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| bhojpuree | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 01:02 PM
I used to appreciate his effort and collected some donation for him. But, now it seems to me that he knows the value of US$$$$$$ and he forgot his aim and goals totally and trying to collect donation making movie style story. How many people think that was the true story? That is just bullsit. Come one, if I see him again I am going to ask to return donation he got from us. If not I might take his bicycle. He is full of li.............. |
| wizard of oz | Posted
on 19-Aug-03 03:01 AM
Dear Bhojpuree, I have similar idea. He collected a good sum of Aussie dollar too. I don't believe this rubbish story of kidnapping in Mexico. Its all publicity stunt. |
| le chef du nuit | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 01:25 AM
i was wondering if the stories here are to be believed, pushkar shah recieved close to $5000 in one US city alone in donations towards his cause. how many cities did he visit? how much did he raise? is all the money he collected going towards his trip? or is a chunk of it stashed away? has this guy been open with the amounts of money he has recieved? it just seems strange that a guy whos been travelling all over the world would so gullibly walk into a trap. the more you think about it, the more this whole story sounds like a hoax. |
| sadabichar | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 08:46 AM
I have written quite a lot in the thread given below. All the numbers related to his coverage of the world on bike seems questionable.. I am quite surprised to hear that in a single city in US he could scour US$5000.. that's fantastic. This guy is now travelling with the credit card in his pocket, and he has bank account in USA's Bank of America. - http://sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=11815 In his diary, he mentions that he visited 21 US states.. don;t know exactly how many cities... If 5000US$ from one city.. then he must have raised a great deal of money from USA. My hunch is, he must have amassed at least US$30,000. And remember, he hardly spends that money for food, he always looks out for sponsoring family in every city he visits for free food and lodging. |
| gunda | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 10:01 AM
Posting on this thread is ludicrous, baseless, bias, hypocritical against Mr. Shah. Its counter productive for his efforts and Nepal and Nepalese. Get off of it.. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 12:37 PM
The numbers and calculations are all there in this thread: - http://sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=11815 Let me hear what you have to say against those calculations... I understand that many people in USA, Canada and other countries have donated $$$ to Pushkar Shah and they want to belive themselves that what they have done is for right cause... but is it for the right cause? Go through the calculations before you call the postings in this thread baseless or biased. |
| gunda | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 01:16 PM
There is nothing to say about your calculation, it is irrelevant, and you are just being pompous, arrogant about it. I read you posting, there is noting that raises alarm. You are just narrow-minded individual who is trying to discredit a man who has already traveled more countries than you and your forefather ever could. Power to him, may all might God bless and protect his journey. You claim that there is some scam going on his world tour journey, based on who and what? Why does it bother you that he will become subject of mockery if he cannot complete his journeys? There are people who attempt Everest and not everyone makes it and some even die trying, its the quest of human spirit, don't try to quench it. Lets see if you can travel 5 countries on a bike find people who can support you. You claim that money is being poured in to his account, again based on what, are you jealous of his achievement, so what people wants to help him, what is your worries?? Looks like you like him to fail, why?? What have you to gain from this?? If you claim is that he cannot achieve him goal then why not wait and see rather than babbling nonsense on the net. Whats your grievance against him? Whats wrong that he is traveling the world with a credit card in his pocket, whats wrong with that? After he finishes his journey he should be able to do what he wants even riding Pajero. Why not. What's wrong with that? Lastly have you met him?? |
| thapaktm | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 01:32 PM
Hey! Gunda (are you?) If he has been saying I am Mr. P. Shah and my hobby is to travel the world. Please help me. No one would have raised any question. But he is saying, I am Mr. P. Shah. I represent Nepal. For the peace in Nepal and the world. He hangs a Nepali flag on his bicycle. When he does so, all of his motive, destinations and money transactions should be made transparent to people who helps him. When he is in world tour, why is he in USA several times? People donated him to complete his journey and not to ride pajero. I dont understand why its ok for you if he does so. |
| thapaktm | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 01:33 PM
Hey! Gunda (are you?) If he has been saying I am Mr. P. Shah and my hobby is to travel the world. Please help me. No one would have raised any question. But he is saying, I am Mr. P. Shah. I represent Nepal. For the peace in Nepal and the world. He hangs a Nepali flag on his bicycle. When he does so, all of his motive, destinations and money transactions should be made transparent to people who helps him. When he is in world tour, why is he in USA several times? People donated him to complete his journey and not to ride pajero. I dont understand why its ok for you if he does so. |
| coolnepali | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 01:54 PM
I am also sick of seeeing Sadabichar and all punks writing senseless stuff... If you guys are really concerned about Pushkar then write to pushkar himself. Tell him your thoughts not here ----- Go to his site and talk about it......... Sadabichar---ask him why is he doing this tour and also ask him if he is planning to get a Pajero---tell him that you write a lot on Sajha.com against him Understood!!! Ruthless------------------ Be creative and get some life.... |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 02:47 PM
If you guys still want to believe that your support is for right cause.. then you don't care how Pushkar is leading his life on your money. Perhaps you guys have surplus money!! Ask yourself what's his journey is for. Is it for: Money, Peace, Nepal or World?. ...There are people who attempt Everest and not everyone makes it and some even die trying, its the quest of human spirit, don't try to quench it. Let's see if you can travel 5 countries on a bike find people who can support you.... At least climbing mount Everst has a definite target which is achievable in certain number of days. But I have clearly indicated how Pushkar jee will not be able to complete 390,000 kms in 11 years covering 150 countries. The argument here is, he is projecting astronomical figures of kms and asking people to pour mooney for his quest. You should have viable plan to make such pledges... and you should have decent performance to continue asking for donations during the journey. I don't think people who donated money did so because they have surplus money.. they donated becasue they think that a nepali will make Nepal popular in the eyes of world. They are donating money becasue they think that pushkar will have his name written in Guinness Records. I have already explained it is nexxt to impossible for him to get his name in Guinness Records. And the way he accomplished 80,000 kms in almost 5 years will never lead him to complete 390,000 kms in 11 years. And 2 years he spent in the same country USA doesn't project his intention as a credible one. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 02:58 PM
As mentioned by some in other posting here, Pushkar Shah managed to collect almost US$5000 from a single US city he visited as someone wrote in another thread. Imagine how much he might have amassed from all the cities he visited in US. He covered 21 states in USA ( don't know how many cities) spending almost 2 years in total. The reason why he stressed so much travelling USA and devoted such a long time is quite obvious now. It's all about $$$$$... not about peace. He shoudl be rather spending more time in those countries where peace is not on the horizon such as Middle-East, Liberia, Afganistan, India, Chechnya and many more and most importantly NEPAL. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 03:19 PM
If you can't digest the numbers I am talking about here in this thread, then you are still in denial phase. Think about this again: He travelled 80,000 kms so far in almost 5 years covering 52 countries. That means he has to cover yet 310,000 kms in next 6 years covering 148 countries. Which translates to - Every day from now onwards, he must bike = 310,000/(6*365) = 140 km/day. Compare this with what he has been biking currently (On average he biked 45 km/day). Forget about this... focus on what he had targetted before he started this journey. Basically what he said was "I will bike 97 kms/day every day for 11 years". 97 km/every day throughout 11 years non-stop??? That's ludicrous. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 03:21 PM
Then itslef people should have suspected his motives or his ignorance. |
| gunda | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 01:56 AM
USA is almost hundred times larger than Nepal and 75 times larger than Europe, do you know that there is time difference between California and New York by three plus hours? Do you know within one state there are dozens of cities? If Pushkar only been to 20 cities, he has barely scratched the surface of America. |
| gunda | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 02:07 AM
Your psydonunms fits well with your views. Sadha means Simple,simple also mean not sophisticated, illiterate, not too intelligent. I would hate to label my fellow countryman with this but your views are baseless, simplistic and narrow minded. Again you fail to substantiate your deceptive allegations. You claim that he made $5000.00 in each city based on whom and based on what? Ok, even if he did receive that much, whats wrong with that? People can do whatever they want with their hard earned money and they dont need your advice on how to spent it, I certainly dont need your advice whom to give my money and how I should spend it? I am not stupid and narrow minded. I dont know where you are but I have friends in various cities in the USA, in fact some of them have met and collected money for him. The amount is irrelevant, its the spirit and generosity towards our fellow countrymans dreams and desire, and we should support him. If you know anything about climbing Everest and how much of cooperate sponsorship or money it goes into it, you would probably faint. Pushkar does not have any cooperate sponsors. He does not go around and ask for money. How much money have you given to charity so far? You probably dont have any surplus money, huh? You know Nepalese people give money not because they have surplus, because Nepalese are kindhearted and generous people. Nepalese are hospitable, they will go out of their way to help you, and they are not cold and ignorant. Why do people spend thousands of dollars to climb Everest rather than give money to needy one and to make the world better? Since you seem to know what other people do and spend their money, maybe you can also educate us on ths too... |
| south | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 06:47 AM
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usland.htm http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/eu.htm gunda bro yeso heru hai, usa is smaller than europe not 75 times larger than europe. i think area of nepal is 141181 sq km so usa is like 64.87 times larger then nepal. ani arko kura ni how did u imagine like if usa is about 100 times larger than nepal, how could it possible it is 75 times larger than europe. does nt make sense to me. you think like europe is just 1.33 times larger than nepal. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 08:22 AM
Gunda, I think you have some problems with numbers.. and understanding the significance of numbers. The calculations were based on simple arithmetics, not even algebra, calculus or trigonometry. Don't get satisfied with imprudent logic of spending more time in USA coz it is very big country (area: 9.6 million sq km) and has a large population (290 million)... No, it's not like that. If it is so, then the other questions you would be asking is : how many days were spent in China which is almost equal in area (9.59 million sq Km) with USA and has much more population (1.2 billion) than that of USA. About 5000$, someone projected that figure here, not me. But I can take that figure to be 100% authentic. Why? because I saw with my own eyes far more than $ 2000 being raised in the City where I am living. Literally guys were pressurizing each other to donate in the amount of $100 each family. I saw this guy, I heard this guy, I talked to this guy.. and my donation was NIL. I have far better place where I am still donating my money. If you think that Nepalese are too generous and thus donating money to his vacation... then you are too naive. He is basically minting money out of your generosity. Before you make donation, at least think the numbers: 390,000 Kms in 11 years covering 150 countries He was supposed to bike every day 97 km from the very beginning. But he biked, on average, only 45 km/day. And, now he needs to bike 140km each day non-stop until his 11 years deadline will finish. I didn't say only 21 cities in USA. It's 21 States.. the number of cities he visited is far more than 21. |
| lovaboy | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 08:38 AM
ATTN: Sadabichar I have been reading your posting on Puskar and seems like you have some kind of personal vendetta against Puskar. Use your time productively on some other posting where your time and effort is valued. Infact you are presenting your self more like an idiot than anything else by trying to hang on to his story like a pimp to a whore. Lets get some fact straight! I have helped him organize some of his events and I have no recollection of him raising $5000. Also to let you know people helped him coz he symbolizes Nepal at present. A young man who no future with a dream. He is an example of unemployed youth who simply want a better life for himself. He found an allibi to market himself that is to spread the messg of peace and created a path for himself. Whether he is doing for selfish reason or for Nepal, people helped him not becoz they think he is a Buddha but people liked his personal stories and helped him get to the next level. No one has been co-erced or raped or beaten to obtain the funds received. Some people have given him food, some shelter, some money and simply best wishes. You want to support him or not support him that's your personal problem. But these stupid allegations should stop. If you have facts, post it here if not then go to a corner and pleasure yourself with something insightful! It might take 11 yrs or he might never do it. Simply if you haven't paid a dime, which you mentioned above, then its simply none of your business. He is in regular contact with people who has helped him get this far. In life think about the process or in simpler term focus on journey not just on destination! Peace! |
| john doe | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 09:01 AM
I think Lovaboy hit the nail on its head when he said "its simply none of your business". Sadabichar, there r a lot of fruitful ways to spend the amount of energy you have spent on this particular subject on Sajha. Like get back to work, for example. Or maybe go to the gym and get a workout. Just stop victimizing the guy and making a bigger fool out of yourself than you already have. And if u're still ignorant enough to think that, for some reason, he owes u an explanation, just get over it and get on with your life. And thats assuming u actually have one. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 09:12 AM
I can understand that you guys are still in denial phase. |
| john doe | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 09:19 AM
congratulations! U just posted something without any numbers or dollar signs in it! And u didnt even use the 'P' word! I knew there was light at the end of the tunnel!!! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 09:25 AM
It's a business of every nepali person in the world, coz he is a Nepali, he is representing Nepal with Nepali Flag in his bike and doing all nautanki around the world. And it doesn't matter who has donated and who has not. Every Nepali has equal priviledge to comment on his journey. Don't think that by organizing event for him and helping to raise money puts you in any better place than those who didn't. |
| computer | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 10:14 AM
Yes --sadha--we are all stupid people. You are the one who understand the best. Man--you are soo good at Math as well. I should have met you and follow your path--BUT I GUESS WHAT--- I am not stupid and stubborn----(in nepali---lide dhippi) |
| gunda | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 10:37 AM
Saadhabichar, I don't have proiblem with numbers, but I am beginning to have problems with your views which are baseless and not nice. If you keep up this kind of nonsense, belive me I can reveal who you are and where you are, and if you ever come back to Nepal I can take care of you really good, I can give you lessons on numbers in jabs and kicks so that you learn to respect others which your parents fail to teach you. If you have not given any money, you have nothing to say. Again stop making baseless, useless alligations. |
| sparsha | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 10:57 AM
"It's a business of every nepali person in the world, coz he is a Nepali, he is representing Nepal with Nepali Flag in his bike and doing all nautanki around the world. And it doesn't matter who has donated and who has not. Every Nepali has equal priviledge to comment on his journey. " Sadabichar, I think you are going too far now. I am a Nepali. I have a Nepali flag sticker on my car displayed all the time. Whenever I get an appropriate chance, I do not hesitate to identify myself as a Nepali. I also would like to say one or two good things about Nepal when seems appropriate. So, I do represent Nepal. Now, do I owe any freaking explaination to you and others on who am I? what do I do? how much do I make? where did I had momo last night? Hell no. No. No. NO. Commenting on something and constructive criticism is one thing but deliberate attempt to attack someone is wrong (my opinion). I am not against you criticizing Pushkar Shah's attempt. Why should I? But let's be objective in criticism, please. I intitally though that you are espressing your concerens and there is nothing wrong with that. But I just feel you are going too far in the air now. I feel that you have made your point already. Don't you think you should let this issue rest. You will just be repeating same thing over and over now, if you continue. Don't stretch that responsibility concept too much, please. Rights without duties is nothing but "awasarbad". You seem to be a well read person. You know this, don't you? |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 12:24 PM
Rather think about this: In most of the countries Mr. Pushkar lands, he somehow manages to get an article about himself in the local newspapers and sometimes TV footage. Till today, such articles quote that this fellow is on a journey of 390,000 kms in 11 years around 150 countries. And now it is already evident that he will never accomplish that feat of 390,000 kms. All these local papers in different countries just need some masala to put of the news in their pages, but they will perhaps never follow up the news once Pushkar leaves that country. But we Nepalese do follow up anyways. So the question is, do you guys feel OK when our nepali goes out in various country and repeatedly tells the locals about his journey claiming that he biking for 390,000 kms in 11 years? Well, 390,000 kms sounds quite attractive, charming yet very challenging too, and we know that's not going to happen anymore. Now this 390,000 kms turned out to be just a Sasto Nara to keep money coming in for the vacation/living. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 12:33 PM
Gunda wrote: Saadhabichar, I don't have proiblem with numbers, but I am beginning to have problems with your views which are baseless and not nice. If you keep up this kind of nonsense, belive me I can reveal who you are and where you are, and if you ever come back to Nepal I can take care of you really good, I can give you lessons on numbers in jabs and kicks so that you learn to respect others which your parents fail to teach you. Now is that a threat? :-) I am sorry if my views are not applealing and they are 'not nice' to you. Ausadhi ta tito nei hunchha ni. Computer: don't rush in admitting whatever you like such as "yeah, we are all stupid". When you just break your nice dream, you still want to believe that you are still in that nice dream. But reality is different. |
| gunda | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 02:12 PM
SadaBochar, its not ausadhi, you are spreaking poison, and it is you who is dreaming. Its high time that be a man accept that you are wrong and raise your credibility on this forum. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 04:22 PM
Ha ha.. you are the one who slipped away from arguing.. and started threatening.. now tell me who needs to increase whose credibility. What is there that is not poison? All things are poison and nothing without poison. Only the dose determines that an agent is not a poison. - Paracelsus, c. 1538 |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 04:41 PM
Why can't people understand that "Around the world in 11 years" itself is a huge joke... At the pace he is doing this travel requires him another 18.9 years ( so far he covered 80000 kms in 5 years, with the target of 390,000 kms). That's like Around the World in Quarter Century . |
| lovaboy | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 04:48 PM
I wore a tshirt with nepali flag and went to a strip bar, got drunk and spent more money that I should have.. does that mean I am an embarracement for Nepal? or Shall I have a permission from the home ministry to wear a shirt with Nepal's flag? Freedom is all we have and we are all free to persue our own dreams. When you take freedom for granted and post your thoughts with baseless agruments then it takes a different turn. Your posting, as you can see or if you want a professional opinion you can have a shrink take a look at it, is getting more defensive and has no meat. Defamation is not only against law but is also inethical. If Puskar has done no damage then leave him alone. Since you have not even donated a penny, you really do not have right to critique him. "390,000 kms in 11 years around 150 countries" This is a factual figure and as per simple math he has I think completed 1/3 of the number above in 4+ years. Whether he can complete it, or if he completes it, its his business not ours. He is risking his own life to do so and he has all the right in the world to do so. BTW, if a freaking white dope smoker comes to KTM with sponsorship from Mountain Hardwear or Northface to climb Mt. Everest. He is a Hero, If our own Nepali goes from country to country without any heavy sponsorship then he gets defamed. Do you see the irony... I know the anonymity on these forums can sometime be nice. But my thinking is how can a Nepali Guy in the US, "I assume you are in the US," be so ignorant or have so much hate towards another human being forget about nationality. What a waste of time... You have been persuing this topic forever and I think its time you put this matter to rest. Grow up! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 06:53 PM
This is a factual figure and as per simple math he has I think completed 1/3 of the number above in 4+ years. HOw did u come up with taht 1/3 thing? Does 80,000 km/ 390,000 kms turns out to be 1/3 for you ? |
| gunda | Posted
on 21-Aug-03 11:02 PM
sadhabichar, I have title Gunda for no reason, I found out where you are posting from and I can find out who you are, if ever we come across either in Nepal or in the USA, trust me you will know who I am. You borke ass, trying to smart ass as well. Get a life. You must have taken break from flipping ham burger or Indian boss must fired you from the kitchen duty. There is no point to reason with you. I pity you and your parents who never tought you the respect and decency in life. You probably don't even know who your father is if you did he would have at least shown you how to be a man. You can say what you want but support for Pushkar is not going to change, I and all my friends will support him all the way. What has he done you to you A.. hole, what have you done for Nepal you losere, how many people have you personally introduced Nepal to you broke ass, nil, I love to pound your ass untill you cry for daddy... Get a life you Ba....strD.... Has anyone call you that? Iits sad that you have proven to be one right here? |
| lovaboy | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 12:27 AM
Sadabichar you F***ing moron, check the dates on the info on 80,000. The data published on the site across the net is old |
| lamphu | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 07:47 AM
