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| Username | Post |
| gal1 | Posted
on 26-Jun-03 11:02 PM
Can anyone pls help me how to get nepali typing in web ! thanking gal1 |
| Master_Of_One_Liners | Posted
on 26-Jun-03 11:27 PM
Thank you, your majesty GyaNex. 
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| thaag | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 06:13 AM
U'd be screwed if you type nepali font with your regular key board on this lay out |
| gal1 | Posted
on 29-Jun-03 08:59 PM
still wondering! :( |
| Yadav | Posted
on 29-Jun-03 09:42 PM
wondering..why would you be screwed? |
| thaag | Posted
on 30-Jun-03 07:23 AM
Yadav ji Type using kantipur or preeti nepali font as the layout shown above and you will Know. |
| gal1 | Posted
on 03-Jul-03 06:37 AM
knock knock! anyone with any other idea? |
| ShaddY_CLowN | Posted
on 03-Jul-03 05:03 PM
gal1 malai alu dum khai? banam ani balla bhanchu.. |
| Arnico | Posted
on 03-Jul-03 06:01 PM
Use Preeti or Kantipur font. They are the most common. If you have someone coming from Nepal, tell them to pick up a keyboard in Kathmandu with Nepali letters printed on the keys (for example available at CAS in Kathmandu Plaza for around Rs 800). Or, while in Preeti or Kantipur fonts... make yourself a keyboard map on paper, and hit every key once with and once without the shift key, and write out onto your map what you get. Pin that to your wall, to the bottom or your screen or somewhere like that, where you can look while learning to type in Nepali. |
| GP | Posted
on 04-Jul-03 01:52 AM
I think GyaNeX UniqWare 's announcement was a Right thing at wrong time in wrong mass of people. Why: It is right thing: It lets you type things in Nepali from any computer around the world that does not need to download preeti or kantipur fonts. What it needs ? You just a computers that have either Windows 2000 or later versions. Why ? All computers that have windows 2000 later versions, have a built in universal font set in Unicode character set, not on ASCII 256 character set. You don't have to worry about whether this computer has Preeti or Kantipur font? If not, whether am I allowed to download and install these fonts or not? Well, those who use old computers, its hard luck for them, not to have Unicode based fonts prestalled in their computer. Why GyaNeX UW is at wrong time ? Most of the peoples think that GyaNeX UniqWare is about special fonts. They are so dumb that they can not diffentiate between Font Set and a Character Set. UniCode is just a character set that includes all the major language around the world. Its not a font set, like Preeti or Kantipur.TTF. Its a table of characters, but, it does not specify outlook of a character. A font set gives a peculier outlook of font set. Thus, if you use Preeti font set, when typed "a" in keyboard, it looks like "Ba" ........, but, if you select it to Times Roman font set, it will be "a". Thus, ASCII has only 256 characters and english to Nepali all language were to be covered by those 256 addresses in the character table. But, to overcome this problem, Unicode.org has introduced a table of 64,000 characters. So, "Ka" in 64,000 will always be Ka, but, Preeti can not handle 64,000, because it has only 256 characters, thus, we need a special font set that includes either all 64,000 addresses or it takes care of particular section of the 64,000 big table e.g. Devnagariki Lipi is around 0901 (approx) out of FFFF sized table. Why a right thing GyaNeX UW went to wrong peoples? What is biggest problem with prospectus GyaNeX UW users ? They should be educated on "Font set", "character set", "ASCII" and Unicode. Well, I don't have resources to teach the "prejudiced " peoples who already have a fixed idea on font/character set. They take font set and character table as synonyms. As Casagrande wrote in his very famous paper, why we have conflicts: 1. We don't know about phemonenon at all. Or, We don't know a correct word / expression to explain a phenomenon. 2. We use two words to mean same things. Actually, we are talking the same thing, but, using two separate words. 