, may be the lowest paying departments. This math guy can easily make a 6 figure if he is ready to slightly divert his working field. Being a Physics, Math or even Biology or Chemistry Prof. is already something, something many people have high regards for. On top of that it pays you for a decent enough life. To the originator of this thread, if you are able to get into at least a 2nd tier reseach or teaching university with a tenure track (of course that will be after your post-doc) you are on a 9 month contract for 60-70 K, which is not bad, especially if you like teaching. Plus, you have enough time for some research as you will be teaching a max of 6 credits per semester). And i have seen Full Professor in biology making 110-125 K in so-so type of university. Well, that will take at least 10-12 years. And, if you have another person to earn (husband or wife) you will have enough savings for your kids' college fund and for annual vacations etc. Stability of job and sense of permanency interms of location is another very good thing if you are family person.

nepalilaure · Oct 26, 2012 10:47 AM

After reading so many comments and suggestions, I decide to jot down some words. First of all, you cant compare yourself with others in any anything. If the comparison gives you an inspiration and motivation to do something, it's okay otherwise dont do that. When you look somebody else's life, you are looking superficially. It dosnot tell you whole a lot about the person and his way of life style. If you whole motive is to make money and if you think that will make you happy, then PhD may not be a good option.  It's your life and your the one who decide what to do next. Even if you dont want to finish up your PhD, your in a far better position.  One last thing I would like to add is: you may not be making a lot of money in academia but dont forget you are getting paid for 8 months. Especially for immigrants like us, you can take a trip back home every other year if you want to. Also, if you planning to raise your kids, they will go to school for free which is a big savings for you. 

busenitz · Oct 26, 2012 11:08 AM

 What do you guys have to say about getting a PhD ( say in Biology) followed by an MBA? WIll that make the transition from academia to industry easier? What could be the pros and cons of doing that? Sparrow

jacksparrow · Oct 26, 2012 1:27 PM

@Jacksparrow Phd in Biology is the worst thing you can do in your life and i mean it ! It's a harsh comment but i have seen many people not happy with what they achieved. They have PhD in Biology but its worst. I would just get Masters degree in some other discipline and get an MBA (dual major). Like someone else said, in this country you don't have to be really smart: You've to go with the Flow ! One of my friend was doing PhD and after 2-3 years he went thru Masters route and got his Masters Degree and quit the program and now he has a really nice job (after some training-which we all do ) and he's really really happy with the job. He said he couldn't have go the same job if he had received PHD. 1 out of 10 PhD in Biology maybe considered Extraordinary and become real scientists. Few work in academia after several years of doing postdoc which i don't think is worth it.

US Returnee · Oct 26, 2012 1:57 PM

phd is phd see you will be called dr throughout the life, and that cannot be only reason to do phd, u must hv clear vision wht u will be doing after that, if its a professor then it can be rewaarding as u will have 3 months off after few yrs and to those who are making 125k , i have seen ppl making 13k a month and looking for very cheap store, try to live 5 dollars a day for whole family,their attitude is so so CHEAP, may be their 3rd not 2nd generation will try to live as true american not to mentioned mitt romney wife also calculate 5 dollars a day for each person for family members, she has 30 plus member in the family and shops in costco, tries to save a lot dspite her husband being multi millionaire.

kesar · Oct 26, 2012 5:07 PM

 I felt like writing comment again. I don't know where people got their idea from that person after PHD does not make good money. I know one dai who had his PHD in physics and was making 75k right after he finished his PHD. So it depends, where you get the job, what position, your luck and your people skill. And also I know one person in IT who make 18 an hour. You won't find a lot of nepalese people making 125k in this country until they are doctors or dentist. Our accounting professor who used to teach me while I was doing my MBA reveal his secret that he was making 120k (he used to drive 20 years old car, he knew how investment works). On top of it, like Kesar commented, you get 3 months off which will give plenty of time to explore other side businesses and investment and go different countries rather than being clock puncher all year round.  Guy_Tensed, you have all your life to make money. Please complete it whatever you have started since if you have invested all that time already. 