Sadabichar is posting all these junks without any responsibilities. That is not a free speech, neither it is a part of democracy. He is simply trying to preach hate. He must think that people are just dumb enough to believe whatever he is writing. It seems he is just trying to portrait Mr. Pushkar Shah as a crook, one way or the other. Before writing these half-assed logics here, he might first want to do some little research on bike tours and stuff. Otherwise he is just embarrassing himself. Mr. Shah is not on a bike race. He is on a bike tour. On tours, bikers travel an average distance over a long period of time. That means he might travel 80K kilometers over 4 years then do another 80Ks in two years and so on. On tours, geography places a big role. One cannot bike same distance/day in a hilly terrain, as you would do it in flat plains. It is just not humanly possible. (That is why you would see more bicycles in Birgunj/Biratnagar/Nepalgunj than in Sholukhumbu.) Physical difficulties aside, one has to also sacrifice his family his kids, etc. It is up to him to decide. This is not a new concept for Nepalese, by the way. Back in 60s when a new engineer/doctors goes back to Nepal, he will usually be required to work in very far off places. He wont get to see his family until Dasain. And that too, just for two weeks. If we look at Nepalese social structure, men always travel far off to work. Being away from home for years is nothing new for Nepalese men. Sherpas travel lower valleys to sell salt and Jimbu grass. Others go to Lahore to become Lahuray. Some go to Indian cities to become bahadur. Some travel to Lhasa to trade salt. Some go to China to teach Nepalese architecture. The list just goes on. So why is Pushkar Shah leaving his family in home to do the tour is something different? For next 11 years, Mr. Shahs job is to bike, just like Lahurays job is to serve in Indian Army, Sherpas job to sell salt, etc. We have no right to say how Pushkar should live his life. Who cares, if Mr. Shah finishes the tour or not. Unlike rest of us, he pursued his dream. How many of us can say that about ourselves? |
| lamphu | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 08:29 AM
As far as Pushkar Shah's usage of Nepalese flag: the type of work he is involved him, it is appropiate to display the flag. It is his right. Neither you nor I can take that from him. After very long period of time, a Nepali has done something that is worthy. We should be bothered if he didNOT use the Nepalese flag. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 10:07 AM
Gunda wrote: Sadhabichar, I have title Gunda for no reason, I found out where you are posting from and I can find out who you are, if ever we come across either in Nepal or in the USA. It's quite interesting to hear your bluff. So did you really find out from where I am writing? Anger will never disappear so long as thoughts of resentment are cherished in the mind. Anger will disappear just as soon as thoughts of resentment are forgotten. --Buddha |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 10:09 AM
Lovaboy wrote: Sadabichar you F***ing moron, check the dates on the info on 80,000. The data published on the site across the net is old. This might help you: Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one getting burned. -Buddha |
| lamphu | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 10:28 AM
If, Puskhar Shah = Lord Budhha. then, Sadabichar = Mara "...While Mara is unable to subjugate Buddha, he is more successful with Buddha's followers, even approaching the Buddha's own brother, Ananda. As the source of evil, he causes misunderstanding between teachers and pupils, casts doubt on the value of Buddha's sayings by calling them nothing but poetry, or encourages monks to waste their time on abstruse speculations. Worse, he appears in the guise of a monk, nun, relative or prominent Brahmin, bringing false news that a disciple is destined to be a new Buddha. If the disciple succumbs to the temptation, he will be filled with sinful pride. Mara could even appear in the form of Gautama Buddha in order to confuse Buddhists or lead them astray..." Source: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/bodhidharma/mara.html |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 12:24 PM
Ambition is like love, impatient both of delays and rivals. |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 12:26 PM
Sadabichar: For the love of god please let this and the other Puskar thread drop from the first page. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 12:33 PM
Anyways, lastly - One day Gautam Buddha was at Jitwan Bihar. A Brahman gambler came to see him and asked many nonsense questions. Buddha kindly responded telling him that if you waste your time sleeping most of time and live without work being lazy, drink wines and other drugs, unnecessary talks, elongated travel abroad alone and involve in infidelity to other's women, then your life will be spoilt (sarvanash). By the mean time he asked him, " Dear Brahman, how much do you win/lose from the game?" The Brahman answered: "Sometime I win a lot and sometime lose." Then Bhagawan Buddha told him with a Pali slok: Look at Brahman, the person who can win sufferings or pains and indiscretion of stupidity, he is called the super winner. If you win a lot in a game, you cannot be the super winner. You cannot save it forever and sometimes you will lose it. If you win sufferings/pains and indiscretion or stupidity, you will win forever, there is no chance to lose it again. If you can suppress your uncontrolled desires, it is worth than to defeat the thousands and thousands of enemies in war and you cannot be defeated even by any Gods, Gandharvas and the Bramha (Creator). |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 02:07 PM
- http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=Mexico Hey ppl, this story sounds bogus ni ta. You guys must think seriousely about how on earth Pushkar Shah could remember the number plate 357BM7 so well. Blue color is fine though. The number plate is combination of numbers and alphabets. The truck came in front his bicycle, that means the truck must be parked near to his bike. I don't see the point how he can remember the number plate even if he circles the truck 10 times during the conversation. I assume those guys must be intersted in talking more about him and his bike than giving him a tour to their truck. Anyways remembering the number plate doesn't sound quite convincing to me. But what if he memorized the number plate, then took a ride in their truck, and after 3 hours got down and took off into jungle. Well obviousely the truck driver would then try to search him to return his belongings including the bike. To me, this might be a conspiracy to win sympathy of Nepalese in the USA and use them as a milking-cow. He also writes: Despite my whole body aching and hurting, I am alive." And how the words 'I am alive' has been highlighted by bolding them. The story goes like this: Namaste! Here is some experince I had last night. Last evening 6.00p.m.i was resting 60 kilometer north from San Fernando. A truck came and stop infront of my bicycle. Two men got off the truck and came near me. They watched my bicycle. We talked little bit English and Spanish. One guy went in the truck. He called me to come in and have some water, I followed. He gave me water. After drinking the water, he suddenly pulled a big knife and put on my neck. He told me to sit under his leg so that others could not see. The driver loaded my bicycle onto the truck. I just heard the sound of the bike being thrown into the truck. After a long drive they stoped the truck. The man asked me to get up. It was almost dark, I didn't know where I was. It was dessert jungle. I looked at my watch, it was 9.15pm. At this point in time, I was convinced that they were going to kill me. I thought if have to die, I should not die like an animal. So I decided to fight back, and I fought hard as they were big sized. The man who had knife, got off the truck. As he was dismounting, I quickly jumped on him from behind. He fell on the ground. I saw the perfect opportunity to run, and I ran into jungle. The driver chased me with a flash light. It was wild, i didn't know where I was. I stopped after half and hour later. I was pierced with lots of cactus pin on my body. My whole body has scratches from different kinds of thorns. Three hours walk later, I reached Paddilo city 12.15(midnight). I made a police report about the incident. The truck was a blue color bearing the number plate 357BM7. Despite my whole body aching and hurting, I am alive. My ankle hurts badly though. I also managed to save my belt bag which contained my money and passport. The rest of the stuff is history. It is little disheartening, after a long break I was back on the road again just to be robbed. Mexico is the 52nd country of my peace journey. I have to move on - I will go to Victoria today. Mexico city is 774 kilometers far from Padila city. I survived one more death. Eekloyatri |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 07:31 PM
I think it is a scam to make money here. There are more than one person involved in this. I also heared that some one saw him in the bus instead of cycling. Whether he carries a flag of nepal or not when it is scam it is a scam. I saw here someone like Gunda threatening when sadabichar is expressing his opinion. Sadabichar has every right to express his opinion. Here is another story goes: Once he was invited to a nepali friend's house and offered him a ride but Puskar proudly refuse the ride telling him that he cannot travel in a car because bicycle is his only means of transportation. Next time the same friend saw him travelling in other nepalese friend's car when he was invited to other nepalese family home. What is this? |
| gunda | Posted
on 23-Aug-03 04:54 PM
Pipal dada, everyone is welcome to express their views here but not mis-information, and defamation. If you are a man of integrity you have to be able to prove what is scam? If you are seeking truth and seeking information on this matter than its a different thing. What you are saying, " it is scam to make money here" ? I certainly hope you don't mean that idea of making money is scam. If you think Pushkar is making money riding his bike around the world is a scam, then you have to prove why it qualifies to be called scam. Has he cheated you, has he swindle your money, has he made false claim on the goods and service that he is to provide and took advantage of you? I hope not, let me know if he did. If I am to take your view further, there are dorzons of companies and hundreds of people making money selling Nepal for all sort of reasons and that too, I suppose would be a scam? You might want to look up the defination of scam before blindly joining the rank of Sadhabichar. You say "Scam is Scam" what are you saying, what is scam here?? Please eloborate, if its a valid and if its true, I will support and I would love to join you. Who are you tell him set standard for him that he can not ride a bus car, train or an airplane? So what he rode a bus, took a ride in someone's car, why does this bother you?? |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 23-Aug-03 06:50 PM
eh gunda! When people gave you valid points, you threatened to beat them up in Kathmandu or USA! what is this if this is not a scam? May be you are a part of this conspiracy of making money which you yourself agreed just now in your posting. Now you prove without giving any threat that it is not a scam by providing valid points as previous people provided with solid data to prove it is a scam. We are in a democratic country and like you everybody has their rights to express their opinion. There are a lot of people who regreted contributing minimum of $100 just to save their face before everybody even if they were not willing to do so. people make $7 an hour and they work hard. You see how difficult it is to make money! Not like Puskar staying in places fooding and lodging freely and collecting money in every city in USA . I can guarenty he has tons of $$$$$$ in his USA bank account and pretends he lost bicycle and asking donations for everything again and again! Is it not a scam??????? Also remember gunda to threaten somebody is also a part of scam! |
| learner_1 | Posted
on 23-Aug-03 07:48 PM
I think for every thesis there is anti-thesis. Therefore, when someone says it is a scam, there will be someone will say it is not a scam. In this thread I have read ample of arguments claiming that the Pushkar's journey could be a scam.. but not enough arguments that refuted that claim. It is true that 80,000 kms not a digestible length that Pushkar Shah might have completed so far. The only solid evidence available is the data published by Nepali Times (perhaps Kantipur. Gorkhapatra etc. at the time when Pushkar Shah returned from Australia to Nepal for a rest). - http://www.nepalnews.com.np/ntimes/jan12-2001/cyclist.htm The Nepali times quoted: "The combination of Buddhas spirit and the sheer will to pedal carried him afar, starting from India then to Pakistan, the Maldives, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Bangladesh, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, China, Honk Kong, Korea, Japan, Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, even East Timor, and finally, Australia, from where he flew back home to take a break. In all, Shah crossed 28,500 km in 21 countries on his mountain bike". Yes, at that time when the news was published, this 28,500 kms could be a true number. Till then Pushkar Shah perhaps was still truthful... let's assume this way. But by now he has completed 52 countries altogether. What we have to consider is "is it possible that Pushkar might have completed 80,000 - 28,500 = 51,500 kms after those 21 countries mentioned above?" Here, people even think that probably Pushkar might have completed more than 80,000 kms.. But one should not believe such numbers just by sheer sentiments. We always have to think twice or even more to believe anything. We should not simply believe whatver people say or written in book or told by your teacher just out of respect.. I forgot who said that quotation.. I could not recall here. We have to analyze objectively. This is how i convinced myself that Pushkar has not completed even 80,000 kms so far. 21 countries (mentioned above) = 28,500 km Here are the other countries he visited so far and I have checked each of those countries' geographical data, typically considering the size of the country and the maximum distance Pushakr might have convered in that country: 22. Fiji = 200 km (very small country or VSC) 23. New Zealand = 600 km 24. Samao Western = 100 km (VSC) 25. St. Kitts = 100 Km (VSC) 26. St. Lucia = 100 km (VSC) 27. Trinidad and Tobago = 100 km (VSC) 28. Tongo = 300 km 29. Equador = 700 km 30. Nicaragua = 500 km 31. Panama = 600 km 32. Puerto Rico = 250 km 33. Bahamas = 150 km 34. Barbados = 150 km 35. Haiti = 200 km 36. Cuba = 1000 km 37. Dominica = 100 km (VSC) 38. Dominic Republic = 300 km 39. Jamaica = 300 km 40. Antigua = 100km (VSC) 41. El Salvador = 300 km 42. Hondurus = 600 km 43. East Timor = 0 km (already included in the first leg of journey) 44. Canada = 4000 km (although the Nepalese Canadians believe that he cheated during the journey across Canada by travelling in buses) 45. USA = 5000 km 46. Mexico = 1000 Km ( journey still in progress) So guys, The total distance he covered after 28,500 km works out to be only 16,750 km. I know i missed perhaps few countries, so i could not worked beyond 46 countries mentioned above. All those countries were there in his website - http://www.pushkarshah.com However those missed countries are quite small ones and cannot offer very long distance to be biked. Hence, as being an avid student of Geography, with all the tools of maps and informations that I have, I managed to get only 28,500 + 16,750 = 45,250 km as the most acceptable distance that Mr. Pushkar Shah could claim to have biked so far. Therefore 80,000 km that we are reading in thamel.com or nepalisite.com (although update date of those webpages might be older) is False. And therefore, a scam can be suspected. Yeah, and I don't think He would ever get entered into Guinness Book of World records. |
| ashu | Posted
on 23-Aug-03 07:52 PM
Sadabichar, You sound like a reasonable person. But I am amazed that you express amazement about people's NOT grasping what you are saying about Pushkar. I mean, what do you expect? The blame is all yours. And here's why. When you, as an anonymous poster, go after Pushkar Shah -- a known person -- repeatedly, your criticisms become more and more difficult to take seriously, and you eventually run the risk of being laughed at, as -- I fear -- is already happening. Yes, you may be RIGHT in an abstract, conceptual, compelling-logic sense, but, who knows, the broader picture may well be that you also have your own agenda too. Who is to know for sure here? More to the point, when the moniker "sadabichar" exempts you from taking any REAL-LIFE responsibility for your criticisms, then you should do not expect your readers to respond to your postings in ways you want. If you really believe in what you are saying, why not throw in the gauntet, take the risks, bite the bullet, and make your real self known, and deal with the consequences that come in pursuit of "the truth" as you see it? What's stopping you from going all the way? If you cannot do that, then, that's all right. But just do understand the sheer limitations a Web discussion has in examining the kind of truth you seem to be seeking, and let it be that, while wishing Pushkar well, and leave it at that. Plase take this as a friendly suggestion. oohi ashu |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 24-Aug-03 08:04 AM
I think sadabichar should be anonimos against the known Emperor. because he has been threatened by revealing that the emperor is naked. It is good some one has provided the distances of each country. This is the real proof! Now anyone can come up and prove that the distance given is wrong. Take up the map and measure the maximum distance yourself. This is bad to do a fraud in the name of Lord Gautom Buddha. Free food and free lodging and he is coming and going and coming again and again in USA forever to generate more dollars! This doesn't make any sense. Let us not be swindlers here! For sure the Emperor is Naked! |
| sadabichar | Posted
on 24-Aug-03 09:24 AM
I still prefer to be an anonymous poster. And whoever came after me, all of them are anonymous posters too. How many posters in this thread are writing on their own identity, except youself, Ashu? None!! So the debate, argument, name calling happened among the anonymous posters in this thread, which is not even important. Only that it proves that name-calling doesn't make one's argument strong. What is important is the idea that I propagated in this newsgroup to impart various other angles of evaluating the situation. I know some of the people here are having hard time chewing the facts... But Truth remains the same. The only way to explore the truth is to doubt and doubt again. By living in USA or advanced countries doesn't make one intellect as they think, and having no education or turning burgers doesn't deprive one from reasoning as well. A pure truth can come from anybody's mind with correct reasoning. All these times even I was looking at the facts and numbers considering 80,000 kms as the total distance biked by Pushkar so far. And my arguments were clouded by such a wrong estimate of distance as indicated by learner_1 (coz we are not in a position to exactly say how much km has been biked as those information is not available yet ...anywhere). Now it appears even that 80,000 kms sounds overestimated distance as calculated by Learner_1, who came up with only 45,250 km. However, I still want to know exactly how the maximum possible distance for Pushkar to bike in each of those countries were calculated. If the distance in each country was calculated as a straight line between two farthest points in the map, then we have to remember that the bike path that Pushakr used might be longer than such a straight line distance. But still as a factor of safety, for estimate purpose, we multiply 16,750 km by 1.5, the total distance comes as 25,125 km. And this yields total of only 53,625 km (28,500 + 25,125). Almost short of 26,000 km for 80,000 km to be true. If we simply double the estimate provided by learner_1 to be generous, then total distance so far completed is only 62,000 kms (28,500 + 2*16,750), Yet again, 18,000 kms short for 80,000 km to be true. |
| gunda | Posted
on 24-Aug-03 01:06 PM
Pipal dada and SadhaBichar are both chickenhead trying to be smart ass. You are wasting your time. You have not contributed a dine to Pushkar to promote Nepal and peace and you are against the people giving money to Pushkar. Shame on you. You claim that people regret goving money to Pushkar, if they regret it, let them deal on their own, who asked you to be a spokeperson for them? Whoever has contributed money, food or shalter or what ever they did it willingly, you have problem with that? YOu can belive that I am also involved in this scam if you want. Yes, while you work your ass off for seven dollars an hours, I make thundreds of dollars sitting in my big ass chair. You have problems with that, I am sorry, I can not can not do anything about it. YOu sould do it if you can, use your brians rather than brawns, you morans.. |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 24-Aug-03 01:23 PM
hey gunda now prove it if it is not a scam! People are talking about SCANDAL upon SCANDAL here. Let the people open their eyes and see with real proof provided here. Whether you call bad names or not, people don't care but people have given valid points with maps and figures and those datas are universally fixed geographical datas that you can check it anywhere you like. |
| Biswo | Posted
on 24-Aug-03 02:44 PM
After reading hundreds of postings about Pushkar, I have been somewhat sceptic of Pushkar's claim. It is also sad that he doesn't seem to be a very fidel person , and , in fact, he sounds like a feckless person, leaving his family behind in Nepal on their own. I particularly resent those married persons who are proud of their infidelity. But I think it is an overstatement to say that he is 'earning money' or 'deliberately defrauding people'. I don't think he got US$5,000.00 from all cities that he visited, that is a lot of money and Nepali people are not that generous/affluent/numerous in every cities. I think he is genuine in his pursuit, he probably really wants to do what he is aiming for.I also hope that he will learn a lot of good things, rather than those bullshits that he seems to have learnt until now. He also need to be more humble, and refrain from making grand statement about politics etc:-)But we can hope that tough travels make people mature and knowledgeable. Even if he writes a good book, detailing his visit of the countries he went to, at the end of his tour, he will be contributing something significant to our literature, which is more important for us than a record in Guinness Book. A lot of Nepali will have a good chance to learn about countries like Ivory Coast or Gini Bissau (Sp?) in a single book. Setting record or not, just bringing home information about those rarely visited countries will be worthy if he does that. |
| desh_bhakta_bhattarai | Posted
on 24-Aug-03 06:00 PM
 Pushkar Shah is a very honest man. But I think he is a little over-ambitious. I guess he needs to extend his deadline...from 10 years to 12 years. DBB |
| gunda | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 02:11 AM
Pipaldada, you lame fox, coming on this forum with different name, huh? that's ok, Only people who are calling scam is a moran who called himself Pipaldada and broke ass Sadhabochar. Some points on numbers maybe be valid but its irrrelevent. Mis-calculations or overestimation on Pushkar's part is not a scam. It is possible that it could be honest mistake? Rather than helping him to correct his projections you are calling it a scam, what a nice guy? What kind of Nepali are you? Our country is in such a mess, because we have monkey like you. No offence, but think about it, "bandar lay, afno ghar pani banaudaina and akrako ghar matra bhaktaucha" Don't doge the question, how much money Pushkar stole from you? Weather he finishes his journey like he says he would only time will tell. If he does its good for him and for Nepal, he does not you will get a madel of honor and he will be put to shame are you happy now, you moran.. |
| gunda | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 02:43 AM
Biso thanks, thank you for being honest. At least you are not falling for all the garbage that some punks been putting on this thread. Let's say you started a journey on your own and travelled forty some countries and some lazy ass calls you a lier and cheater, how would you feel?? I think Pushkar needs help and directions, he didn't even have a web site until recently. For SadhaBichar one size fits all, Pushkar got about 1500 to 2000 dollars in one city, I think in Seattle, and he thinks other cities where there are more Nepaliese wil more, but it didn't happen. I checked with some friends in few cities where Pushkar visited and numbers doesn't even come close. Most of the cities only contributed few hundred dollar far cry from Sadhabiochar's $5,000 claim. Americans were more generious and supportive than Nepalese in some cities. So this idea that is he making lots of while riding bycycle around the world is just garbage. |
| ashu | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 07:59 AM
Sadabichar, Despite what others say, I, for one, FULLY support your right to question Pushkar Shah or anyone else for their PUBLIC behaviour. My only growing and friendly concern is that you do it in such a way that you do not -- unwittingly and inadvertently -- end up reducing your claims to something absurd and laughable and even irritating, especially when: a) you do not make yourself known so as to fully stand behind your accusations . . I mean, if you are telling the truth, what's stopping you from taking FULL real-life responsibilities for the consequences of your claims? b) you do not seem to have taken any risks yourself by conveniently assuming an anonymous avatar to lash out at a known figure c) you seem not to have talked DIRECTLY with and to Pushkar and reported his side of the story to us [don't expect reasonable Sajha folks to look at only one side of the story, and make up their mind!] d) you seem to equate your doubts and your plausible suspicions to THE TRUTH for all to accept I could go on, but if I have learnt anything about the nature of Internet debates, it is this: It's SIMPLY impossible for anonymous critics to take on known figures on the Net no matter how right the critics might be. The only way to take on known figures is to risk your name, and deal with the conseqences. Meantime, Pushkar Shah -- no matter what anyone thinks of him -- cycles on just fine, and will go on just fine, becoming more famous than he already is. oohi "compelling logic alone NEVER wins an argument wth human beings" ashu |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 10:15 AM