3. We use same word to mean two completely things. Two phemonon are described by same word, thus, we are talking two perspectives of same word. The peoples who use Preeti and Kantipur and think that Unicode is a parallel font set to these two fonts, will be hard to teach or change their pre-set mind. Its like asking a Nepali Grand Mother to wear MiniSkirt. I have to wait for next generation of fresh users who will know the difference between a Font set and Character Table, like ASCII or Unicode. As similarly, I was surprised to see all mothers in last week's protest in front UN Building were wearing Punjabi Kurtha suruwal, and I am sure my grandmother would have surprised if she was still alive, because non of those protesting mothers in sight were wearing Sari-Blowse, that used to be standard dress for married women at least until my grandmother was alive. So, its a generation gap. I remember in 1986 when our head of the department taught us a subject and told that he does not like calculators and can do everything using slide rule, and next winter our department head was changed and the new head started a room full of personal computers for students, and the former head was furious ............. "why do you need computer in Civil Eng?". Its generation gap. The old guy of course big person teaching in the univ. long time before India got independence, but, did not want to change .......... Now, I guess the old generation is gone, they are just in history. Similarly, GyaNeX Uw will be in use by next generation, I will have to wait ........... till the generation that does not want to learn new things will get expired (out of date)........ either forced to learn it or quit the world. If you really want to learn new things, learn what is Unicode and why its different from conventional keyboard typing, why it needs special invoking software? (very short answer is: a keyboard usually has 100+ keys, and it has to type 64,000 characters if you want to type things using all languages using that 100+ key keyboard, you need a translator, i.e. for Nepali langauge: GyaNeX UW). ............ As always, apology for being long. Learn the difference between a Font Set and Character Table set (ASCII vs Unicode Table). You learn more, you will enjoy the greatness of Unicode character table and its concept. In 1986, when I used personal computer first time, the computer did not have a hard disk, "no hard disk (0 byte)", only 640KB memory. Imagine "NO hard disk". In 1991, when I had to compute using IBM's super compute at AIT, the main frame computer used to get jammed when I used my iterative calculation that required division head's approval for use of 8MB main frame computer's memory. The computer center some time blocked my program for occupying 8MB of memory. Now, my computer her has 512MB, its 2.6GHz and 60GByte storage. Well, in 1994 I bought a note book computer in Singapore with 120mb storage and 2MB memory, and it cost my 2000dollars (US$) now, even if I want to give it to someone, no one will take it. Because its obsolete. Time has changed. Old things gone in history. Similarly, those who don't like to learn GyaNeX UniqWare (or its of-shoot versions) and start using Unicode based Nepali typing. Jayhos GyaNeX UniqWare ko. GP 
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| GP | Posted
on 04-Jul-03 01:56 AM
Change yourself like those mothers in the picture. World has to move towards higher entropy, i.e. free life. We will not be suprised to see our next generation mothers wearing tight jeans pants (in that picture only one in jeans pants) and skirts. ....... Similarly, Unicode will release the stress to next generation "Which Nepali font shall I download? to see Kantipur, to see Bimarsha, to see Himal Patrika?". The answer to this question in next 5 years , will be unique, i.e. just connect to GyaNeX Uniqware or its sister versions. GP |
| Bob Marley | Posted
on 04-Jul-03 02:11 AM
GP.. The people here are actually looking for a help to type from a Nepali brother/sister. Not your freaking tech lecture. Take it easy and please do take anger management class. You seem to have few screws loose. |
| noname | Posted
on 04-Jul-03 04:05 PM
Just to add to Arnico's suggestion of printing keyboard layout: For preeti font the keyboard layout is available in Nepalipost.com http://www.nepalipost.com/images/preeti_keybord.jpg Hope this helps. |
| GP | Posted
on 05-Jul-03 02:37 AM
Yesterday was July 4th. July 4th : independence day for USA. On this asupicious day, I am liberating Nepalis from the pain and stress of downloading and installing fonts. Now, you can type Nepali using GyaNeX UW. The link to GyaNeX UW is very easy: http://www.GyaNeX.com July 4th is also the birthday of GyaNeX.com . GP |
| Arnico | Posted
on 05-Jul-03 06:30 AM
GP wrote: > Most of the peoples think that GyaNeX UniqWare is about special fonts. They are so > dumb that they can not diffentiate between Font Set and a Character Set. All right man... you got it. Add me to the list of dumb ones... (dumb but eager to learn, I suppose...) |