Nepal-hamro · Oct 26, 2012 5:48 PM

 Thank you all for your comments ! Let me be honest. I am not a very smart guy who can be a well known scientist even if i finish my PhD. Honestly, i wasn't even thinking i would do PhD few years ago. But when i finished my undergraduate, i saw few of my friends going for PhD then i also felt that i'll have to follow them. But now i realized that it was the wrong choice, especially with PhD in Life Science (Biology, Meat science, food science  or similar subjects). PhD in other fields such as Economics ,Finance is very good but not just Life science (in my opinion). Most people here say i'll get respect and all that but that's not just what i want. My goal is to make money. I have seen some folks doing PhD and they work as researcher or something and make very less money compared to some other folks in IT or technical field. Money does matter after all. Academia is not my interest. I do not want to be Professor. The more i indulge in this the more frustrated i become. Working as a post doc is just a joke, you get 45K salary after so many years of hard work. So, we're looking at about  12-15 years of study (5 years bachelor + 5 years phD + 2-3 years for Post Doc) and that's when you get frustrated when you don't have money or anything whereas your'e friends have a nice job, house etc and are able to take care of their family in Nepal. I think i'll get my Masters Degree and quit the program or may go different route such as getting a degree in Bioinformatics etc. Thanks.

guy_tensed · Oct 26, 2012 6:38 PM

 This is a sad thing that Most of us study science (Biology or Physics) back home and are inclined towards it even after we come to US. We just think it's so cool to study Science but infact it isn't unless you want to go study Medicine. Options after Bachelors in Life science is that either you work as a lab technician ($15/hr) or go to Medical School or last option is continue doing PhD (thinking one day you'll become scientist and your friends and family will be proud of you )...That aint right ! Sometimes your PhD in life science is not worth more than scooping an Animal Poop, washing test tubes or loading electrophoresis gel all day and you'll get about 50k for doing all that....This is the reality. Will you be happy with that ? Certainly not ! Those bagholders (PhD in biology or life science) will say anything now, they'll say oh how much i love science and all that BS..That's just a BS. Unless you're extraordinary, your road will be rough with PhD in Biology. Keep in mind, we're only talking about PhD in Biology or life science degrees. There are some fields where PhD is a must and is well rewarded such as PhD in Statistics, Biostatistics...People in this field good money and job is not as hectic as PhD in Biology. Decision is yours ! @Guy_tensed: I think you're better off terminating your program and going through different route!  If you want a PhD for the money, or you can't thik of anything better to do, then yes, its a stupid life choice.

Racheeta · Oct 26, 2012 6:56 PM

Hi, Y'all I am a happy PhD dropout after a semester :) I think I saved 5-10 years of doing nothing or re-researching somebody's research, staying broke and kissing professor's a$$. But still trying to find a way out of this f**kin'  F1 status.

mangale · Oct 27, 2012 11:54 AM

 Cheers..i am also in same boat, same compartment.

calendar · Nov 1, 2012 12:49 AM

Okay guys, I have decided to end my program and get Masters Degree and move on. Thank you.

guy_tensed · Nov 20, 2012 12:55 PM

good luck with your future endeavors.

dolphin · Nov 20, 2012 2:08 PM

It's really depends on what your preference is, whether money is your final goal or not and whether you consider quest for knowledge and recogniition as a scholar as important or not. Phd does not guarantee you a job or good pay, but at the same time the jobs in academia as much more relaxed compared to job with 40hrs a week deal, dealing with program deadlines, unreasonable managers.. And yes, if you to go other regular places to work after Phd, experience is all that matters, not so much the Phd, unless your Phd is directly your work related. Phd is a just a degree that one can get by working in ideal world of school for so many years, while others working outside do not get that degree but gets the experience that keeps the rest of the world rolling. But again without Phd moving ahead in academic career is out of question. There are researchers working for big name companies with millions of $$$ funding, who would make professors look like clowns. But then very often they do not get to direct credits of their research outside of their employing company, very often they are required to sign the agreement that employing/funding company will own the research/patent. In academic world it's different that you own the credit for your work and get recognitiion for it in the outside world very often. So it's really a matter of one's personal preference. There is no right or wrong way. You make a decision and stick to it. Rolling stones do not gather moss.