What I feel is that this guy Pushkar Shah is milking money out of Nepalese in USA. It's funny how he travelled around USA for more than 2 years and collected money over there... in Seattle instantly the neaplese gathered in the park and raised $800. I also cannot believe $ 5000... but who knows in some city he might have got $5000 too. But as stated, he visited 21 states in USA. Which means he travelled more than 21 cities here in USA. Then he must have got lot of money in USA. It appears that's why now he has his bank account in USA.. and donation is requested directly into his bank account. Or personal checks in his name to be mailed to: Pushkar Shah 5613 Jefferson Street Hollywood, FL 33023 See the address properly... there is someone handling all the checks flowing into this address for Pushkar.. and yet we do not know who is that person/organization. But after long stay in uSA, and after collecting heaps of money, here again Shah sets on to journey in Mexico..and immediately Nepalisite.com reports us that he lost everything and requests for donations for everything. Where has all those moneys gone that he collected so far in USA. We know that he got free all the lodging and boarding while roaming around USA. So the a very small amount of collected money might have been spent ... When he reached El Salvador, at one place no one was giving damn about him. So Pushkar Shah seems to have told the locals/Mayors/authorities that he is on world tour, and he is continuosly communicating with the WAVE magazine about his experiences in various countries, which then publishes regularly about his expereinces in those countries.. The newspaper further writes, that since the WAVE magazine is following up Pushkar all the time and publishing regularly about him and how he is being treated in various countries, El Salvador will have to feel ashamed, if no one gives him lodging and fooding.. immediately that evening he was offered all. The police were not agreeing his plann to camp in the roadside for sleeping in El Salvador. But he compelled them to let him camp one night there. Remember when he was in CHina... he broke the law there by biking on Highway.. isn't that stupid enough? He was put into jail for violating that law there. - http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=El+salvador Translated version is here: - http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.elsalvador.com/noticias/2002/5/24/nacional/nacio13.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpushkar%2Bshah%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN Part of the translated version is here : "It resorted then to the Mayorship of San Salvador, where they made wait for four hours him to the one in charge of Public Relations. Pushkar explained who was, but even so they did not take care of it. It was sorry that that is past, because affects the image of the country, because every month for the magazine "Wave" writes, in Nepal, in where it counts his experiences in each nation." |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 10:25 AM
And he also said this in El Salvador: "It already visited the Door of the Devil and, when seeing the Panchimalco distant spot, it remembered his villa, where they wait for his Yug son to him, of 4 years, and other family and friends. "To know new friends it is a reason not to have as much nostalgia. Every day I have a new family ", concluded." This is how he captivates the locals of each country... saying that oh this scene, or distant spot, or your this mountian.. makes me remember my own villa, mountian or so so in Nepal. And he remembers his 4 year young son, faimly and friends as well. But at the same he cleverly says, Oh i do not get any nosltalgia coz i get new family every day.. What the heck this New Family Everyday means? |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 10:34 AM
It appears to me that Gunda or his associates are involved in handling Pushkar Shah's bank account, checks in USA. He is so die-hard to let the money keep on rolling. The robbing stroy in Mexico is not convincing at all. Hey, Learner_1, you say that you are a Geography student.. why can't you verify is his story is true. You can dig out the maps of Mexico and see the distances between various spots he mentioned.. and find out if it is true the way he describes the timings of the events and loactions and distances. The Wave Magainze doesn't even updates his diary anymore after the last ones from 2001 November. But he gave bluff to the El Salvador people to get free boarding, fooding. - http://www.wavemag.com.np/specials/pushkar/ The WAVE magazine quotes: "Now he feels incomplete. "I have not done anything for my country, family, no one. I'm jobless. I'm wasting away. So I thought why not utilize my time and see the world." Does that set correct direction for all those who are jobless in Nepal? |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 10:42 AM
Another stupid explanation for his journey as he explains to his own Mother. (from WAVE Magazine) The plan is to see the world-150 countries-in 11 years on a bicycle. He wants to earn some name for his country, his village, his mother and himself. " He has a strong will to go, says he wants to see the world. I told him not to go leaving us behind. He said I shouldn't be discouraging him. 'I'll earn some name for myself,' he says, 'People will first remember you, then only me. 'So I gave up," Naram Kumari now prepares for yet another unpleasant change in her life. Tell me how many people in this world, and the people of those countries where Pushkar went know or remember about Naram Kumari? I really extremely feel sorry for his Mother. If he can say such a thing to his Own Mother... he can say anything to other people in Nepal and in Abroad to continue his journey. |
| learner_1 | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 02:48 PM
Yes, my calculation is based on the longest distance that I can measure on the map of each of those countries. Total distance came out as 16,750 km for all those countries visited after the first group of 21 countries with 28,500 kms. Yes, the actual bike path will be meandering and so the straight line distances will be under-estimated. Somewhere I read that Pushkar gave interview claiming 12000 kms travelling in USA before he went on to explore other countries from there. My calculation showed 5000 km for USA.. if he was doing up and down.. then double willbe 10,000 km and so his claim might be true about 12,000 km. Now in that process, to get correct value of the distance the calculated distance might have to be multiplied by 2 or so.. however, it is very unlikely that he has travelled 4,000*2 = 8,000 km in Canada alone. To me, even if we double 16,750 km to 33,500 km.. yet again 18,000 km appears to be deficit and it's hard to believe allthose claims. I would be quite happy to hear a sincere kms from Pushkar Shah, he doesn't need to emphasize or overstate on kms he biked... Visiting 150 countries with 100 Rs itself is a unduanted task he jumped in... Perhaps he thinks that if he had started this journey saying that he would visit 150 countries on bike, no one would be interested to fund his journey, coz then it would be merely a vacation. Onthe top of that it appears that to make it even more dramatic, he expected to enter his name into Guinness Records.. I guess that will not happen anymore I guess. It seems for the record to be entered in Guinness Records, it has to be breakable and it has potential to be broken in future... I don't think there will another person who will attempt 150 countries on bike covereing 390,000 kms in 11 years. Also, for Guinness Records when one is submitting the records, here, it is 390,000km, it has to be verifiable. There is no way to verify what distance Pushakr biked. So how can he get his name into the Guinness Records. |
| gunda | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 05:42 PM
Thanda Beer, please don't be another egghead Nepali who can not see the success of another fellow Nepali. How much money has he milked from you? Assume that I am him portege and I am collecting huge sums of cash for him, what's your problem with that? If you don't belive his ambition and don't support his cause, let me know how much money you contributed to his cause and I will triple the amount and return a check to you. I am serious, let me know. If you are not a cheap talk, ask yourself what have you done for Nepal, how much money or time have you given to a good cause. You seem to have a problem Pushkar's decision to leave his family and Nepal, you rather have him stay in Nepal and do nothing, right? Please don't be selfrighteous, ask yourself first, what mark have you left for your family and friends and for Nepal ? There are Nepalese who have left behind family and children for the USA, Europe and Middle East to better their livelihood. Pushkar keeps in touch with his family, his mother and wife looks after his son, what't your problem with that? It be wonderful if you would channel your energy to positive things rather than to this nonesense. |
| ashu | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 05:59 PM
I have never met Pushkar. But those of you who consider yourselves to be friends of Pushkar, why don't you, with Pushkar's permission, do an FAQ on Pushkar and post the answers here for all to see and read? Such an approach -- straight from Pushkar's mouth -- would DIRECTLY address the issues raised by some anonymous critics here. Sure, Pushkar may not come across as a saint, but so what? It's likely that he has changed, his plans have changed and that his ideas about himself and his ambitions have changed . . . and all that is to be expected. At any rate, let's get Pushkar's human dimension -- inhis own voice -- here instead of these increasingly anonymous carpings against him. I think I'll start a thread called "Khum Bahadur Khadka and $$$$" and see how many Pushkar-attackers feel as outraged about Khum Bahadur's milking money from the national treasury. I say that because somehow, for some people, it's very easy and psychologically satisfying to anonymously attack a guy on a bicycle on some crazy mission around the world. Wah wah!! oohi ashu |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 08:05 PM
The fact here is to make sure Puskar doesn't do deliberate mistake in the name of honest mistake. Remember the most popular scientist Prof Gupta of Chandigad University of India was caught for falsifying his discoveries (which is later known by "scientific Hoax or Hug wash") only after 10 years by an Autralian scientist. Gupta said it was few honest mistakes which was later proved to be deliberate attempt to earn name and fame. Puskar may be honest but his associates like Gunda are projecting his image beyoud possible boundaries. Looks like Gunda is the spokesperson for Puskar trying to protect the falsified datas. His attempt to scare people away by calling bad names or giving threats will encourage more people to join in with wide open eyes for the real truth. Right speech and right conduct are the best way to carry message of peace from the birth place of Gautam Buddha which Paskar claims to be doing so. |
| gunda | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 10:01 PM
Pipaldada, you seem to know who Pushkar is, what he should and should not do. and rather what he can achieve and what he cannot achieve? Who the fook are you? How many countries have you been moron? What kind of credential and expertise do you posses? You have right to raise the questions but there is a way to do it? Where is the scam that you are screaming about? I dare you to provide evidence to thousands of dollars that you claim he milked from Nepalese. Let me ask you again, how much have you contributed? Who are people who claim that they have been milked?? Provide name of individuals and organizations, and I will verify and deal with them in a professional manner. Yes, my intention to SadhaBochar and now you too if you continue this nonsense. Looks like you both need some humility. You probably haven't had this kind of experience, but trust me it has worked on lots of people. It will be a lesson that you will never forget and I will be happy to deliver it to you as well. Looks like some people can only understand through the hard way. Just because you can write does not mean you can write whatever you want against someone. I call you moron, because you are acting like one. What data I tried to falsify? Be specific, don't insult your own intellengence. I work with my hands and feet not so much with my mouth, that's why I can make you understand with my hands and legs bettter. We can square off our differences like a man, if you want. I dont know how to count all numbers and data and all that stuffs but I know what counts and what does not. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 10:31 PM
Gunda jee: What do you wanna prove here by saying "Let me ask you again, how much have you contributed? Who are people who claim that they have been milked?? Provide name of individuals and organizations, and I will verify and deal with them in a professional manner."? Don't try to talk like that even if you are handling Pushkar's accounts!!! Best thing for you is to keep quiet, if you are the really the one who is dealing Puhskar's money. Just keep quiet and keep the money rolling !! The more you talk more you will jeopardize Pushkar's Yatra. |
| Learner_1 | Posted
on 25-Aug-03 10:44 PM
Sorry for you my Dear Gunda coz you could not understand the significance of numbers.. but's that's OK. I am anonymous, you are anonymous and others in this thread are all anonymous. So do not expect to get any organizations or people's names who might have felt bitter after making contributions to Pushkar. Man, the way you are writing stuff here sounds only bluff not Pushkar's spokesperson, and so no one will write the real names here.. also the way youare talking madly without reasoning cannot extract any such information from other anonymous posters. Just boiling would not help you out. You have to be cool. The more you boil, the more damage you will do to your dimag. And ashu, Khum Bahadur is already under CIAA investigation.. and the crimes he has committed were in Nepal and Nepalese authorities are already taking care of that.. only question is whther he will be punished adequately. On the other hand, Pushkar's case is totally different one. Khum Bahadur is limited to Nepal and perhaps few neighboring countries... but Pushkar is going everywhere.. so stupid things Pushkar commits will tarnish Nepal's image in international arena.. |
| ashu | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 12:34 AM
>>>And ashu, Khum Bahadur is already under CIAA investigation.. No. It was, but no longer. CIAA, it is increasingly being clear, is staffed by a khattam and jhoor team of Nepali lawyers who CANNOT prove any of the charges they bring upon people such as Khum Bahadur. CIAA makes news ONLY when it raids people's houses. It seems to fail again and again and miserably -- on purely legal grounds -- when it starts proceedings against those whose house it raids. ***************** My point is simple: Instead of you guys going on and on about Pushkar based on your own doubts and suspicions, why can't you -- in all FAIRNESS to Pushkar -- ask him DIRECTLY what the deal is, and report his version to us? Sure, as per your allegations, Pushkar might not have played fairly, but why can't you guys -- with your superior education, your residence in North America ands your anonymous avatars -- play fair with him? If Pushkar does not want to talk to you about any of this, then, fine, report that to us too, and let us make up our own mind about Pushkar, without forcing your doubts and your suspicions down our collective throat, as though THE TRUTH about Pushhar -- or for that matter any human being -- were very simple and one-dimensional. If you really care about the truth (howsoever defined), how difficult is it for you guys to get Pushkar's own version too? What I strongly object to is your ANONYMOUS, one-sided, continuously vicious attack on Pushkar Shah -- who, for better or worse, is a known person -- WITHOUT any attempt to bring in Pushkar's own side to bear on the story here. I am NOT defending Pushkar here. I am saying -- quite bluntly -- that you guys have to raise your standard of criticism if you wish to be taken seriously. That's all. oohi ashu |
| sparsha | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 06:14 AM
Ashu says, "Instead of you guys going on and on about Pushkar based on your own doubts and suspicions, why can't you -- in all FAIRNESS to Pushkar -- ask him DIRECTLY what the deal is, and report his version to us? I am saying -- quite bluntly -- that you guys have to raise your standard of criticism if you wish to be taken seriously. That's all. .." Couldn't agree more. |
| Elizabeth | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 07:19 AM
My name is Elizabeth and I live in Hollywood, Florida. I met Pushkar Shah almost 2 years ago as he was cycling through Florida on his way to Cuba. We have been friends ever since. I have been following the comments on this thread and have chosen to remain silent until now because most of the statements are so ridiculous and outrageous as to not even merit an answer or explanation. As you can see, I am NOT anonymous because I have absolutely nothing to hide and some of you may already know me and can vouch for my credibility. First of all, let me clarify the issue of the bank account. Yes, there is a bank account. It was my suggestion that Pushkar open a bank account after he was robbed in Barbados last year and his wallet was stolen with all of his money and some of his identification. Pushkar is not on a luxury vacation staying at lavish hotels and spas. However, he does need money to cover his basic, daily expenses. It is not true that he is hosted free of charge everywhere. He cannot cross oceans on his bicycle and he has yet to score an airline sponsor, or for that matter, any corporate sponsor. I can tell you with 100% certainty that neither I nor anyone else is making one single penny from Pushkar or this miniscule bank account. I have a well paying job and if I had to rely on Pushkars fundraising, trust me Id starve to death! The reason the account was established was purely for security reasons. Pushkar cannot afford to lose the small amount of money he has and it just doesnt make sense for him to carry a wad of money in his pocket. He has a VISA checking card (NOT a credit card) tied in with the account so he can access his money at almost any ATM in the world and likewise, he can also deposit donations he collects along the way. I can also tell you that donations have not been rolling into this account as some claim. As a matter of fact since the account was opened more than 1 year ago, the only money that has been deposited in the account is what Pushkar has personally collected through individual donations. I know this as fact, since the account is also in my name (he could not open an account solely in his name because he does not have a social security card) and I receive all of the statements. I did this as a favor for a friend, nothing more and nothing less. I know that this is not a very interesting or glamorous explanation that some of you are fantasizing about; its the plain, boring truth. Whether or not you believe this explanation is your choice. ......continued |
| Elizabeth | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 07:20 AM
.....part 2 I visited Nepal this past December for almost 4 weeks. I had a wonderful time and experienced such warmth and hospitality in your beautiful country. I met Pushkars family and friends. I also met family and friends of Nepalese people who I have met and have come to be friends with here in South Florida and other areas of the U.S. Wherever I go now, I talk to people about my experiences in Nepal, what a beautiful country it is and how wonderfully warm and friendly the Nepalese people are. Many people I speak to do not even know where Nepal is --- well, they do now! They have seen my photos and heard my stories. My next door neighbor is one of those who had no idea where Nepal was and now she is planning to go there with her young son next spring. Many people I know send me articles and news clippings whenever they see something published about Nepal because they know I now have an interest&&.and now they have an interest and KNOWLEDGE. Before, they never would have even noticed. There are Nepalese families I have met in South Florida that I now consider good friends and they have told me that I am like part of their extended Nepalese family. All of these wonderful things happened to me because I opened up my home, my eyes and my mind to a fellow human being whose story caught my imagination. Pushkar is pursuing his dream. We all have different dreams and aspirations (hopefully). Our differences and diversity is what makes the world an interesting place in which to live, it does not make one person better than the next. Pushkar does not claim to be a saint or a god, hes just another guy doing what he believes he can do to make a positive difference in the world and that is what is important in his life right now. In my opinion, if nothing else, he is a great Good Will Ambassador for Nepal. Everyone does not have to agree with him or support him. I know that Pushkar has never demanded or forced anyone to give him money. If you choose not to give him money, thats fine and you should not feel guilty about it. If you have given him money and now regret it, I dont think you can blame anyone but yourself. If its bothering you so very much, Im sure he would refund your money if you asked him to. When you gave him the money, did you attach some conditions and tell him? Im sure not. Perhaps one day a company will offer a larger sponsorship to Pushkar, and then he will have to decide whether or not to meet their demands or conditions in exchange for the financial support. Until that time, Pushkar reports to nobody but himself because ultimately he has only himself to rely upon aside from the kindness and generosity of individuals he meets along the way who voluntarily support him for whatever reason. I hope this message will help clarify some questions and put an end to some of the vicious and untrue attacks against Pushkars credibility. Whether he cycles 10,000 or 100,000 kms is really irrelevant and unimportant. Maybe his initial goal of 150 countries in 11 years was a little overly ambitious so what? What matters is WHAT he is doing and not the statistics, not whether he can make the math add up to someone elses satisfaction, or whether he went by bicycle, car, taxi or on the back of a 3-legged donkey to a party. Regardless of whether or not he achieves all of the numbers, he is already a winner for himself personally by what he has been able to physically accomplish as well as for the many people whose hearts, minds and eyes he has opened. All of the ridiculous mathematical trivia, rumors and speculation Ive been reading on this thread sound more like stories from the National Enquirer than a forum of supposedly thoughtful and intelligent people. It would have been much more respectable and credible to have forwarded questions and/or concerns directly to Pushkar before publicly bashing him on this website. There is nothing wrong with posing relevant and intelligent questions and then you either believe or not believe in what Pushkar is doing. Either way is fine, but it really is not okay to attack his character and intentions as it serves no constructive purpose whatsoever. |
| learner_1 | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 07:38 AM
It's getting more intriguing now!!! |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 08:12 AM
Elizabeth, Did you say that you are not "anonymous"? Hmmmm.... By the way I know couple of Elizabeths in FL. Which one are you? But I believe that you are not 'Gunda' :-) And are you in some way associated with Nepalisite.com as well? .. coz Pushkar's account number is in that website. |
| john doe | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 09:47 AM
Elizabeth, all i can say is, THANK YOU!!! Hopefully what u've just said will stop the likes of Sadabichar, Thanda beer, Learner 1, and a few others from making even bigger jackasses of themselves than they already have. But then again, if jackasses ever realized how stupid they are, they wouldnt be jackasses in the first place, would they? I hear Puskar is in Florida right now. He doesnt have to, but maybe u could ask him if he'd like to answer some of the questions that have been raised here, just to set the record straight once and for all. |
| caliguy1 | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 10:57 AM
Who is Pushkar Shah? begger or politician? |
| lovaboy | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 11:26 AM
Elizabeth thx for taking time to give your version. My suggestion would be to let this matter to rest. People who are raising these irrelevant issues have not contributed dime to his quest and this has just been one of those time pass bs conversation to get some attention he/she lacked from mama when he/she was a kid. Justifying his mission.. There is no reason for him to justify his mission to anyone. If you have contributed, you have his email address so contact him directly and he will get back to you. If not then mind your own F$%^ing business and move on with your life. It is very upsetting to see these bull S#$T topic receive so much attention. No wonder why Nepal is in turmoil while the youth are engaged in some idiotic conversations what i call is useless "mental masterbation" |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 01:22 PM
Elizabeth: As much as I believe that you are helping Puskar with a clear conscience and maybe out of admiration of a fellow human being and not benefiting from the whole process, I still have my doubts about Puskar's intention. You helped him open a bank account in your town and I know for a fact that someone in my town did the same for he and he has a significant amount saved there for him to use in case of emergency. One would expect that in life threatening situations like the one in Mexico where he was left with no money he would at least try to make use of the fund and contact the people who could send him his fund. Instead he choosed to go about asking for more donations, which I find quick interesting. Yes, he certainly maybe facing hardship, but who does not? Even in our daily lives we face a lot of obstacles and when he is trying to go on a tour/adventure beyond his means, it is no surprise he is going to face more problems than normal. As much as I pity his plight sometimes, I still feel he could have done a lot more to be cautions and safe. It is true that everyone should have dream, Bin Laden has a dream, a dream to create a big Islam Nation in the middle east, that does not mean I am going to support his method of fulfilling his dream. I have a dream of buying an apartment in Manhattan for World Peace and to represent Nepal in New York, how many of you are going to support my dream and donate money for my cause? None. Similarly, Puskar has a dream and he is entitled to his dream, but I still don't agree with his method of pursuing his dream going about asking for donations. I don't really care about the fuzzy math, rumors or how long or how far he has traveled because it is not of significance to me. It is bad enough that our country is infamous for begging for donations and aids around the world, I don't want anyone else to exemplify it in every city in every nation. It does not help our country's image, if his intention is to introduce Nepal to the world, he is setting a bad precedence. Therefore I don't think his is a worthy cause. Puskar has chosen to put himself in the spotlight and has agreed to be showcased in various news and media outlet, therefore like any other celebrity he is going to be praised and criticized as well and as member of the public we have the right to voice our opinion, either good or bad. For anyone who says that if one has not contributed to Puskar's cause they should not voice their opinion, I hope you are paying San for voicing your opinion here on Sajha, if not your opinion is as irrelevant. For anyone else who thinks this is a bullshit topic and Nepal is in turmoil while the youth are engaged in some idiotic conversations like this one, maybe it is because the youth of Nepal are not able to voice their opinion that Nepal is in turmoil. Trying to suppress people from voicing their opinion just because you don't like it is counter productive. You can ignore it if you don't like it. I have the right to voice my opinion as much as you do. |
| john doe | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 03:10 PM
"It is true that everyone should have dream, Bin Laden has a dream, a dream to create a big Islam Nation in the middle east, that does not mean I am going to support his method of fulfilling his dream." Fine. Noone is saying u should support Pushkar. And u have the right to disagree with his views and voice your concerns. But lets not skew the facts and turn this whole thing into a dream vacation financed by donated money, shall we? Some other people here, including yourself to a certain extent, have even gone so far as to claim that this could be a money-making scam! Thats a good one! You guys would make the National Enquirer proud. Maybe one day Pushkar will publish an account of his journey and maybe he will devote an entire chapter to his cash flow. Should make quite an interesting read to some of us who cant get over this monetary stumbling block. Until then, lets give him the benefit of the doubt, shall we? After all, as Elizabeth pointed out, bicycles dont travel over oceans and airplane fares dont come cheap. And I'm not surprised u had to call on Bin laden himself to support your argument. Sex it up any way u want, but your point just doesnt hold water. "It is bad enough that our country is infamous for begging for donations and aids around the world, I don't want anyone else to exemplify it in every city in every nation. It does not help our country's image, if his intention is to introduce Nepal to the world, he is setting a bad precedence. Therefore I don't think his is a worthy cause." This is another example where u have the facts wrong. Pushkar is NOT going to these cities around the world to beg for money. Yes, sizable Nepali communities at mostly North American metropolises have invited him to thieir town and offered to help him with his cause, solely out of love and respect for a fellow countryman who has the cojones to start out on a journey as preposterous as his without even a single corporate sponsor. He is doing what he truly believes in, and the diasporic community has been generous enough to help him out with a couple of bank accounts and a few odd donations. To say that he is going around the world begging for money couldnt be further from the truth. If I wanted to beg for money with a Nepali flag and a bicycle, Mexico would be the last place I would go. |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 03:13 PM
Pusker is a now trying to be a national hero who has wide media coverage. we people are ordinary people. What we do and what we don't nobody cares. If Puskar makes bogus statements or his associates help him to write his stories or edits or covers his bank accounts much beyond imagination to make him a superstar cycle hero of Nepal, then Puskar has to face the criticism. As for the statement "whether he cycles 10,000 or 100,00 kms is really irrelevant", that is total nonesence because that is the whole media coverage of his achivements and the main reason of begging for money and support. The mathematical trivia was generated by Puskar himself or whoever helped him to create his website showing how much distances he has covered and so on. The questions were raised when it seemed not possible and certainly it is matter of interest to everyone of us to know how did he do it. Regarding the vicious attacks just go over few postings here, whether friends of Puskar or critics of puskar have used foul and disrespectful language in the posting although it is against the sajha.com regulation. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 03:19 PM
Sikhar, but I do care about the so called fuzzy maths related to all those kilometers discussed here. Of course if you ask people to donate money for your dream to buy an apartment in Manhattan and that apartment will reperesent Nepal... No one will contribute to you a dime. Similarly, in Pushkar's case, had he asked for help for his visits to 150 countries to represent Nepal and to spread peace message, probably not a dime would have come. In the first place, there was no need to spread the peace message anymore here in this earth.. everybody's facing difficulties related to security issues whether be it in USA or third nation countries. Taking message of peace to various countires has no charm at all... at least you all guys agree on this. But Pushkar initiated that crap by adding some flavors in it.. saying that he will spread message to 150 countries in 11 years.. then on the top of that he would bike, upto that point sounds still OK although no one would be doing so.. but justifying the mission biking for 11 years didn't sound nice. Then, yet again he added another lucky charm in his pursuit, that is, biking 390,000 kms. That's why that six digit number is very vital issue... It seems most of the pple here are writing from USA... and it seems they have probably good impression from Pushkar.. or they are not telling exactly how they feel about Pushkar sincerely for being scared of what other poeple might have think about them. Well, at least here in Canada, when Pushkar came.. there is not much evidence that he really crossed the Trans-Canada Highway entirely on BIKE. After losing and bike in New Zealand or so, he went back to nepal. Then he came to Canada. The entry point was Vancouver. He might have got some contacts of nepalese in Vancouver from Nepal itself... but then he arrived in Calgary from Vancouver. He didn't contact anyone in Calgary before he arrived here. Nobody in Calgary even knew who was pushkar then. But well, that's his tactics. Suddenly, he appeared in Calgary local TV news. There was a phone number to contact to get hold of him.. at that time he was staying at one kuire's house who brought him from Canmore to Calgary. Canmore - Calgary is slightly less than 1 hour drive. Then only Nepalese over immediately called that number and brought him into their house. Then starts his ram kahani... he was saying no nepali in Vancouver even cared that he was visiting in Vancouver. That story is yet to be verified. However, he stayed in Calgary for almost 15 days.. every nite he was invited to nepalese house for dinner. There was this first nepali guy who contacted him and asked him to come to his house... he said he will come, but on bike after rejecting the ride offered to him. He said "If i ride a car, then what the use of taking this oath of biking and spreading the peaace message" The guy who inivited got so impressed, he had garlands ready when he reached his house.. This is how he created the first impression.. thinking that first impression's last impression. But then after from second day onwards, he went on car to every invitations. Everyday people used to go and meet him.. and listen to his story. But there was no evidence that he really came to Calgary by biking only. He used to say, it is very hard to travel liek this and told that proabbly he would maximum go upto USA.. and then after he maynot be able to complete what he had vowed. Well, then soja nepalis started donating like a hell in Calgary.. from each household more than $100 poured. And he managed to collect probably more than $3000.. coz there are more than 40 families in Calgary. When he was here, no one really suspected him.. it was only afterwards, people were wondering what's this crap about? From Calgary he went to east, perhaps via Saskatchewan, Manitoba and then to Ontario finally reaching Toronto. But the tactics was same whenever he reached the cities in these provionces... people in each city gave him Nepalese in the next city he was heading to.. but, he never informs them in the new city he is reaching... so that no one can tracking him down. Tran-Canada Highway is pretty long one almot more than 6000 kms. But there is no evidence that he crossed this highway to reach Toronto. Had he informed the poeple of the City he is reaching.. at least people would have come to join him, at least for his safety, as he approached that city. But well, the tactics is gold, why would he inform. Probably, in USA, he could not do so, perhaps. But in Canada... there is vast sunsan stretched of highways between Vancouver and calgary, Calgary and Regina, Regina and Manitoba, Manitoba and Toronto.. But USA is densely populated with Cities near to each other, and there are Nepalese in everywhere, and thus pushkar didn't have to do hanky panky there. Why shoudl he do, when the people are so nice to him stretching helping hands everywhere. People have suspected that he must have travelled by bus upto Canmore, just before reaching Calgary. Got down there, and then made a story that his bike broke..and that's how he hitched hiked on a truck from there the Calgary. Dear friends, there have been hina mina in kms while biking in Canada. That's why there is no mention about his travel through Canada anywhere. That part is missing in his diary published in WAVE or thamel.com or nepalisite.com What' the reason behind it. The more delay in publsihing that part is done, the more suspicion will occur that data is being cooked. Therefore, the mexico happening, Pushkar might be taking ride in that truck... and later he made up that story. Otherwise it is very hard to believe that he could remember the lorry number. |
| kool_dude | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 05:29 PM
With complementary song...(Please turn the "Bacha ra bacna deu" -Peace |
| ashu | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 05:53 PM
ELizabeth writes: "It would have been much more respectable and credible to have forwarded questions and/or concerns directly to Pushkar before publicly bashing him on this website. There is nothing wrong with posing relevant and intelligent questions and then you either believe or not believe in what Pushkar is doing. Either way is fine, but it really is not okay to attack his character and intentions as it serves no constructive purpose whatsoever." Very well said, Elizabeth, whoever you are . . . very well said. Without the other side of the story, there is really NOTHING here but one-sided attacks, doubts and suspicions . . . all of which do NOT -- N-O-T -- add up to the truth howsoever defined. On a larger note, if I may share this: Over the years, I have learnt to TRAIN my mind NOT to believe any vicious criticism/attack/gaali that I hear from a Nepali against another Nepali, WITHOUT first carefully, patiently looking at ALL sides of the story. Usually, people are just petty, and their pettiness need NOT cloud one's judgement about other people. When a Nepali gets viciously emotional, it's so easy, you see, to lose one's judgment and get swept up in the contagion of hatred and anger and bad feelings. I have seen this happen so many times to so many people in and out of Nepal that it's pretty sad!! If my LIMITED experience is any guide, what I have repeatedly found is that those Nepalis who seem to have achieved something (anything) in life appear to cause much envy, jealousy, resentment and even suspicions among others who then become medically obsessive about giving nothing but gaali to the achievers. But, hey, that's the way life goes . . . as long as one doesn't let vicious gaali get one down and not let praise to get going. oohi ashu |
| learner_1 | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 06:09 PM
So how many accounts Pushkar has in USA? Shikhar, was that account opened in your town joint account or pushkar's individual account? Elizabeth, what's this crap about? How can you open a joint account like that with him? Either you have to be spouse of Pushkar or you and Pushkar shall have joint business venture (company) in opeartion to open a joint bank account. It's already a hard thing to get account opened for pushkar as him being tourist there in USA. Don't you think the Bankers will be bewildered when you go and tell them 'Look, this guy is in a world tour, spreading message of peace, carrying soil from Lumbini, and he will be travelling all around in the world. And he is getting donations here in USA.. so the donations must be deposited into the bank account, and he can use his credit card where ever in the world he will be going. Money is his, but I will be the joint partner of that account. So that I can manage his money well." Now does that sounds credible? If pushkar shah has already got bank accont in other towns, why he needs to keep on opening new accounts in other cities as well? Probably Pushkar is true when he keeps on saying "To know new friends it is a reason not to have as much nostalgia. Every day I have a new family ". Make a new family and create more accounts. |
| learner_1 | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 06:20 PM
And thanks goes to Elizabeth (or whoever) for revealing the true story of that account stuff. At least we got the truth, if that's really a truth. But I know you are not Kuire!!!!! |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 07:00 PM
> lets not skew the facts and turn this whole thing into a dream vacation financed by donated money, shall we? - from - http://www.thamel.com/puskar/ "a man started 11 yrs. journey to capture his dream," and obviously he is not financing it with his only money but soliciting donations from everyone .. so that is what it is.... I dunno what else you want to call it. > And I'm not surprised u had to call on Bin laden himself to support your argument. Sex it up any way u want, but your point just doesnt hold water. - maybe I should call him Enron and everyone who is trying to coverup for him Anderson Consulting. Too bad they are no longer around thanks to some "shady accounting". >To say that he is going around the world begging for money couldnt be further from the truth. - link to where I said he was "begging" for money. >If I wanted to beg for money with a Nepali flag and a bicycle, Mexico would be the last place I would go. - I really don't care how you want to beg for money or how anyone else would want to beg for money, it is irrelevant here, this thread is not about you. What I am concerned here is the fact that Pushkar claims to be cycling around the world to promote world peace and for Nepal and has been soliciting donations, but based on the facts that I know and those provided on this forum, I doubt his claims and intentions and wanted to share my doubt and questions with other Nepalese. Not a single "supporter" of Puskar has provided any fact to quell my doubts here except for some threats, "shut ups" and "trust me on this". Sorry, I am not that gullible. I didnot believe President Bush where he told everyone to "trust him on the fact that he started the war in Iraq because Saddam's WMD were a threat to the world". Now it is down to "Saddam may have had a weapons program". I am seeing a similar tactics here. |
| jyapuu | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 07:03 PM
For the record, I opened one bank account for Mr. Puskhar here in Mid West City. He has about $3000 on this account. Statement comes to my house and seems like he hasn't used this account for a long time...hummm about 5 mnts. Well, I really don't know his motive behind this cycling tour but when he first came to town and uttered his story..it sounded good. Bottom line is everyone is entitled to their opinion. If someone agress to what Mr. Shah is doing and feels like donating some "dooo" feel free to do it and if someone thinks, he is a con-artist then, don't donate. Plain and simple. I must say it's great that ppl are expressing positive and negative views about this trip on this thread. This is educational. Keep it up. FootNote: I did donate about $300 dollars and "Gunda" pls, don't send me that money back. You can donate that somewhere else. I regret donating that money. .. I sould have send that to "maiti nepal" but it's never late.. |
| gunda | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 07:13 PM
There arebunch of looser here posting rubbish and NO your lies is not going to prevent me from standing for whati is right. I would love to meet you guys face to face so that I could pound you blow by blow. Any takers?? |
| learner_1 | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 07:21 PM
Ashu, What makes you so confident that Elizabeth is not an anonymous poster in this thread? We understand you don't give any value to criticisms against Pushkar by anonymous posters... but on the other hand, you praised the anonymous poster for writing in favor of Pushkar (possibly to cover-up the scam). You have been educated in US... and you know that Kuires don't understand how a nepali dimag works ( I mean sinister acts such as this one). Only a nepali can understand that. To kuire, pushkar's world tour might sound sunsunkhej. But when we talk with Pushkar then only we can look deep into his mind, and understand what's the attitude of him that evolved this tour. Holy Cow, looks like that there are so many accounts around USA for Pushkar. Jyapuu, enlighten us, if that account you are talking about is also a joint account between you and Pushakr, or it's solely his account but the statements come to your address, and you go through the statements just to see how it is doing? |
| ashu | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 07:54 PM
>>>>What makes you so confident that Elizabeth is not an anonymous poster in this thread? We understand you don't give any value to criticisms against Pushkar by anonymous posters... but on the other hand, you praised the anonymous poster for writing in favor of Pushkar (possibly to cover-up the scam). <<<<< All I am saying is this: Let Pushkar's version too come to the fore, preferably from his own mouth. Surely, if his attackers can find out about his bank accounts, they can also find ways to contact him directly and ask him questions, hoi na ta? In this public forum, where it's very hard tell who is advancing what agenda for what purposes, until we have Pushkar's side of the story, let us NOT mistake repeated, one-sided doubts and suspicions and attacks -- no matter how compelling they may be to some people -- as THE TRUTH about Pushkar. That's my point. And by saying "It would have been much more respectable and credible to have forwarded questions and/or concerns DIRECTLY [emphasis added] to Pushkar before publicly bashing him on this website", Eliazebeth -- whoever s/he is -- echoes my concern, and to that I said: "very well said." Look, I could care less what Pushkar Shah is up to. My point is that even if he's indeed a scam artist, we -- the readers -- DESERVE, in the name of fairness, to hear his side of the story FIRST and then make up our own mind about him rather than being dragged on to make harsh judgements about him based on doubts and suspicions and a few unsavory anecdotes here and there. Surely, we can accord that much civility to Pushkar, can't we? oohi ashu |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 08:06 PM
Ashu: >> All I am saying is this: Let Pushkar's version too come to the fore, preferably from his own mouth. Surely, if his attackers can find out about his bank accounts, they can also find ways to contact him directly and ask him questions, hoi na ta? - Ashu, you are assuming that none of the poster here have met Pushkar or have heard his "exciting" stories directly from him. Well for one I have met Pushkar personally and have heard some of his "stories" first hand and based on everything I have heard and seen I still doubt his intentions. This thread has both his supporters and attackers who are expressing their opinions. Since you want to hear his side of the story, maybe you should locate him and contact him directly and ask him questions, hoi na ta? |
| jyapuu | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 08:15 PM
learner_1, it's his sole account and i have no part in it. Not at all. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 09:12 PM
Elizabeth wrote: "As a matter of fact since the account was opened more than 1 year ago, the only money that has been deposited in the account is what Pushkar has personally collected through individual donations. I know this as fact, since the account is also in my name (he could not open an account solely in his name because he does not have a social security card) and I receive all of the statements." So how come this account in FL is in Elizabeth's name as well? Whereas, in other Cities the accounts were opened solely on Pushkar's name !!!!!! To have a joint account, I guess,it requires both persons to be related to each other as spouses or business partners.. I am not really sure how it works in USA with regards to such joint accounts opening? Or has Pushkar got again married there in FL or what? Remember, he has a whole family back in Nepal with wife and 4-year son. As John doe wrote above that he heard that Pushakr is again back in FL from Mexico.. is that true? If yes, then what's this all about of him to again and again coming back to USA after visiting one or two countries in Central America? In Calgary, he used to tell his stories among the Nepalese and always make sure tell his story about him almost being getting married in Hongkong with a chinese lady there, teh lady was rich and so on.. and he used to say, he sacrificed such a offer to continue the journey. He thinks he scarficed such opporunity to continue the journey... I get intesely irritated to hear such things from his MOUTH. |
| sadabichar | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 10:00 PM
I must commend all the people here in this forum, who wrote raising doubts and who defended or clarified those doubts. Doubts are the first step to reach TRUTH. It is the instinct that creates doubts in our minds, when things don't fit well. All these doubts rose, when Nepalisite.com started a thread here in sajha.com asking for donations with the report of Pushkar being robbed in Mexico. The story is quite hard to swallow for many of those whose instincts naturally make them ask "is it really true?". And yet, Nepalisite.com is still numb. Well, it shoudl not entertained the doubts raised here.. coz this is the place where mostly anonymous posters bring forth their views. But whoever read postings here, are for sure not anonymous to themselves. It's upto them what to read and what not to read, and to what degree they shouls be serious about the postings. Well, people did raise all doubts reagading the authenticity of the story. Some suggested even to find ways to verify his story if it really fits in terms of time and space as mentioned in the story. Probably we should be doing that.. since already much work has been carried out by people here to come up with the total distances Pushkar might have biked so far in varous countries, and how the big numbers like 80,000 kms might be far from reality. People from Canada are still suspicious if Pushkar really peddled across the Trans-Canada from Vancouver to Toronto ( I think he went up to Montreal, I might be wrong). Dark still prevails when details ( at least in short form) about his travel were never put in various websites, whereas much more details have already been featured by those magazines and websites. And the information on Pushkar's accounts in all over the places in USA is slowly revealing. But that's just the beginning. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 10:06 PM
Correction: People from Canada are still suspicious if Pushkar really peddled across the Trans-Canada from Vancouver to Toronto ( I think he went up to Montreal, I might be wrong). Dark still prevails since the details ( at least in short form) about his travel across Canada were never put in various websites and magazines, whereas much more details on his travel in countries Pushkar visited after leaving Canada have already been featured by those magazines and websites . |
| nepalisite | Posted
on 26-Aug-03 11:48 PM
Hello Sada--- Incident was reported to us through reliable sources. Actually it was reported first on his website. Then Ireceived other updates through different reliable sources. Phone number was/is also listed on the website and also his email. So you can ask or discuss anything directly to him (Pushkar). You can also call him if you are so unhappy. I am sure he will be happy to answer your questions. I know you have already sent an email to him. For those who thinks that Elizabeth is anonymous--She is a real person. Thats her real name. You can call her as well if you have any questions.. ------------ Instead of wasting time here---you could call and your questions/doubts will be answered. So pick up your phone and make that call. |
| ashu | Posted
on 27-Aug-03 02:38 AM