GwachAquarian · Nov 20, 2012 2:30 PM

eMero pani yeso upakar garidinu paryo sajha bashi harru....---> i am almost getting my undergrad degree with chem n bio (dual) major, have a decent GPA n GRE, has great research experience (poster/presentations/ couple of papers) and ready to apply for a Phd program in chem. I dont think i fit for academia and was hoping to enter into industry with a PhD degree. But, yeha kasai le master degree liyerau jau bhanne kura garchan! is Master degree worth it? 

cupchor · Nov 21, 2012 12:53 AM

people say all the time that PhD is not important; it's waste of time. masters would do just fine and what really matters is your talent and skills, not your degree. that might be true, but in other areas besides science. if you're looking for a research based career (academic or industrial), you'll be better off with a PhD. if you are in the engineering field or want a 9-5 job as a lab tech, go get a masters degree. i sense people in biomedical and chemistry related fields taking PhD as a burden. if you don't like it and you're doing it just because you think you have to, you probably chose a wrong career.

jantare1 · Nov 21, 2012 3:50 AM

PHD test your patience. Patience for experiment, result, life etc. You work on your own project developed by you. Masters work for others project and result produced by you will be others. No credit to you besides your salary.

mno · Nov 21, 2012 6:33 AM

PhD requires a lot of hard work, time, and patience.  I am not sure how many of all these PhD students actually have inner desire to pursue PhD and do research.  My understanding is, PhD is a must for someone who wish to pursue career in the field of natural sciences.  Also, having PhD does not make one smart.  Having PhD would definitely make one knowledgeable in his/her research field though.  If someone is looking for a job in an industry, PhD is not always easy to sell unless it is natural science field or some research and development industries.  People in the industry generally look for suitable candidates rather than technically best/sound candidates.  ALso, having a PhD does not mean he/she will be outstanding contributor in the industry.  Please note that industry are generally much faster paced environemnt compared to university's research labs.  Also, companies are more interested in producing results rather than the best posible results spending enormous man hours.  Generally PhD students and masters student take simialr courses during the school in the same field.  Only major difference is masters students geneally complete a project or thesis (generally not comprehensive)  while PhD students perform comprehensive research and publish a couple of papers.  To be honest, having four years of experience in real world probably teach you way more than spending four years doing one research in a lab.  Again, there are certain jobs which require PhD and it is worth getting PhD for such jobs.  Based on my experience PhD not necessarily makes one critical thinker, decision maker, or smart in his field.   Also, most of the jobs are 8-5, so there is nothing wrong in doing 8-5 jobs.  I would much rather take 8-5 job in the field my interest and plan my time rather than spending long hours doing research thinking I may get sometime off in summer.  Again, In addition, if someone is really interested in doing cutting edge research and end up in some four year college or end up becoming more of a teaching only professor, his/her career development may be not great.  However, in the industry, one has to brush up skills to be in demand which also helps in career development.

biology · Nov 21, 2012 12:00 PM

I always wanted to do PHD but now I think I should do MBA if I have a natural sc degree. Does anyone has expereince regarding bachelors degree and MBA coz my ccompnay is willing to pay for my education and preferably I will do MBA, but I have no idea, anyone with exp and in the same situation?

kittys · Nov 21, 2012 12:07 PM

 There was another thread similar to this so bumping ! i have decided to quit my phd as well 

guy_tensed · Dec 17, 2012 9:59 PM

त्यो धोतिहरुको नामको पछाडी त कति वोटा degree हुदो रहेछ कसरि मात्र पदछ होला Mr. Ravi Deshpandey ME, MBA, LLB, MLB, MS, MD

mno · Dec 18, 2012 8:33 AM

Everyone who goes through PhD has to overcome fraustration and depression. It applies to every genious or average people like you and me. My professor says that the PhD is all about learing to be able to  overcome these obstacles in our life by being focused, dedicated and acquiring a critical thinking. Persoanlly, I don't care whether I will be a great scientist  in my field or not. I think u should know what you want to do in ur future. Will this degree helps somehow or not? If it doesn't at all, then you are wasting your time writing a thread. You should quit it. Personally, sometime I feel like being a Monk but that is not the solution to what I want to be in my life. I can be a good teacher and I can sell myself with what I achieve. It's all about what is your exectation out of PhD. If you have high expectation about GC, house in US, BMW and bla bla bla. Those are all pushing you back. My roommate garduated and got a job that pays 90-100K per year( we had the same major). If I keep thinking about that and what I have at the moment, I will never be able to focus on what I want in my future. So, I keep pushing myself to the point I can take it. It's been 2 and half years already :) and as you are I don't know when I will graduate.  Last edited: 18-Dec-12 08:54 AM Last edited: 18-Dec-12 08:57 AM

babuyogi · Dec 18, 2012 8:50 AM