>>>>>Since you want to hear his side of the story, maybe you should locate him and contact him directly and ask him questions, hoi na ta? <<<<< No. As a Sajha visitor reading this thread, my concern is NOT what Pushkar does or does not do. As a Sajha visitor reading this thread, my concern is this: If you must attack him, and attack him anonymously and repeatedly in public by attributing all sorts of motives and schemes to him, then AT LEAST play fair by putting out his version of the story too (current edition) . . . from his own mouth so that readers can decide for themselves what kind of person Pushkar is or is not and let them decide whether your criticisms carry weight or not. That's all. The truth, I suspect, may be a lot more complicated than what you guys are letting on, but frankly I don't know, and that's why I, for one, would like to hear Pushkar's side too. Look, I am NOT quibbling over details. I am merely pushing for a principle, and that is: All people (even so-called khattam people), when attacked in public, deserve a chance to present their side of the story in public, and that let's not deny Pushkar that opportunity before you guys continue to slam him again and again through doubts and suspicions. Until then, I, as a reader, am withholding all judgements on Pushkar Shah, and would request others to do the same too. And, you know what, one doesn't have to be a friend or an enemy of Pushkar to adopt a in-principle-let's-play-fair position like this. Tetti ho. oohi ashu |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 27-Aug-03 06:25 AM
Ashu: >> I think I'll start a thread called "Khum Bahadur Khadka and $$$$" and see how many Pushkar-attackers feel as outraged about Khum Bahadur's milking money from the national treasury. - I am sure you are going to contact Khum Bahadur Khadkha and ask him to defend your allegations here, right? >>If you must attack him, and attack him anonymously and repeatedly in public - I don't know you personally and have never met you and don't even intend to research your personal life, therefore I only know you as Ashu, a Sajhaite. For all that matters, you posting as Ashu is as good as any poster posting here anynomously. I don't judge a poster by the degree of their anonymity but the content of their postings. The beauty of Sajha, for all I care, is to be able to voice your opinion without having to drag your personal life into it, unless you choose to do so. >>when attacked in public, deserve a chance to present their side of the story in public, and that let's not deny Pushkar that opportunity before you guys continue to slam him again and again through doubts and suspicions. - Sorry for tying him up and "denying him his right" to present his side of they story. As much as I doubt his motives neither I nor anyone here have denied anyone else from voicing their opinion. Everyone is free to present their opinion here. There are other sides dedicated soley to present his side of the story. If you are really curious, feel free to visit those sites. I am neither representing him or his critics. I am merely voicing my opinion, take it or leave it. |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 27-Aug-03 05:14 PM
I see no reason why anybody should make a personal phone call to Puskar and find out about his side of the story. Because of his personal website informations (which is his side of the story) and his personal views expressed to many people during personal meetings with him at various locations, we are now raising eyebrows about what he said before milking dollars at various locations and what he really did are not matching even to a close. Stories from National Enquirer are no match to his dubious adventurous tales of encounters with bandits and thugs to milk more dollars from the innocent individuals. Thanks to Darsankancha for revealing Calgary visit. Of course we are interested to know if Puskar did travel on the back of a 3-legged donkey or peddled in the oceans to stretch his celebrity distances. Presenting the true geographical figures of the countries Puskar claimed to have visited in order to correct the eyes of the celebrity to fraudulense distances he claimed to have covered has been done in this forum by various people. It is now Puskar's turn to speak out in this forum and make it clear to all the questions raised. This should include Puskar's associates claim that most of the cities he visited only contributed few hudreds dollars only. Really??? and Americans were more generous and supportive than the Nepalese. Please read Darsankancha's posting about Puskar's visit to Calgary . Also note How generous Nepalese were and How generous Jyapuu was to help him open an account for Puskar not just Elijabeth in Florida. |
| ashu | Posted
on 27-Aug-03 05:47 PM
>>>>Ashu: >> I think I'll start a thread called "Khum Bahadur Khadka and $$$$" and see how many Pushkar-attackers feel as outraged about Khum Bahadur's milking money from the national treasury. - I am sure you are going to contact Khum Bahadur Khadkha and ask him to defend your allegations here, right? Answer: For your infomation, Nepali newspapers -- with their non-anonymous, editors-taking-final responsibility for reporting -- have done the job of reporting on Khum Bahadur. I have also read Khum Bahadur's side of the story too. So that's that. ******* >>If you must attack him, and attack him anonymously and repeatedly in public - I don't know you personally and have never met you and don't even intend to research your personal life, therefore I only know you as Ashu, a Sajhaite. For all that matters, you posting as Ashu is as good as any poster posting here anynomously. I don't judge a poster by the degree of their anonymity but the content of their postings. Answer: Using anonymity to post a short story or a travel narrative is one harmless thing. But using anonymity to repeatedly attack a known person's character/motives and intents in public -- without letting the readers see the other side of the story and through only your doubts and suspicions -- is something more sinister. I, for one, am not going to kneel down to such bullying, and would urge others not to submit so easily too, regardless of what one thinks of Pushkar. I don't care about anonymity per se, but, as a visitor, would like to see anonymity not be ABUSED to settle scores and get even with people one doesn't like or get disappointed with. If you really want to badmouth Pushkar, my request to you is this: Take full identifiable responsibility for your bad mouthing, do so in your own name, take the risks, face the music and bite the bullet, as it were. If you are telling the truth, there's nothing for you to be afraid of, hoina ta ta? Else, all your anonymous one-sided attacks amount to nothing more than slander, and let's be very CLEAR about the fact that slander does NOT equal the truth. (Let's learn fro recent history too: As past Sajha postings have shown: Anonymity can be great when discussing your trip to Geneva, but it is a very weak weapon when you try to take on a known person.) Look, I have no trouble accepting that Pushkar Shah may NOT be a saint, and may be a complex person for reasons that can't easily be deciphered and explained. But so what? If you read biographies/profiles of cyclists such as Lance Armstrong and others, they too come across as complex and convoluted characters who add, well, colour and fun -- temporarily -- to our lives in their own ways. Let's enjoy the color and fun folks like Pushkar Shah add to our lives without mistaking them for moral models and agents of heaven. That's all. oohi ashu |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 27-Aug-03 06:15 PM
Here is another excerpt from Pushkar's dairy posted in WAVE Magazine which clearly demonstrate his sinister concept of "money" according which he now believes that there are places on this world where he can find and mine and amass money without much efforts or any hardworks. I am sure he means USA where he successfully had numerous bank accounts created under his name. !!! This is what And see how he lies to people he meet around the world. "Lie" factor or FATAHA nature was inherent when I met him and how can that be gone away from him anyhow so quickly no matter how many countries he might have visited. Sometimes who have not met Pushkar may find it hard to swallow what I am talking about here. Similary, the foreigners might not be able to detect what we nepalese can detect in him no matter how much they talk with him. - http://www.wavemag.com.np/2003/june/pushkar.shtml These are his own words!!!! February 10, 2002 Roystons sister Sanya drops me to the airport. On the way, she asks me a lot of questions concerning my family background, my country. I lie at times and speak truthfully at others (other times); I dont know how much she believed. I check in my luggage and we go for coffee at the airports café. We talk more. Though I have only known her for two days, it feels like we have always known each other. She wants to help me and offers to give me some money. Oh ho, money? , I exclaim as I laugh. She asks me, Why, dont you need money? I tell her, I need money, but I dont love it. Otherwise, instead of being here with you, I would be sitting in a place where money grows like plants and I would count money everyday, and fold money every night . At this, she laughs aloud. Right at that moment, Brookes comes rushing towards our table. I introduce Brookes as my sister- Sanya looks confused. Brookes plays along with it and adds that though our father is the same, our mothers are different. I add, My father, a British mercenary, met Brookes mother in London and married her . Soon, it is time for me to leave. For the company and the fun-filled talk, Sanya pays me USD 100 and asks me if it is too muchI teasingly reply, I can carry that much . I wave my nakkali didi and my sakkali saathi goodbye and board the plane destined to Barbuda and Antigua, where Valerie waits for me. |
| gunda | Posted
on 27-Aug-03 06:27 PM
People, there is no use pay any attention to these two scumbags SadhaBichar and Pipal Dada. These two are same as one. These two scumbags are parasites to the good name of the Sajha.com and Nepal. There are far more important and interesting issues and insights to be discussed and explored here than their bastardized views. Where are the monitors of this discussion forum, there should be some standards here. These people dont care about Nepal or Nepalese. Where were these two scumbags when Tibetan Community along with Ethical travel in the US called a boycott for Nepal on the San Francisco Chronicle? Where were these ass holes when Garment Bill got withdrawn from the US senate? These scumbags didnt even utter a word of protest or defended Nepals positions and rights. These ass holes dont care about Nepal. They don't deserve any time. They have nothing better to do. There is no need to further this discussion. Let them drawn on their own lies and deceptions. Thank you.. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 27-Aug-03 06:45 PM
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sadabichar Posted on 08-20-03 8:46 AM ''have written quite a lot in the thread given below. All the numbers related to his coverage of the world on bike seems questionable.. I am quite surprised to hear that in a single city in US he could scour US$5000.. that's fantastic. This guy is now travelling with the credit card in his pocket, and he has bank account in USA's Bank of America. In his diary, he mentions that he visited 21 US states.. don;t know exactly how many cities... If 5000US$ from one city.. then he must have raised a great deal of money from USA. My hunch is, he must have amassed at least US$30,000. And remember, he hardly spends that money for food, he always looks out for sponsoring family in every city he visits for free food and lodging. '' Dear Sadabichar , There is some Pushkar's fund information for your record . ''maahagunda'' Dear Friends, Life is a journey; it has a beginning and an end; what happens in between, is anybodys guess. It certainly is filled with some highs and lows, some ups and downs. Pushkar Shah embarked on such journey on his bike about five years ago from Nepal and has logged over 54,000 miles, traveling 51 countries, all in the name of peace and solidarity, on a global scale. His goal is to bike through 150 countries in 11 years, and is getting closer to achieving that. Every body loves and desires peace. Yet, peace is becoming a rare commodity, an endangered species, day by day. Therefore, Pushkar has taken up the mission to spread the message of peace and harmony around the globe. In his own words: there exists only one world, one family under a big sky. Pushkar Shah, a member of the Lion Club in Nepal, is currently on his way to South America, via Mexico. His travel itinerary can be accessed at www.pushkarshah.com . On behalf of Nepalese Association of Houston (NAH), we deeply appreciate Pushkar Shah for stopping by Houston, and sharing his thoughts and experiences gained through his bike tour of 51 countries in an enjoyable, thought provoking discussion, on Saturday July 26. NAH greatly appreciates Mr. Pradhumna Shrestha and Mrs. Sangina Shrestha, for kindly hosting Pushkar Shah in Houston. Thank you all for participating in the welcome event and making generous donations to Pushkar for a noble cause. NAH has contributed $50(fifty) to Pushkar Shah Fund. We will be posting the pictures from the event on the NAH web site www.houstonnepalese.org soon. Best regards, Rajendra Shrestha President, NAH |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 27-Aug-03 10:06 PM
Gunda jee:... You may continue writing with your signature name "Gunda".. I don't see any point writing with newly created name "Maahagunda" Both of your above postings doesn't contribute anything to refute the "lies" as explained by Pushkar himself in his Dairy. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 27-Aug-03 10:33 PM
Here is another proof: - http://www.wavemag.com.np/2003/april/pushkar.shtml This is an excerpt from the above publications: In San Juan, he realises he has a promise to keep. He has to call his friend in Hong Kong. His 'I-will-wait-for-you' friend. His supporter. When he left her at the Hong Kong International Airport, she gave him money. It's not for you , she had said, It's for calling me from every new place you go to. She said she loved him. She said she wanted to marry him. She said a lot of things. But when he told her to buy a cycle and come with him, she didn't say anything. She said nothing. It is something he remembers all the time. Like a poultice. When i told these things I heard from his mouth, sajhaites wants prrof. So this is the proof for you guys!!! |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 07:27 AM
O oooooi Sada jyu, Did you find where was Pushkar raise 5000$$$$.I mean that.Please search that also and give the proof for your supporter.Big mc . |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 07:41 AM
For the record, it's not me who projected that $5000.. somebody projected that figure in this thread.. so, dear MaahaGunda, pls read the thread carefully from top to bottom. But people have reported even up to $3000, so $5000 could be a very possible figure.. that's what I said. However, you better concentrate on the excerpts of dairy's and magazine reports. Such as this: This is an excerpt from the above publications: In San Juan, he realises he has a promise to keep. He has to call his friend in Hong Kong. His 'I-will-wait-for-you' friend. His supporter. When he left her at the Hong Kong International Airport, she gave him money. "It's not for you", she had said, "It's for calling me from every new place you go to." She said she loved him. She said she wanted to marry him. She said a lot of things. But when he told her to buy a cycle and come with him, she didn't say anything. She said nothing. It is something he remembers all the time. Like a poultice. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 07:45 AM
I wonder how much he remembers his family, specially wife and 4-year old kid !!! While we can imagine he must be using the donation money to trunk-call his (****)friend without fail everytime whereever he goes. This girl is still waiting for him re. And he says he remembers all the time re. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 07:57 AM
Sadabichar ji, Where do you searching from?Do you still remember your matribhasha ?What was Pushkar said . "Haami thulo manchey hoina, asal manchey banna sikaun, kinaki hamro desh lai kehi asal manchey haru ko khaancho chha. " You don't understand this Nepali word.This two lines is enough for you, if you are real Nepali ko chhora.''Hai bhane Nepali nabhanan ..... |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 08:10 AM
Pushkar said this in that WAVE magazine: Haami thulo manchey hoina, asal manchey banna sikaun, kinaki hamro desh lai kehi asal manchey haru ko khaancho chha. Is he an "Asal" manchhe then? He often lies to people he meets around the world about his himself and perhaps about Nepal he wastes the donation money making phone-calls to Hongkong, we know that he wrote that in some country he went pennyless, so the money he got in HK for making phonecalls must have been drained out he forgets about his wife but remember someone else he met for hardly 15 days.. He still remembers to call her. He creates bank accounts everywhere in USA He goes back to USA again and again.. for the past more than 2 years his life is busy in sticking to USA He saw places where money grows in plants, and in the day time he can collect the money, and by the night time he can fold and tuck it in the coffer. He doesn't seem truthful about the distances he biked. He goes to jail in various countries (in China for sure) he visits by breaking the laws over there He makes fire in the jungle without knowing if he should do such in an unknown place which could destroy entire jungle and risk people living in the vicinity the list goes on... |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 08:19 AM
>> Answer: For your infomation, Nepali newspapers -- with their non-anonymous, editors-taking-final responsibility for reporting -- have done the job of reporting on Khum Bahadur. I have also read Khum Bahadur's side of the story too. So that's that. If you are not going to contact KBK and ask him to defend your allegations about him here, don't ask us to contact Puskar to report his side of the story either. I are not here to satisfy your curiosity, I am merely voicing my opinion. There are a number of websites dedicated to report Puskar's side of the story. You maybe visit those sites. ******* >> But using anonymity to repeatedly attack a known person's character/motives and intents in public -- without letting the readers see the other side of the story and through only your doubts and suspicions -- is something more sinister. - Shame on me for stopping the reader from reading or writing "the other side" of the story and blocking their access to all the other websites dedicated to Puskar's journey. >> I, for one, am not going to kneel down to such bullying, and would urge others not to submit so easily too, regardless of what one thinks of Pushkar. - Again shame on me for pointing a gun to your head and "bullying" you to click this topic and reading my posts. If you don't want to read my posts just IGNORE it. This is a public forum, no one here can force anyone to do anything against there will. >> I don't care about anonymity per se, but, as a visitor, would like to see anonymity not be ABUSED to settle scores and get even with people one doesn't like or get disappointed with. - You need to know the difference between voicing ones opinion and settling scores. Puskar is a public figure and I have every right to voice my opinion about him. >> If you really want to badmouth Pushkar, my request to you is this: Take full identifiable responsibility for your bad mouthing, do so in your own name, take the risks, face the music and bite the bullet, as it were. If you are telling the truth, there's nothing for you to be afraid of, hoina ta ta? - Are you trying to "BULLY" me into submiting my name. Just becuase you post under your name does not me I have to do so too. Nice try once again, but I am not falling for that trap. Have you heard the story of The Fox With His Tail Cut off, here is the link - http://www.rickwalton.com/folktale/50fabl25.htm - maybe you should read it. >> Else, all your anonymous one-sided attacks amount to nothing more than slander, and let's be very CLEAR about the fact that slander does NOT equal the truth. - link to where I claim that my views were anything else but MY VIEWS and OPINIONS. Take it or leave it. >> (Let's learn fro recent history too: As past Sajha postings have shown: Anonymity can be great when discussing your trip to Geneva, but it is a very weak weapon when you try to take on a known person.) - I don't click on all the posting on this forum that don't interest me. So I have no idea what you are taking about. If this has something to do with your past experience in Sajha, it is irrelevant here, this is not a topic about you. Look, I have no trouble accepting that Pushkar Shah may NOT be a saint, and may be a complex person for reasons that can't easily be deciphered and explained. But so what? - I am voicing my opinion on Sajha, so what? Take it or leave it. >> If you read biographies/profiles of cyclists such as Lance Armstrong and others, they too come across as complex and convoluted characters who add, well, colour and fun -- temporarily -- to our lives in their own ways. Let's enjoy the color and fun folks like Pushkar Shah add to our lives without mistaking them for moral models and agents of heaven. That's all. - When one present themselves as a "goodwill ambassador" and a messanger of peace or whatever representing my country and potrays themselves as a public figure with good intentions but their actions speaks otherwise, I have every right to quesiton them and their motives and present my views on the subject. If you don't like it you may ignore my postings. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 08:53 AM
Darshankaka, Dhogen hai! why are you jealous about Pushkar's activity.Pushkar traveling around the world.so what?Pushkar sleep in the five star hotel.so what?Pushkar sleep in the street did anybody care?Pushkar eat orange pills on the jungle do anybody know?Pushkar survived by sugercane. Do anybody intersting about this story.You know the Nepali dadhe ''pushkar got 5000$$$ every city in usa.Pushkar got girlfriend every different country.Pushkar got money for calling to his girlfriend.so what?Why don't you travel like Pushkar on bicycle.You can get money ,five hotel,girlfriends,.....How many cities he has bank account ?Who said Pushkar can't open bank account in usa?Why Pushkar coming usa again and again?Does this word make any artha. How many times did you guys send ticket for Pushkar back to usa? Kaka ji , this two lines is not enouhg for you.Haina bhane nepali nabhanaa........ Posted on 08-28-03 8:10 AM Reply | Notify Admin ushkar said this in that WAVE magazine: ''Haami thulo manchey hoina, asal manchey banna sikaun, kinaki hamro desh lai kehi asal manchey haru ko khaancho chha.'' |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 09:20 AM
Remember, Pushkar is a self-proclaimed "goodwill ambassador" and a "messenger of peace". And he happens to be from Nepal to the World. |
| john doe | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 09:39 AM
Shikhar, Sadabichar, and the rest of the anti-Puskar posse: You have voiced your doubts and your concerns, which you have every right to do, anonymous or not, and yes, we have read them - again, and again, and again, and again.......u get my drift? And contrary to what u seem to think, i'm sure we've all understood them when u wrote them on this forum the very first time. The question now is - now that u've made your positions abundantly andrepeatedly clear, what do u plan to do about it? Are u going to add anything new to this forum? U seem to be so trigger-happy with your opinions and accusations. The sensible thing to do now is to give Puskar a chance to defend himself, or r u all content to keep on dissing him behind his back like a bunch of old ladies? And please dont tell me its not your job to get him to participate in this debate. U guys started the debate, and a lot has been said - some warranted, some unwarranted and some downright stupid. Now the onus is on u guys to let everyone hear his side of the story. If u cant do it, then lets just end this right here. Arguing just for the sake of arguing doesnt get us anywhere. No, this thread is not about Shikhar's hurt ego or Sadabichar's fluency in numbers or Darshankaka's proficiency in the art of copy-and-pasting, or even Ashu's disdain for anonymous-bashing. This thread is about Puskar. And if he doesnt get a chance to speak for himself, this thread will just die sooner or later (preferably sooner) as just another waste of cyberspace. |
| sadabichar | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 09:49 AM
Somewhere in the middle of this thread, i almost thought i was writing the last posting to this thread. But things came rolling on... John_doe, I am ready take a break here as I was before... but it seems people just don't want it to stop. Lastly, here again I repeat this: One day Gautam Buddha was at Jitwan Bihar. A Brahman gambler came to see him and asked many nonsense questions. Buddha kindly responded telling him that if you waste your time sleeping most of time and live without work being lazy, drink wines and other drugs, unnecessary talks, elongated travel abroad alone and involve in infidelity to other's women, then your life will be spoilt (sarvanash). By the mean time he asked him, " Dear Brahman, how much do you win/lose from the game?" The Brahman answered: "Sometime I win a lot and sometime lose." Then Bhagawan Buddha told him with a Pali slok: Look at Brahman, the person who can win sufferings or pains and indiscretion of stupidity, he is called the super winner. If you win a lot in a game, you cannot be the super winner. You cannot save it forever and sometimes you will lose it. If you win sufferings/pains and indiscretion or stupidity, you will win forever, there is no chance to lose it again. If you can suppress your uncontrolled desires, it is worth than to defeat the thousands and thousands of enemies in war and you cannot be defeated even by any Gods, Gandharvas and the Bramha (Creator). |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 09:52 AM
No, this thread is not about Shikhar's hurt ego or Sadabichar's fluency in numbers or Darshankaka's proficiency in the art of copy-and-pasting, or even Ashu's disdain for anonymous-bashing. This thread is about Puskar. - You forgot to mention John Doe's skill in ignoring the message and ridiculing the messanger. You have voiced your doubts and your concerns, which you have every right to do, anonymous or not, and yes, we have read them - again, and again, and again, and again.......u get my drift? I have said it again and again and again, if you don't like it, just ignore it.... u get my drift? The sensible thing to do now is to give Puskar a chance to defend himself, or r u all content to keep on dissing him behind his back like a bunch of old ladies? I have not stopped Puskar or anyone from writing here. If you don't like it, stop acting like a nosy neighbour and read what I write. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 12:07 PM
I think whatever have been written down here has been helpful tools for Nepalse all over the world beore they make any donation to Pushakr's jorney. Before this, whoever gave donation, had only one side story - Pushkar's. Now they have both sides. Well here is another excerpt from the link below. - http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=HongKong We entered Kowloon at 5:30. Tall buildings, reach to the top of the mountains from the sea level, attract me. Truly, the British made Hong Kong with hard work. I wanted to condemn the courageous and brave Balbhadra once. My country is only living in nature. Only if it had been colonized once and been developed. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 12:24 PM
- http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=China February 14 I met a man who could speak a little English, in Yan Shan. He asked me, "Musurim?" (Muslim). I understood his implication and said yes. He treated with food and bought me a bottle of water. Sometimes I don;t understand this guy... carrying soil from Lumbini, and declaring himself muslim to fill his stomach for free. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 12:28 PM
Then he writes: The Chinese women's cheeks look as deliciously juicy as our apples from Jomsom. But I have not experienced if it's truly so. My own cheeks and lips are torn and dry with wind. On top of that with long grown beard, I look no less than __ . I just don't feel like shaving. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 12:36 PM
- http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=China 23 April The entrance to the Great Wall opened at 8 in the morning. I bought a ticket of 30 Yuan and became the first one to enter today. You have to climb about 500 meters in an electric motor - plastic vehicles, like children's toys. Once on the Wall, I headed towards the North-West portion. When you reach top, looking down was too scary. The street vendors had already set up their shop, time and again they would approach me to sell their goods. I would climb up on my own ignoring them, and they would let me be. I didn't have anything to buy. The wall was made up of stones 1 foot in breadth and 2 to 3 feet in length, black stones on top of the wall. On top of the wall is another wall made up of breaks 4 times the size of the ordinary ones. The wind started blowing 1 km above the entrance gate. There was a 'no visitors' board ahead. The board couldn't stop me and I went ahead and climbed further. I walked through the damaged and ruined portion of the wall for about 2 hours. When there is board "No Visitor", Pushkar jee, use your dimag and follow the instruction. It's for your own safety. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 12:40 PM
- http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=China 28 April Today's my last day in Beijing. There are lots of place I could visit. But I place I should see by all means - White Pagoda is still left to be seen. Nepali artist Arniko constructed it here in King Angshuvarma's period. It is said that he later settled here in China. At 11, I headed toward the White Pagoda, taking along Nishant as my guide. It took us two hours to reach the Pagoda, which lies at the North West from the Tianamen Square. We paid 10 Yuan for the ticket. An island at the centre of the pond, the Pagoda on the island looks really beautiful, does look like a Nepali Pagoda. Around the pond is a fence of stone pillars, swans on the pond, jungle encircling the island, the top of the Pagoda in the middle of the jungle seen from a distance is a real beautiful sight. I feel really proud to see the development of Nepali art here. I am happy today to have seen the living history of the friendship of Nepal and China. But Arniko, such a popular figure came here to live - I feel anger towards him for that. He forgot his country. Such a reputed artist, and we don't see or hear about his work in our own country. I wonder why. Yeah, but have you remember your family instead of that chinese rich lady who wants to marry you in Hongkon? Think about that man. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 12:53 PM
- http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=Australia October 28 I wanted to celebrate Tihar playing deusi with fellow Nepalis here in Sydney. However this wasn't possible, the people I met had no plans of playing deusi. Today is Gobhardan puja. I went to Willington with Indira didi, Lila didi and Jwala, where the Newars were celebrating an elaborate 'mha' puja. It was organized by a guthi of the Newar community here, attended mostly by Newar families. The feast consisted of various Newari delicacies - choela, kachila, aalu tama, chiura. One item to remind you even more of home was the 'tin pate' raksi. The young spoke English while the elders spoke Nepali with a heavy Newari accent. Even in Sydney, I felt as if I was in a 'mha puja' in Bhaktapur. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 01:03 PM
- http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=Australia January 18 - 20, 2001 The journey from Sydney to Canberra wasn't worth mentioning. The first day, journeying from North Sydney to Wooloong Gong, I covered almost 65 km through the jungle. There was a separate track for bicycles, so didn't face any particular problems as such. Second day's journey covered Wooloong Gong to Goulborn. The importance of my journey seems to become less when I don't meet people on the way. I didn't really meet many people in small places. I passed through huge grazing fields - live stocks in protective bars, horses and mules in others. Inspite of the rain parts were dry. I reached Canberra on the 3rd day. Surrounded by small settlements all over, the capital city of Australia is smaller than Kathmandu. At the peak of the day, with the blaring sun, temperature soars upto 36 degrees. I called some Nepali people that Inda didi had adviced me to contact. Himalji was apparently in Canberra. I called Purnima didi, who told me that she would look for a place for me to stay. She said she couldn't offer me her place as she had visitors. Later when I called again, she gave me the contact number of a certain Dr. Panta. But Dr. Panta didn't pick up his phone. After 9 at night, I had a burger and looked for a field to set up my tent. I settled down in a small grass patch near a parking lot in the city center. There were people celebrating the weekend - filing out from restaurants. Some even approached me for an introduction. Some passed by abusing. Some tried to wake me up. At 2:15 a.m., a car pulled up and honked. It was the cops, told me that I cannot camp in the city center and that it was not safe. The restaurant goers had made a mess in front of my tent, the cops told me to clean that up too. I had to comply. Dawn would break anytime so I tried to sleep again without paying heed to the cops. But, lo, they appear again after half an hour. From inside the tent I cried out that I was packing. I got up, packed and left the place. The train of people going in and coming out of the restaurants had not stopped. I was hungry, so had some offered by them. They say you can speak English if you eat a kuirey's jutho. Well, no harm in trying to improve my English - with leftover burgers, chips and all. The same police car passed by saying "Thank you, man." In a little distance, I bent over a table and tried to sleep. Risky business eh? |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 01:11 PM
http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=Brunei Brunei 2000 August 22 Teaching the Gurkhas in Brunei about the geography of Nepal is a tough task. "Where do you live", everybody asks. "Dolkha", I reply. The inevitable second question, "Where is Dolkha?" I feel a wee bit sad that these Nepalese know all about East Timor, Bosnia and Kosovo but are ignorant about their own home country. May be a war is necessary for them to know my village too. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 01:17 PM
- http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=Singapore Singapore 2000 September 17 I met many Nepalse there, had meals with them and around 9:30 went to take a tour in the Deskar road with Dinesh. It is a famous red light area. There were many fair and black skinned Asian girls waiting for the customers. Many Indian, Pakistani and Bengali males were selecting those girls. It was a Sunday, a fun day, for those who could afford. We couldn't . What do you mean "we couldn't"? If you had enough money, you would?????? C'mon. Is this what we expect from Ambassador of peace? |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 01:42 PM
- http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=South+Korea 10 April Abhaya and I had dog meet again today. Apparently dog meet is taken for its medicinal values in Korea. Mostly people who have been hospitalized for a long period and sportsmen consume it from time to time. One cannot afford to have it every day as it is very expensive. You don't see a dog in the streets. I remember my Kathmandu. People here usually like to go to the rural areas for dog meat. They cook it very tastily in those areas. And people treat these occasions as picnics. I had a dog, named Jacky. He liked me a lot. To show his courage, he used to bring home monkeys, mice or snakes every now and then. One day when I was not home, he committed suicide by eating poison. He was loved by all in the village, there were 32 children in his malami (funeral procession). I skipped a meal when I heard of his death. While chewing on the dog meat today, I remembered my Jacky. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 01:54 PM
Darshankaka, Pheri pani dhogen hai! Khoi answer?Kurakani battariyo.I had read all Pushkar dairy from his website. why are you jealous about Pushkar's activity.Pushkar traveling around the world.so what?Pushkar sleep in the five star hotel.so what?Pushkar sleep in the street did anybody care?Pushkar eat orange pills on the jungle do anybody know?Pushkar survived by sugercane. Do anybody intersting about this story.You know the Nepali dadhe ''pushkar got 5000$$$ every city in usa.Pushkar got girlfriend every different country.Pushkar got money for calling to his girlfriend.so what?Why don't you travel like Pushkar on bicycle.You can get money ,five hotel,girlfriends,.....How many cities he has bank account ?Who said Pushkar can't open bank account in usa?Why Pushkar coming usa again and again?Does this word make any artha. How many times did you guys send ticket for Pushkar back to usa? Kaka ji , this two lines is not enouhg for you.Haina bhane nepali nabhanaa........ Posted on 08-28-03 8:10 AM Reply | Notify Admin ushkar said this in that WAVE magazine: ''Haami thulo manchey hoina, asal manchey banna sikaun, kinaki hamro desh lai kehi asal manchey haru ko khaancho chha.'' |
| gunda | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 02:17 PM
Just to let the two scumbags Sadhabichar and Pipal Dada know that MahaGunda and Gunda is different ingdividual. You scumbags going to pay for what you are advocating soon. Law of Karma is such that no one gets away with it. You will reap what you sow. It may not be tomorrow or next month of next year, but eventually you will have to pay for your lies and deception that you are advocating. You know deep down in your heart what is right the right thing to do and what is the truth but you are ignoring that small voice and you will regret it. That's all I have to say. You can rant and rave but support for Pushkar is not going to go away no matter what kind of things you cook up against him. That's all. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 02:29 PM
Kahile Gunda ta kahile Maahagunda... Hey man, I have already provided here enough evidences that clrealy reveals who is the scumbag... didn't you read all those excerpts fromPuhskar's Dairy... those write ups exactly tells us what type of man he is.. a true nature ofhim is clearly evident. So talk about who is lying, who is decepting whom? If Pushkar begs in the different cities, we are not responsible for that.. it's his choise and his stupidity. He doesn't deserve to be called Ambassador of Peace from nepal who is carrying a message of peace. He is responisble for all this. and he is responsible for the way he saves his life on sugarcane or orange pills (peels?).. What he is preaching and what he is trying to represent is 180 degree from his nature, action, and what not. I don't understand why you guys can accept having girlfriends everywhere (as you have accepted) while he leaves behind his wife and kid in Nepal. He has displayed completely irresponsible characters so far, and he cannot me called a model for nepalese youth. I am sorry to say that. But I am sure Gunada, Mahaaguna are from FL... and and here comes the Pushkar in FL too.. eh? |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 02:42 PM
I wonder if Pushkar spread peace message in the red light areas of different countries as well? He never writes that he did so.. but what he did write is he visited those places when he got time.. rather chuckles that he could not afford the fun there. Nay, that's not how you run your peace tour. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 03:01 PM
- http://www.chicagoguru.com/cc/gc/ltarticlesdet.asp?ArticleId=86 When I wrote here how he cheated people here in my City, people may not believe.. so here is the evidence of that too.. He used to say exactly same while here in this city.. but eventually from Day 2, he started riding car to attend dinner inviations for next 15 days. Q: What other means of transportation are you using? PS: When on land I dont use any other means of transport, I only cycle around. It is only when I need to cross the ocean that I use other vehicles like a ferry, ship or airplane. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 03:04 PM
Most irritating this is this: Q: What about your family dont you miss them? PS: They understand that Im doing some thing special in my life, for country and for the world. My family is proud of what I am doing and me. I do want to see them some time&some where in the world! Which means he doesn't care about his family at all. What do you mean by somewhere in the world? In USA? in Africa? This guy is nuts. |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 06:35 PM
Way to go..... Kaka... you nailed it with all the proofs. It was quite a reading all those interviews and dairy stuff... this guy is hideous. And yet he claims himslef as a messenger of peace... it's nothing but a cheap slogans.. he is damn irresponsible. Can't imagina how nepalese feel so proud about him. People, we must all come to the reality now. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 08:27 PM
You Boston's Torilaure?I know who are you.Did you have any answers to my questions?What i wrote about Pushkar's bank account,5000$$$ every city,girlsfriends,many times back to usa.Why our parents send us in America.We call in Nepal'' paisa le mattera patte ko santan''.If you are study in collage please do PHD about Pushkar life history.You guys know the 'aandra bhundi' |
| learner_1 | Posted
on 28-Aug-03 10:17 PM
As a matter of fact, as maahagubda suggests, it seems like now people know the 'anadra bhudi' of Pushkar shah... but I am sure there are still more. Whatever I have been reading in this thread are all there in the WAVE and thamel.com dairies of Pushkar. I know it's quite unfortunate for Pushkar that this thread went far away digging out all tose andra bbudhi, who happens to be in Florida now again. He does have a dubious characters, afterall he is just a simple human being. But he cashed out all his stupid stories fron asia after reaching USA. This is the reality. He acknowledge that USA is the place he finally have found as a place where money grows in plants, and he can rip them off quite easily taking advantage of soja nepalese living in USA who are working so hard in foreign soil being cut off from family roots in Nepal. Now that I am sure that Pushkar is adding all the kms he has travelled whether on bike or on car/plane/boats. Coz It is impossible for him to finish 80,000+ kms as he claims. |
| gunda | Posted
on 29-Aug-03 01:52 AM
All you ass holes who is against Pushkar, I am not in Florida and I am not mahagunda, I am gunda period. Unlike you scumbags, I spent part of my time in Nepal and in California. When the last time you took vacation to Nepal you ass holes? Its sad that your father and mother taught you english but not what is right from wrong. You can suck it all you want, you have proven to be bastards and ass holes. I know who you are and I am keep it cool because I cannot do anything over the cyberspace. you are america and you think you are smart ass and invincible , that's ok, I know your family still lives in Nepal. Trust me your day will come and you will be sorry that you ever took this stupid stance. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 29-Aug-03 07:02 AM
Who are the sojho Nepali lives in USA. Like you Learner-1?or darshankaka,sadabichar,Thanda beer,Pipal dada? Kya mitho jokes. |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 29-Aug-03 09:39 AM
This is what we can summarize of Pushkar shah and his Journey From An End of Innocence "There is another breed of pseudo-innocent whose attention is directed mainly towards mainting of saintly self-image. As a strategy for living, saintliness may have its own implicitly exploitative expectations of how others are to respond to one's purity. Still, the main concern is with continuing reassurnace of one's own angelic innocence. I find that such people always turn out to be too good to be true." I've been thinking about this one for a quite a long time. Here's another one: "super good intentions often results in super bad actions." this is what applied in Pushkar. Unhappy at the outcome of their folly, some of the neurotic too-good-to-be-true innocents end up seeking psycotherapy. Mostly, those who cannot help themselves talk a lot about helping others: may be becasue they need it. Same with Pushkar and Nepal at this juncture of chaos and voilence and blood-bath ahppening in Nepal. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 29-Aug-03 09:40 AM
For Pushkar: I think, it is time for Pushkar to step up and give some explanations on the alligations/questions/concerns, whatever you want to call, raise by his supporters or former supporters. For Cry babies in here who feel like they have been robbed by Pushkar: If you gave donations and you feel like you have been cheated than it's your fault for not doing good research on the person before hand. At least, please wait until you hear an explanation from him. Please send him an email and ask him questions if you are so much concerned about your money/support. You deserve to ask questions because you guys helped out a Nepali, with a Nepali flag in his bike; so it becomes you guys concern to know what is going on. For those of you who say people should not care about what PUshkar does: Wrong. Very wong. We should care because a guy is representing our country with our flag in his bike and going around the world representating Nepal. Those people who helped Puskhar did not just help him because he is a biker. They helped him because he is a biker from Nepal. I am sure people wouldn't be so friendly and generous if he were someone from India, Bangladesh , paki or somewhere else. So those people who have helped a Nepali considering his honest and respectable motive have very good rights to put concerns and questions. So please do not try to shut them. For those who say something like , I know you and i will do this and that to you or your family: Bullshit .. ...Don't try to scare each other for expressing true opinions in a public forum , morons. What do you think, you're some kind of mafia guy? What does every lil' Nepali tries to be a gangastaaaaaaa, i don't understand. Don't you have the feeling of shame for barking on something that you are not going to do? Cuz I know you ain't gonna dig anything with your bogus threats. Here i challange you all pricks. Come track me and teach me a lesson if you can. Pushkar is a young fella, and he certainly has a dream and his motive is very respectable. However, we also want to be sure that the person who says he's doing this for our country, for us, representing our flag, does what he says. So it's time for Pushkar to give some lights on the some of the issues that are posted in here. However , if he does not than it is fine too. You people who gave him money , go get drunk and cry somewhere else, and next time do good research before you do something like what you have done for Pushkar. Enough of this sytt. bye. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 29-Aug-03 10:14 AM
I agree with Sankaa ''For those who say something like , I know you and i will do this and that to you or your family: Bullshit .. ...Don't try to scare each other for expressing true opinions in a public forum , morons. What do you think, you're some kind of mafia guy? What does every lil' Nepali tries to be a gangastaaaaaaa, i don't understand. Don't you have the feeling of shame for barking on something that you are not going to do? Cuz I know you ain't gonna dig anything with your bogus threats. Here i challange you all pricks. Come track me and teach me a lesson if you can. '' Dear Sada and other Bakamphuse do you undarstand what Sankaa said.' ''Nepali huna lai Nepali nasha bhitra nepali ragat bageko hunu parchha.'' Nepali naam ra jaat le matrai nepali hundaina. ''Haina bhane nepali nabhanannnn....'' wherever Pushkar go he have been proud to call himself Nepali.For the next six years you can be proud that somebody will be bearing your country's flag and will be disseminating the message of peace from land of mt .everest.He have taken responsibility to make your country know to the rest of the world . |
| Learner_1 | Posted
on 29-Aug-03 10:52 PM
Hey Maahagunda... what happened to you? You are repeating the paragraph from Sanka which talked about you and your friend Gunda.. and you got totally understood opposite... How can you defend Pushkar that way? You have to come up with solid explanation to clarify all the issues raised in this thread. So much evidence have already been presented here from the Dairies of Pushkar that were printed or published in WAVE and other magazines. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 30-Aug-03 10:47 PM
Pushkar's dairies are full of examples which shows dark side of his mind. Here are some more of those eveidences. Most of them have already been posted in this thread. He may claim himself "Ambassador of Peace" and "representative of Nepal". But can we nepalese accept that? - http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=Philippines July 21 I met many dance students too. A girl named Bibiyan was cracking up jokes with me. She said I'm ready if you want a friend for the night. I said I'm not a coward, I can sleep alone. Everyone had a good laugh. Another girl Jiniya gave her phone number and said to call her at 7:30 in the morning tomorrow. July 22 Viviyan didn't leave my side throughout the program, offering me coke and juices time to time. She gave me a toy, with a piece of paper in its hand. Something must have been written there. All of her friends clapped and laughed, Viviyan put her arms around and held me tightly. She's short, boys-cut hair, moves like a boy, looks like a boy at the first glance. July 25 Then they allowed me to set up the tent too. Had dinner with them, showed them files and pictures, they were impressed and permitted me to sleep inside in the restaurant. His wife was even telling me to sleep inside the room with her two sisters. Sisters agreed too. I jokingly said I'm tired and don't want to get more tired. Everyone laughed. The girls were saying we won't touch you come sleep inside. I moved tables and chairs and made my home on the restaurant floor. |
| tankahang | Posted
on 31-Aug-03 01:14 PM
That kid is livin his dream....travelllin around....makin frens.....seeing places.....on top of that enjoyin his life....if he doesn't care for hez family itz nothin that should concern you...f*&kin losers....this discussion is just for the sake of discussion or maybe showin off ur vocabulary...u go around the globe...away frm ur motherland and u'll know how tough that is.....hez a cyclist...he haz the heart of a cyclist....u can't go every single places on ur bike....he may want the comfort of a cab sometimes...is that a sin....he may get horny and grab a hooker....is that a crime....he may wanna get relaxed and smoke a joint...wat the f@#k...itz hez life...pandit haru...u know watz wrong with u f#$ks...whiners.Do ur stuff,live ur life and shut the f@#k off on those things which u don't know. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 31-Aug-03 06:54 PM
Tankahangjyu, When you have nothing in hand to defend Mr. Shah, your foul language would rather damage more to his image. What you are trying to suggest here to all Nepalese is to accept the "Messenger of Peace" "the ambassador of Goodwill and Peace" of Nepal to all over the world should: if he doesn't care for hez family itz nothin that should concern you he is the only person in this world who can go every single places on his bike he may want the comfort of a cab sometimes, although he gives interviews to every single magazine telling them that his only means of transport is BIKE while he is on Land. So he can cover the distances by cab and it's a sin. he may get horny and grab a hooker....and it's not a crime or infidelity towards his family he may wanna get relaxed and smoke a joint, itz hez life. he can sometimes lie about himself and about his country, when people he meet around the world asks him. I don't think that's what we should be looking on the "role model" type of figure!!! |
| sankaa | Posted
on 31-Aug-03 09:18 PM
then don't see him as a role model. find someone else. bhattrai bajay might help ;) byeee |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 31-Aug-03 09:51 PM
Dear vijilante kaka, Do you know what is rastriyata?where does born,grow,and die.Please learn what is rastriyata and rastra.Yadi aafule garna nasakeko kaam aru kasaile garchha bhane usko prasansa garna sika.How long have been america?Yadi nepali jhanda biriyako chhaina bhane tyo jhanda bokne manchhe lai khilli naudau. bassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss aba ta atiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii bho haina ra? |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 31-Aug-03 10:15 PM
Mahagunda and other associates of Pushkar, In this thread several issues were raised and heavily debated. Looks like you guys have came up of this idea of quietly inserting following information in order to cheat the people. It's not rocket science to understand what you guys are trying to do here... It was a try though. But it will in no way can convince the mass regarding the raised issues. Sometimes it's a laughable matter the way you guys are trying so hard to deceive people. The issues reaised and the way you people try to encounter are as follows: 1. Money issue... you posted picture showing Pushkar painting house.. C.mon what happened with all those moneys deposited in so many accounts scatterred all around USA. 2. Distance issue.. don;t think that just by posting that 89,300 km will remove the doubts. It has already been proved by detail analysis that that distance is impossible!! 3. Last Known Phone contact is unknown? C'mon.. when you guys are asking for donations.. there were phone numbers all over!!! Now how come no phone number? 4. Current location is USA? What's this.. why not be specific? You guys ask donations tobe sent to exact City and locations with detail address and even account number. Now location is USA? 5. He will fly Sept 17 to Equador? Hello? what happened to the Bike? No more bike travel? 6. It is quite clear now that you guys are trying to cook stories here. It's pathetic. - http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=Where+is+Pushkar%3F Current location: USA He is house painting for next trip.He will fly 17 september 2003 for Ecuador. Last Known Phone Contact: Not Known Next leg Ecuador,Peru,Bolivia,Chile,Argentina, Uruguay,Paraguay,Brazil. Countries visited: 52 Total mileage : 89,300 km 
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| darshankaka | Posted
on 31-Aug-03 10:31 PM
And when we look close to that picture ofpainting house... it doesn't sound OK in many ways... this is just a bogus picture. Deliberately, too much paint stains were put on his clothes. No shoes!! See the cap, which is also stained too much with paint.. which is not possible in reality. This is just a drama. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 31-Aug-03 11:17 PM
Darshankaka or whatever, Thanks for the pic. Nice one. Trust me , there is no gang involved in this message thread to raise money in the name of PUshkar or to make you sound wrong. You are being paranoid. and looks like you've watch too many hindi- detective movies, so your brain can't take straight facts. So Puskhar must have spilled paint on his hat when painting the house, so what? that doesn't mean he's not trust worthy and sytt. I've been painted houses for my summer jobs when i was in college and i always had paints on my hats , my boots, my shirt and what not. Now, that doesn't mean i'm a gang member too; wait before you jump. Mr , detective, just cuz you put 2- dollarsl on puskhar donation box doesn't mean that yo have control over his life, okay? he's a free human being, not a slave of yo uand your gang who try to prove him wrong. Obviously you can't dig something like that i n your life because you just can't. Thats fine, we all are different . I can' bike like puskhar too. however, i can do one thing; i can wait until i make sure that this guy is cheating , before jumping into conclusion on proving him bad and cheater. So what if pushkar takes 20000 years to go arpund the world? so what, if he has to revise his claims? It's his life, it's his country too, and he has rights to put on that flag on his bike , but i do not see what gives you right engough to bash on that poor guy. IF he is living a baccation life , then so be it. WE all want vaccation, why is it bad. Now , it woul've been bad if he was putting a knife in your neck and asking for money to tour around but he is not. So you have no rights to bash on him Over all , with your stupid comments and paranoid - twisted arguments , you have proven that you are wrong.Actually, let me rephrase that; they are SILLY, and actually makes me wonder if you are a producer of a flopped hindi ditective movie. You are making me actully believe more on Pushar with your 3 rd grader jelouse argument. You sound like that cry baby, who's like " mommmy bhai lay chahi yeso garna paunay , mailayyy chahi kina na paunay" .. grow up... byeeee |
| Himalayas | Posted
on 01-Sep-03 03:48 AM
Mahagunda wrote :- Yadi nepali jhanda biriyako chhaina bhane tyo jhanda bokne manchhe lai khilli naudau. WELL SAID. I am with you. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 01-Sep-03 08:17 AM
But Sanka: I have reaised 6 points above... which is totally controversial... But you got caught by the fact that you happened to work as a painter in summer jobs.. and you got immediately biased. You should try to separate facts from sentiments. I don't care what you did in USA... but he is ambassador of peace from Nepal in USA as well.. and he is not holding work visa!!!! That's illegal. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 01-Sep-03 08:20 AM
Posted on 08-27-03 6:45 PM Reply | Notify Admin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sadabichar Posted on 08-20-03 8:46 AM ''have written quite a lot in the thread given below. All the numbers related to his coverage of the world on bike seems questionable.. I am quite surprised to hear that in a single city in US he could scour US$5000.. that's fantastic. This guy is now travelling with the credit card in his pocket, and he has bank account in USA's Bank of America. In his diary, he mentions that he visited 21 US states.. don;t know exactly how many cities... If 5000US$ from one city.. then he must have raised a great deal of money from USA. My hunch is, he must have amassed at least US$30,000. And remember, he hardly spends that money for food, he always looks out for sponsoring family in every city he visits for free food and lodging. '' ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- darshankaka Posted on 08-28-03 8:10 AM Reply | He creates bank accounts everywhere in USA He goes back to USA again and again.. for the past more than 2 years his life is busy in sticking to USA He saw places where money grows in plants, and in the day time he can collect the money, and by the night time he can fold and tuck it in the coffer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is some Pushkar's fund information for your records' Dear Friends, Life is a journey; it has a beginning and an end; what happens in between, is anybodys guess. It certainly is filled with some highs and lows, some ups and downs. Pushkar Shah embarked on such journey on his bike about five years ago from Nepal and has logged over 54,000 miles, traveling 51 countries, all in the name of peace and solidarity, on a global scale. His goal is to bike through 150 countries in 11 years, and is getting closer to achieving that. Every body loves and desires peace. Yet, peace is becoming a rare commodity, an endangered species, day by day. Therefore, Pushkar has taken up the mission to spread the message of peace and harmony around the globe. In his own words: there exists only one world, one family under a big sky. Pushkar Shah, a member of the Lion Club in Nepal, is currently on his way to South America, via Mexico. His travel itinerary can be accessed at www.pushkarshah.com . On behalf of Nepalese Association of Houston (NAH), we deeply appreciate Pushkar Shah for stopping by Houston, and sharing his thoughts and experiences gained through his bike tour of 51 countries in an enjoyable, thought provoking discussion, on Saturday July 26. NAH greatly appreciates Mr. Pradhumna Shrestha and Mrs. Sangina Shrestha, for kindly hosting Pushkar Shah in Houston. Thank you all for participating in the welcome event and making generous donations to Pushkar for a noble cause. NAH has contributed $50(fifty) to Pushkar Shah Fund. We will be posting the pictures from the event on the NAH web site www.houstonnepalese.org soon. Best regards, Rajendra Shrestha President, NAH ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finnaly our batha dadhe darshan Kaka found proof Hero of this chapter.where he is now and what is he doing.Push cycle you can't lie our nepali jaashush. Yes ! Hamra nepali thita last year visited 31 state on his word.He collected donation 5000$$$$$ every cities . sada ,kaka and other gang know. 31 state guna 5000$ kati hunchha? puraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa155000 $(achherupi ek lakh pachchapanna hajjar dollor american).Bichara tyo dolakha ko pakhe le tetro paisa bhettayako.aba ke garne? sochda sochda he got idea.why not buy one house in usa. Last year he was buy one house some where maybe around miami.Idon't know.This time he has back for painting his house own house.Maybe Kaka will find it also where his donation spend. Kaso Kakajee.Make happy your bhijilante gang. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 01-Sep-03 09:10 AM
Pushkar , Happy labour day. 2003 
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| darshankaka | Posted
on 02-Sep-03 11:54 AM
Maahagunda: Lok's like this is the only evidence you have right? Nothing else!!!! >>>>Thank you all for participating in the welcome event and making generous donations to Pushkar for a noble cause. NAH has contributed $50(fifty) to Pushkar Shah Fund. I am sorry to hear that you guys got only $50 from NAH. Don't try to twist the facts and cheat people again and again.. you guys think that nepalese are blind and they have no dimag. What does the above line say? Read carefully. It says "NAH donated $50 to Pushkar's fund"... THIS IS NOT THE TOTAL AMOUNT from whole Houston. Don't you think NAH would not even dare to write "making generous donations" by the poeple had there been only $50 raised from whole City? Maahagunda, the more you write like that the more harm you will cause to your group and Pushkar's mission. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 02-Sep-03 01:02 PM
Darshan, I haven't put a single dime in puskhar's donation box, or pocket. So, i do not think i am concerned to write anything regarding this matter. However, I think, it is very silly to bash on a person if, a) you already donated the money, and b) You are putting questions in a message forum which Pushkar ji might not be accessing. It just does not sound fair on jumping on conclusions and proving him to be cheater. Why not hear his side of the story too? If you happen to meet him, please ask him about the donated money and how he spends them. Or, please email him or call him and ask him how he finance the donated money for the good purpose of his travel. Please, don't forget to keep the source though. Pushkar is working hard to pursue his dreams to travel different countries and speading the message of peace: this is what i have understood so far. I would not go as far as telling eveyone he is a cheater with bogus and vague arguments from his posting, or from his online journal. Darshan, you seem like you are having too much fun to prove him wrong. Please, be sensible towards another human being. Have you given a thought on , what if he was actually honest and not a cheater as you want to protrate him in this thread. Wouldn't that be a big frustration to that poor soul? that would be something very awful to do to another Nepali, or another Human being in over all. Please be patient , and email him or call him or go visit him , if 6 points is burning your soul, and please let us know what he has to say , and let us be the Judge of trusting him or not. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 02-Sep-03 01:18 PM
Posted on 09-01-03 8:17 AM Reply | Notify Admin ut Sanka: I have reaised 6 points above... which is totally controversial... But you got caught by the fact that you happened to work as a painter in summer jobs.. and you got immediately biased. You should try to separate facts from sentiments. I don't care what you did in USA... but he is ambassador of peace from Nepal in USA as well.. and he is not holding work visa!!!! That's illegal. ----> I think your six points are nothing more than your personal opinion and an outcome of your mind that might have been affected by too much of thrilling- hindi- flopped- ditectitive movies. Sir, if you really want me to argue on those six points , i can do that too, please let me know. At this point , I do not see a reason to prove Puskhar is honest because, he is already honest : he has not been proven guilty so he is innocent. As far as these lines go : Posted on 09-01-03 8:17 AM Reply | Notify Admin But Sanka: I have reaised 6 points above... which is totally controversial... But you got caught by the fact that you happened to work as a painter in summer jobs.. and you got immediately biased. You should try to separate facts from sentiments. I don't care what you did in USA... but he is ambassador of peace from Nepal in USA as well.. and he is not holding work visa!!!! That's illegal. Sir, ---> I did not get baised. I gave a personal example as an ex-painter suggesting that it is normal to have paint spilled over you like Pushkar has on that painting. Sir, You were suggesting that the pic is a fake and primary purpose of it is to raise the money.I on the other hand, do not think so. So i was not being baised but was trying to prove you wrong on your argument which was baised in the first place. As far as illegal job goes, Prove it. Who knows he might be doing Voluntary job?, who knows he might have work authorization to work in the States? do you know what kind of Visa he is on? I doubt you do. Now , wait a sec, before you say it is toursit or somethinghere, please make sure you have valid points and a source ( like a photocopy of his visa) if i ask you in my next reply. legal - illegal, this is the USA, and you know it and i know it. Illegals can get legals and legals can be illegals in a small period of time in this country. Iit is very rude to put someone's status without being sure , Mr . Darshan. You have to stop being so judgemental about a fellow human being. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 02-Sep-03 01:20 PM
pushkar has on that pic |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 02-Sep-03 02:28 PM
Sanka>> I haven't put a single dime in puskhar's donation box, or pocket. So, i do not think i am concerned to write anything regarding this matter. --- If you think so, then you may stop writing.. no one is compelling you. >>>>However, I think, it is very silly to bash on a person if, a) you already donated the money, and b) You are putting questions in a message forum which Pushkar ji might not be accessing. -- Much has already been discussed earlier as to who should and who should not be writing no matter whether one has donated or not. -- Why you think that Puhskar is painting as a voluntary work? Read carefully in his website, where after much discussion the info like "whereabout of pushkar and what he is doing" and how many Km covered has suddenly appeared. It's clearly written there "painting for next trip" with that picture. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 02-Sep-03 08:52 PM
Kakaji, What kind of dimag you had in USA.Your sounds like some nepali aatankabadi.Why don't you try join in FBI or CIA? u are anusandhan garing one nepali magne travelar.who is beging on the street for nepali flag.Do you really think he built a house in Miami area?Ani your pet poling.Badhai chha bhai badhai ! Kya dimag bando rahechha America ma chhire pachhi.. Kaka ji nepal kahile aaunu hunchha i will request for our raja one aaluko gorkha dakshin bahu dyamaaaaa timro chhati maa.lanthang lanthang halaundai hidnu.If your dimag think Pushkar is working illegal why don't you call immigration.That is your country.We love illegal people.Because they return my mother land. Send him back Nepal.There is some information about Pushkar shah in nepalisite.com.Phone number and address.You never told how much dollor did you donate Pushkar. where and when?Please write your original name ,date,place,amount.Last time when Pushkar was back in Nepal he had one interview on Nepal television.He has told he has all record of donors around the world.Do you understang what i mean American guy arthat Nepali go<><><><> |
| sankaa | Posted
on 02-Sep-03 09:06 PM
darshankaka Posted on 09-02-03 2:28 PM Reply | Notify Admin Sanka>> I haven't put a single dime in puskhar's donation box, or pocket. So, i do not think i am concerned to write anything regarding this matter. ---" If you think so, then you may stop writing.. no one is compelling you. " Darshan, You are the one who is compelling me. I am not trying to prove Pushkar right or wrong , but I am certainly trying to tell you that you are doing something very immoral, that is to bash on a person without a proof. You are trying to prove Pushkar with digging each and every details. You probably would go and dig his flushed stuff and see if you could find some evidence if he actually ate stuff that he souldn't be to save the donated money; silly. Now, you are also trying to prove that Pushkar was doing illegal job in the USA. I asked you to prove that he is not authorized to work, which you were unable to do. In what basis you try to prove this guy is wrong. Pushkar was raised in Dolakha; i perosnally think that his English is so good in compare to most of us in the USA, still he might make some grammatical mistakes or other kinds of errors while posting on the web : English is his second language. Darshan, ASk Pushkar about the questions you have raised here. No reason to bash on each other here or bash on the guy without any valid points. |
| learner_1 | Posted
on 02-Sep-03 09:53 PM
It appears that Pushkar is indeed reading this thread.... at least the way Mahaagunda is getting irritated a lot. Sankaa doesn't seem to be so, however. But the way Mahaagunda is shouting all those stuff makes my stomach roll. Here is what it appears from the story as told by Pushkar and the geographical locations. Something is defintiley doesn't fit in his story though. 
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| maahagunda | Posted
on 03-Sep-03 07:28 AM
Sanka ji, Thanks for location about Pushkar incident in Mexico.But what do you think about road situation in Mexico?Do you think there is also road are like USA. Your search says 60 kilometer drive 30 minute.I don't beleave there is free way where Pushkar was kidnapped. Pushkar kinapped place and padilla city has total distance is 177 kilometer in your map.If it is true.If pushkar was in location "A"it s + 18 kilometer=195.Please search again and give right information for people.That was happened in some 774 kilometer north part of Mexicocity .Not in American free way.okayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 03-Sep-03 07:31 AM
Sorry sanka , It was for learner -1, mean sikaru kya. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 03-Sep-03 07:33 AM
Sorry Sanka, It was for learner -1, mean sikaru kya. |
| learner_1 | Posted
on 03-Sep-03 09:24 AM
Mahaagunda: Don't get stunned. The Mexico freeways (such as MEX 101) have speed limit between 100 - 110 km/hour. But interestingly, Mexico is a crazy country, where if you try to do that speed limit, most of the vehicles will pass you on these freeways. In Mexico, no cops, no stops. People drive crazily there... once the mexican is put in front of the wheel, suddenly some chemical transformation occurs, and they drive like a hell and try to reach thier destination as soon as possible hurriedly. Here is a experience on trip made on MEX 101 highway which will enlighten you. "The highway is generally a "3-lane road" with passing except where prohibited. Occasionally it is a real 4-lane highway. With 3 lanes, the driver in front of you turns on their left turn signal and moves towards the right side of the road as a signal for you to pass him. (Do not confuse with an actual left turn!) You must be careful not to pass at the same time as another vehicle coming in the opposite direction. With accidents, the police usually jail all involved until fault is determined. Surprisingly, the most common vehicles we see are American made pick-up trucks. The drivers we encountered were generally very polite although almost no one heeds speed limits, except near police checkpoints." NOTE above : No one heeds the speed limits. Therefore, even if you consider the drop off point as "A' the distance 195 kms would havebeen crossed within 2 hours or slightly more. Still the timings reported by Pushkar Shah is inconsistent. |
| zero_creativity | Posted
on 03-Sep-03 09:47 AM
Good analysis there by learner_1. I hope you didnot spend a lot of time for Pusker :). He DOESNT deserve this much attention. I had a chance to meet Mr. Puskar Shah in Arlington, VA. He didnot impress me at all. I dont believe his clamis. BUT I DO WISH HIM A GOOD LUCK TO COMPLETE HIS MISSION. |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 03-Sep-03 05:39 PM
It appears that Puskar is speaking through the mouthpieces of Gunda and mahagunda. It is a shame to say that he collected just $50 in Houston. We know exactly how much he collected in our city. If you publish all the locations and how much he collected then we can tell the difference with real proof. For now we won't tell the locations that we know. After Learner-1 posted the map here , we know this guy has no cloths on. Those who speak for puskar are swindlers. Just like in "Emperer's New cloths" they are trying to fool us that only the wise can see puskar's distances. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 03-Sep-03 05:47 PM
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| sankaa | Posted
on 03-Sep-03 06:46 PM
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| maahagunda | Posted
on 03-Sep-03 07:19 PM
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- pipaldanda Posted on 09-03-03 5:39 PM Reply | Notify Admin t appears that Puskar is speaking through the mouthpieces of Gunda and mahagunda. It is a shame to say that he collected just $50 in Houston. We know exactly how much he collected in our city. If you publish all the locations and how much he collected then we can tell the difference with real proof. For now we won't tell the locations that we know. After Learner-1 posted the map here , we know this guy has no cloths on. Those who speak for puskar are swindlers. Just like in "Emperer's New cloths" they are trying to fool us that only the wise can see puskar's distances. Pipal Dada , Which city are from?There is no pipal and no dada where Pushkar has visited in USA. You never told how much dollor did you donate on Pushkar's journey. where and when?Please write your original name ,date,place,amount.Last time when Pushkar was back in Nepal he had one interview on Nepal television with Bijay kumar panday.(He call himself nepali larry king) He has told he has all records of donors around the world.If you proof me you gave him some penny in your city i will close my mouth.Otherwise stop your tatto na chharo ko bak bak bak bak . Or do you need your donation back? Do you understang what i mean American guy arthat Nepali go<><><> |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 04-Sep-03 03:20 PM
Either Pushakr Shah has lied to Mexican Police/authorities or the Nepalese. But he surely lied to one of them. The proof is here. Pushkar's kidnapping was notified by Nepalisite.com to Sajha.com as well it kept the info in it's own website, according to which Pushkar told us that he was kidnapped at 6 pm and they for next 3 hours until he ran away at 9:15 pm near Padillo City. BUT, opposite to that, he told mexican authorities and reporters that he has kidnapped at 9:15 pm. It's at this 9:15 pm that his bike was thrown into the truck. This is written exactly in the news published in Mexico City and that news quoted pushkar telling that story to them. The news can also be found in Pushkarshah.com website at - http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=Which+is+the+Latest+News The news is in Spanish. Therefore I have translated into English using google.com's language tool.. and it gives us roughly what exactly Pushkar gave the info to Mexicans. The translation goes like this: MORNING CALL DIEGO The Universal One. Mexico Tuesdays 12 of August of 2003 First section, page 5 rrives Nepals at Mexico and they assault it Pushkar Shah, original of Dolakha, Nepal, that has crossed 52 countries in bicycle, wants to leave a peace message. The man of 35 years left the 29 November of 1998 of Nepal, and the first country that visited was India Altogether has crossed 89 thousand kilometers and known countries like Pakistan, China, Australia, Canada and the United States. At the moment one is in the city of Mexico During his trip has undergone three mishaps, one in New Zealand, where they undressed it of all his properties, including its bicycle; the other in Barbados, where a subject tried to stab it, and the last one in the Federal District. This last accident happened 3 of August, day after it stepped on Mexican earth, near San Fernando "Were 9:15 at night when two subjects in one combi kidnapped to me, mounted my bicycle and they raised me on board Something said me that it was bad, so in a negligence I pushed which went of the right side of the steering wheel, I managed to leave and I began to run between the cactus and nopales; I do not know in where it was, only memory that I arrived at offices from the police They were very amiable, because on the following day they had recovered all my properties the only thing that I had left of that experience were the scratches in my legs and arms by the nopales ". source- universal magazine mexico Therefore based on this news, at 9:15 pm only he had trouble with those truck guys.. and they threw his bicycle into the back of the truck. And the way he described how he ran away is totally not correct to the version he told to Nepalisite.com by e-mail. He is a LIAR. Either he lied to nepalese vai neaplisite.com or to Mexicans. Perhaps that's why now he is skipping mexico and planning to go directly to Equador by flight. Probably he cannot go back to Mexico City and show his face to them lest they will find how how much he lied to them. |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 05-Sep-03 12:18 PM
I always sensed something wrong with the story of Pushkar Shah's. At the very beginning I raised the issue on how on earth he could remember the Lorry's number-plate by heart. That memorizing the number itself was not convincing at all. It's a good job from Learner_1, which illustrated the story and time lines as told by Pushkar to us and raising the discrepancies in time periods through that kidnapping process from the beginning to the end. Then yet again DaarshanKaka came up with the translation version of the story told by Pushkar to the mexican journalists which contradict the timings of kidnapping on those tow stories (one to US and another to Mexicans). Of course, the ways Pushkar frees himself and run away from his abducters is different in both stories. The only explanation to close gap between these two stories that I can think of is as follows: 1. The kidnapping didn't happen 60 Km north of San Fernando as told by Pushkar. 2. At 6:00 PM Pushkar might have taken ride into the truck to avoid cycling the highway. This could be very very true, since now we know that Pushkar never gives any details on how he bike what distances between cities. 3. Just before reaching Padilla City, Pushkar got off the truck. This is a part of his strategy. He never gets off the bus/truck he uses reaching at the City, but few Kilometers before reaching the City, so that he will bike then after to reach the City to show off that he actually reached there by biking. Remember that Padialla City, as per Learner_1, is only 51 Km away from big city Victoria. So he might have had the strategy to really biking this 51 kms stretch to reach Victoria. This 51 km really counts coz on the way someone will be seeing him biking the highway to Victoria, and when next day the news appears in the paper, it would sound authentic. But no one will remember whether he biked or not while approaching Padilla City from North of San Fernando, whether they have seen it or not. THIS is the golden trick Pushkar uses through out his voyage. 4. Ok, now after getting off the truck, Pushkar might have tried to take off without paying the truck. Now you know this is Mexico.. not like other countries, where Pushkar successfully had passerbys, policemen to pay his rent, food, hotel fees. This is his another strategy.. always tring to get everything free in all countries. If things are not working, then he shows them as if he has no money. And that's how he compels people to pay for him. But in Mexico... this didn't work, and it will not work for him through out South American countries that he is planning to visit. 5. Then the conflicts arose between truckwallas and Pushkar. Now concentrate what Pushkar told tomexican newspaper. Based on that, it should be clear by now that the truck wallas played really hard on him since they were not getting any money for the ride given to Pushkar. Then they might have siezed his entire belongings and bike and took into the back of the truck. All thee truckwallas wanted was the money they earned by giving ride to Pushkar, but since Pushkar is not moving an inch, they thought, OK there is no sign of money from him... why not sieze the bike. Then they tried to take off. So Pushkar might have climbed to the truck to plead for his belongings.. (remember, still at this point the pouch containing his money and passport strapped to his waist is intact). 6. Then there might have been some struggling between the driver and pushkar as the driver tried to take off after starting his truck. Since Pushkar didn't let it go.. driver's friend might have pull out the knife , while the driver might pushed him hard. 7. Well, then Pushkar dropped down from the truck, and sprained his ankle. 8. The truck took off anyhow while Pushkar laying on the ground. Well, why wouldn't he now memorize the truck's number plate.. a perfect time and only last option for him. 9. Now what to do? Head towards the Padilla City. Right? |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 05-Sep-03 08:16 PM
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| learner_1 | Posted
on 05-Sep-03 10:58 PM
Thanda Beer: You details are really cool. It appears that you assumption is the most plausible explanation for all those loop holes in Pushkar's story. I am more convinced now to read following paragraph from Lonely Planet's MEXICO ( Page 139, 8th Edition, 2003) about hitchhiking in Mexico. "If the driver (offering hitchhike to you) is another tourist or a private motorist, youmay get the ride for free. If it is a work or commercial vehicle, you should offer to pay." Since we know the psychology of Pushkar, who always try to get away from paying rent, dues, bills thoruhgout the countries he visited so far, obviousely he might have tried to get away free without offering anything to the truck driver and got into trouble. If it is true, then HE is stupid. |
| Learner_1 | Posted
on 07-Sep-03 11:08 AM
So no more biking in Mexico? In Hollywood, it seems things are in the air which talks that the incident happened as explained by Thanda Beer. Hard to swallow though. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 08-Sep-03 09:53 PM
Oh, He is full of lies. In Canada he told the newspaper that he bikes 120km per day continuousely... that's how he tricked people.. but in reality he had actually biked on average only 35 km/day in the past. I highly buy the story by Thnada Beer. That's exactly now I am hearing these days... things are on the air already that Pushkar twisted the story and somehow came back to Florida, that's what he has been doing in the past two years.. goes to one or two countries then comes back to US.. I don't think that's a planned misssion.. it's misleading. Thanks to this thread which clarified completely all the tricks played by Pushkar.. looks like after he reached in US, some nepalese bhaiyas joined him... so instead of just donating to pushkar, your money might be ending up in other culprits along with Pushkar. |
| sanobai | Posted
on 09-Sep-03 08:08 AM
Why doesn't this guy go out and get a real job? I had an american friend in florida who met him, started an affair with this guy (she's much older than him, even) then came to Nepal last fall to visit him. She hears from him now and then and has become something like a "sugar mamma" to this guy...he obviously is getting something out of keeping on this absurd journey (like good sex and money from stupid people who think he is a reliable"charity case"). Like that Mexico story, which sounded totally fishy to me from the get-go...I, by the way, am american married to a nepali man and live in the USA.. |
| learner_1 | Posted
on 09-Sep-03 05:47 PM
Well, I think any sensible person could understand why Pushkar went back to Florida again and again... and he has also a joint bank account with someone called Elizabeth. He is making fun of the Nepali flag, temples of nepal, Everest, and soil of Buddha's Birthplace Lumbini. His playing with the sentiments of Nepalese people. And most importantly he is betraying his own wife and son, and his family. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 09-Sep-03 09:46 PM
This guy Pushkar is a wierd mad guy. He carries soil from Buddha's birthplace, right? then he travels with that soil.. says that he is spreading message of peace. But he lies, and he curse people. He is just posing himself as a Goodwill Ambassador to cheat people and live grand life on people's donations and chasing old women as well as all sort of women. Where is the family value for this guy? Every contry he goes, he highlights how he survived without food and water for two days in China. What the hell is he talking about.. If he is on such an adventure why shoudl he expect epople serving him three meals everyday wherever he goes. Then every country goes, and he tells how his bike was stolen in New Zealand.. and how he was almost stabbed with chhura.. now he will again add one more medal in his resume in future regarding this Mexcico story.. who will believe now.. his chamche who fought real hard in this thread trying to protect him ran out of any more tricks.. sorry for those guys .. The proof is given below: - http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=Dominican+republic "I had to stay at the Dominican Republic for about two hours. When I tried to check-in for my 3:45 flight to Puerto Rico, I was informed that the plane had left an hour ago. I was mortified. Later, I found out that Haiti is an hour ahead of the Dominican Republic. I cursed myself. It seemed like Remys curse was following me around. I cursed Remy. " |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 10-Sep-03 01:12 PM
Pushkar is getting mad day by day, because the money is not getting deposited into his accounts around USA ( I mean plants that grow money). |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 11-Sep-03 10:15 AM
Sadabichar = Bush learner_1 = Colin Powell darshankaka = Rumsfeld Boy, let these three guys rule the United States... their style is much more convincing than that of Bush+powell+rumsfeld. These trio have presented unrefutable evidences and arguments that proves Pushkar's WMD (Weapons of Mass Deception). And the plus side is, money will be saved by Nepalese around the world by not donating Pushkar. On the contrary, when US declared war and invaded war... the consequences have called for more money to be spent. I thoroughly appreciate this thread. |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 12-Sep-03 07:22 AM
Of course, now onwards people think twoce before donating money to Pushkar Shah for his surviving without salary lifestyle. Not only that, it's even saving money without salary!! |
| realist | Posted
on 12-Sep-03 07:07 PM
Man what are you going to do Pusker. You have a long explanation ahead. Good Luck |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 14-Sep-03 05:07 PM
I think Puskar Shah will be taking hermitage in Florida... after all those scandal after scandal... Man! He has been stripped completely naked...au naturel! |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 15-Sep-03 01:32 PM
My Thoughts: I think this guy figured that he will scan the world and make a couple of hundred thousand bucks in 15 years and settle down comfortably. He is not for REAL. People that refuse to believe that they had been conned are those proud people of Sajha that still want to support him out of shame that they have been conned. They will never admit this fact. It seems his supporters are all gundas. There is an illiterate gunda, the GUNDA himself. This guy openly threatens to obliterate you. And there is a intelectual prep school snotty gunda ASHU who telle you to buzz off and leave Pushkar alone in more subtle and intelligent way. Anyway ... they have their rights. Facts: May 2001, he travelled to Winnipeg Canada. Here we raised approximately $1500 Canadian for him. We were conned. We thought he was good for Nepal. He then travelled to Minneapolis to be at the ANMA convention where I understand he raised about $1500 US green cash. Now, more numbers. He left Winnipeg Wednesday morning. He arrived in Minneapolis Sunday morning. This is a 750 KM trek. 750 KMs in four days. When some of the convention attendees questioned him on this he simply smiled and said he took short cuts. Yeah right!!! So from Minneapolis he wend directly to Chicago and eastern US. He did not come back to Winnipeg to resume his trans-canada trek. No way did he do trans canada trek from Vancouver to Toronto. No way. He went to Toronto from Newyork. Those are the facts. I don't care he he is making money on all these. Good for him. BUT DON'T LIE TO US PUSHKAR ....!! |
| Learner_1 | Posted
on 15-Sep-03 02:52 PM
Wow, I thought Pushkar might have crossed the Trans-Canada Highway (at least from Vancouver to Toronto). But I always doubted it and it came true that he even didn't biked from Winnipeg to Toronto. You know, the distance between Winnipeg and Toronto is 2143 km (distances calculated attached below). So When I did calculation to see if Pushkar actually biked 80,000 km, I found almost 35,000 kms hina mina (cheating) missing from his claimed distance. Now at pushkarshah.com website he has already posted that he has biked 89,300 km so far. How can that be possible, when he always says that he uses only bike to travel while on land (except when he has to cross ocean he uses plane and ship/boats). He repeatedly lies in order to make impression and thereby to collect donations as much as possible to amass. It seems now I have to do re-calculation since he never biked 2143 kms between winnipeg and toronto, while I had taken 4000 km in Canada. Not only that we will surely find too much hina mina (short comings) even in his claimed 28,500 km biked in first 21 countries around Asia. When I will have time, I will do better calculation. 
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| Learner_1 | Posted
on 15-Sep-03 03:18 PM
And about that trip from Winnipeg to Minneapolis, boy, it's impossible to cover the 750 km in four days, which is almost biking 190 km per day. And Pushkar defending his claim... saying that he took a short cut is so deplorable. I mean, look at the map above... the straight line distance between Winnipeg and Minneapolis is almost 700 kms. How on earth can he make any shorter than that by taking short cuts.. He is a BIG LIAR. If he had taken any short cuts than the highway route, he would be much much slower in bkining through the forests than biking along the Highways.. C'mon it's too much of cheating people. 
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| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 16-Sep-03 08:36 AM
I wonder if Pushkar and his cronies have anything to say about the above two or three postings. And Ashu pleas don't tell me to identify myself! We come to these pages to make ANON remarks that are completely true but might not be able to make as ourselves for concernes that people like GUNDA might terrorize our friends and family! |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 16-Sep-03 09:20 AM
Interesting: Pushkar's account of his trek from Winnipeg to MN: May 23 - North Dakota, USA I met Nick Lee in a gas station in Grand Forks. He took me to his home, phoned many places and in few minutes people started coming in cars after cars. He also called ABC television. After the interview, we went to the university park, where Nick had started a small picnic. They opened beers, took pictures, test-rode my cycle, sang and danced He did all this and still managed to travel 750 KM to Minneapolis in 4 days. Pushkar must be SUPERMAN ... or a SUPER LIAR. There is no need to lie Pushkar ... we Nepalese are very gullible, just tell us the truth and we will understand. We will still give you money. BTW my family donated $200 for his "cause"... |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 16-Sep-03 09:21 AM
- http://www.thamel.com/puskar/2/guestbook.html Hey Mr.Shah,It seems different have people have different ideas about you. Also I think instead of spreading peace you are spreadin hatred and revenge in people's mind wherever you go. Look at our 2 twin towers. Not only that there are other stories i have come across about you. So what is this about? what are you really upto? Like Mr Tenzin said, are you really doin a bike tour ?? Ms. Koirala VA USA - Thursday, October 18, 2001 at 14:15:00 (EDT) actually i meet him on sydney last year and we also collect some money for him.but we don't think he was travel by bycycle when he was in here we seen him allways moving in taxi . so we have a bet confuse about him sanju roka sydney, nsw australia - Friday, October 05, 2001 at 10:54:11 (EDT) I would just like to correct your map on Pushkar's journey. He did indeed ride across North America - landed in Vancouver and rode via Calgary to Winnipeg. From there he headed down through Minnesota and Chicago area reentering Canada at Niargra Falls. From there he rode to Montreal and then south back into the States and to New York. I know this because Pushkar stayed with me in Calgary and with friends in WInnipeg and Niagra-St Catherines. I wish Pushkar a safe journey as he heads south through the States and onto South America. thanks Kevin Baggott Kevin Baggott Calgary, AB Canada - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 15:29:54 (EDT) |
| phateko_kattu | Posted
on 16-Sep-03 10:12 AM
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| Learner_1 | Posted
on 16-Sep-03 12:58 PM
You cannot suppress the truth with lies and deceptions. The ANMA convention was held on May 26 and 27 in Bloomington, Minneapolis, MN. Pushkar reached there at this convention on Sunday, the 27th May 2001. Now if you check this site ( - http://www.pushkarshah.com/additionalContent.asp?ContentName=United+States+of+America ) , it tells you that he reached Grand Fork in North Dakota on 23 May. This May 23 is Wednesday. However, Pushkar left Winnipeg on Wednesday Morning to reach Grand Forks on the same day afternoon??????? How can he bike 236 kms from Winnipeg to Grand Forks within few hours????? 
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| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 16-Sep-03 02:42 PM
I am not sure exactly how long he stayed in Winnipeg but I do know that he went to Hindu temple and spoke perfect Hindi (better than he spoke Nepali from what I hear) and raised about CDN $800. So he has made fool of not just us Nepalese but also our neighbours and our religion. He has lied at the Hindu Temple! But ... I will find out how long he stayed in Winnipeg. I know every Nepali in Winnipeg! |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 16-Sep-03 06:57 PM
Bilbo jee: That's a shocking news how he made profit out of religion as well. But Pushkar said that he never belieed in organized religion.. then why did he go there in Hindu Temple and raised money at the stop itself from indians as well. He gave this inteview to Rochester's Chronicle saying that he doesn't believe in organized religion. - http://www.thamel.com/puskar/DemocratandChronicle.htm He said religion is not what motivates him. "I was born Hindu, but I don't believe in organized religion," he said."I believe in human relationships." |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 17-Sep-03 09:01 AM
DARSHANKAKA Ji, I don't know why Pushkar does or say what it does or says. All I know is, my very reliable source tells me that he did go to the Hindu Temple in Winnipeg. In any regards Pushkar basically will say and do anything to get some "donations". He is the NEPALESE MAGNE for the 21st century. |
| realist | Posted
on 17-Sep-03 08:03 PM
This guy is a smooth 21st century crook. Good name nepali magne. |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 18-Sep-03 07:42 AM
I think Nepali Magne is a bit softer name for him. We should call him "International Nepali Thug". I think within one month Pushkar Thug visited so many places and in each place he collected large sum of moneys. It appears he reached in Calgary a day or two before May 1st 2001 ( there is a proof I saw newspaper cutting in his wabpage about CalgaryHerald news). Then went to Regina, Winnipeg, Grand Forks, Minneapolis in May month, then finally on June 2, 2001 he reached Chicago, Illinois. I cannot know how much distance he biked from Calgary to Chicago.. but I am sure he satyed couple of days in each of those cities to collect moneys... How can this be possible? It's impossible to do such a journey on bike alone. So Is he a biker or hitchhiker??? Has he left Hollywood, FL for next journey in South America? Isn't Sept 17 the date he is flying to Equador? Spreading Peace Message with all the ill-thoughts in mind by riding planes!!!!! Shit!! |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 18-Sep-03 11:38 AM
Yeah, the pushkarshah.com website now says that he has reached in Quito, Equador. It will be quite intersting to keep our eyes open on how he will keep on riding the mileage in that website... Of course... 89,300 kms is the cheated distance he is displaying in that webapge when we all now know how he plays tricks by hitch hiking most of the time between the two cities, and how he gets off the vehicle just a few kilometers before reaching the next city. Do you think Nepalese in North America should sue him for lying to people and cheating the distances in order to raise somuch money? |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 18-Sep-03 01:53 PM
89,300 kms re? Pushkar is a Great great LIAR. How can that 89,300 be correct in pushkarshah.com website? It's not possible at all. When he was in Nepal this year, he told everybody there that he cycled 83,000 kms. That was in May 23, 2003. Read the following news in Kathmandu Post, according to which he also got Rs. 100,000 in tha tfelicitation program. - http://www.kantipuronline.com/archive/kpost/2003-5-27/kp_valnation.htm Cyclist Shah, 34, who started the world tour on 16th Saun 2055 BS from Charikot, Dolakha with the aim of disseminating the message of peace and love has now completed 83,000 kilometre and been in 51 countries. Cyclist Shah informed that he will start his tour two weeks later and reach Morocco of Africa through Latin America. Now if that 83,000 kms is true.. then He must have started his journey in around June 15, 2003. But actually he did not do so.. He came to Hollywood.. and stayed there.. and apparently didn't start his tour until August. In August only he went to Mexico..and yet immediately came back to Hollywood FL. So my question is how the hell pushkar is claiming 89,300 kms? where did he biked the 6,300 kms within July? IMPOSSIBLE.. He is a BIG FAT LIAR, who managed to cheat all the Nepalese in USA. |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 18-Sep-03 01:56 PM
Sorry not May 23. It was May 26 when he was felicitated in Nepal, abd the news published on 27th May 2003. |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 18-Sep-03 02:04 PM
Shah who aims at touring 160 countries by 2066 BS stopped his tour at Los Angeles, America and returned home. He could not continue it due to financial problem. Most importantly this tells you what a BIG FAT LIAR Pushkar is. He went back to Nepal from USA somewhere in January/Feb 2003. And there he goes telling everybody that he stopped his tour because of financial problems? What the hell is that? We know that he has collected so much money in while in USA, and he has somany bank accounts around USA with tons of money saved. And yet to win the sympathy of Nepalse he goes back to Nepal tell them that he got money problem.. Hell with this guy!!!! |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 18-Sep-03 02:07 PM
Shah who aims at touring 160 countries by 2066 BS stopped his tour at Los Angeles, America and returned home. He could not continue it due to financial problem. Most importantly this tells you what a BIG FAT LIAR Pushkar is. He went back to Nepal from USA somewhere in January/Feb 2003. And there he goes telling everybody that he stopped his tour because of financial problems? What the hell is that? We know that he has collected so much money in while in USA, and he has somany bank accounts around USA with tons of money saved. And yet to win the sympathy of Nepalse he goes back to Nepal tell them that he got money problem.. Hell with this guy!!!! |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 18-Sep-03 02:17 PM
Sorry, i found just now that Pushkar the BIG FAT LIAR went back to Nepal on Oct 5, 2002 Saturday. - http://www.nepalnews.com.np/archive/2002/october/arc493.htm Pushkar Shah returns Saturday Pushkar Shah, traveling around the world in his bicycle spreading a message of peace, is returning home Saturday, the World Cyclist Foundation Nepal said. Shah started his mission on November 11,1988, with the slogan "World Peace and Love". He has criss-crossed 51 countries so far covering 82,000 kilometers. Shah is returning from Los Angeles. nepalnews.com br Oct 4 |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 18-Sep-03 06:38 PM
Bhura ho timi haru ko kura le wakka ,dikka, byakka, pyakka paryo.if you find Pushkar i think you gone kill him. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 18-Sep-03 08:55 PM
Paap Le Polyo ki Kya ho, My Dear MaahaGunda? So did you go and see Pushkar off at the Airport towards Equador? |
| sewak | Posted
on 19-Sep-03 08:49 AM
Premdai: Just appreciate what he did. Whether he made money or not, that is different question? At least he has a courage to do? Who else has done such a thing? All we do is bitch about someone who has been successful. For a moment, lets take a pride in our countryman. Just a thought....... |
| kasaree | Posted
on 19-Sep-03 10:16 AM
tall poppies anyone?????????????? |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 19-Sep-03 11:32 AM
Well no as Nepali we have to stand up for the truth. Just because the politicians in Nepal has courage to take bribe and swindle the Nepali people, doesn't mean that we should be proud of them. No No No... you guys are missing a point. Being untruthful, lying, cheating, deceiving, and dishonesty are not the qualities that we should be proud of. Just because he has a courage to "ride" his bike around (although how much he rides has been questioned) and raised money deceitfully doesn't mean that we should all be proud of him! No people no! I would welcome Pushkar Ji to go to his website and refute some of the things that he is being accused of here. Get of the "bike" man come clean!! |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 20-Sep-03 09:59 AM
Sewak jee: Don't be so naive by appreciating what Pushkar is doing. Open your eyes.. with all those proofs presented in this thread.. still you are not reasoning properly.. He is indeed a swindler.... and Nepalese in USA or Canada shoould not feel ashamed for being tricked by this mean fellow. There is still time to wake up for people. Can't you see how his cheeks have turned fatty shinny puffy.. exactly the way those Nepalese leaders became after stepping into power. Pushkar's face doesn't even look anymore like that of a biker. He is not serious about biking at all. He is putting all bogus kms in his journey. He is not truthful at all. See around the world, how other bikers are doing.. how truthful they are when they log each km they bike in thier logbook... they exactly record which places they went, whether they went there by bike or flight, and how they have specifically declared their aims and how they fulfilled. Look at this spreadsheet of a guy who toured around the world by bike.. - http://home.earthlink.net/~michaelclancy2/Mileage.XLS - http://www.adv-cycling.org/journals/ |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 05:59 AM
Dharshan kaka, Is it true that Puskar got $1800 in Calgary. WAO! every city he visited he got at least $1500 in North American cities with free food and loging from the nepalese. Then he goes back to nepal and claimes he has no money left to continue is journey. Then again he gets some money in nepal and flies back to north america.....money money everywhere ! without riding bike he travels in buses and cars! Then his associates quoting Puskar that Nepalese are not generous enough in North America! What a shame! This guy needs to be reported to all the newspapers in Nepal to make a red alert notice to stop him from cheating innocent nepalese both in nepal and abroad. Now we just came to know in this thread that he is having afairs with an elderly american in Florida in the name of biking. what a swindler! I am wondering if he is a real nepali guy? |
| Elizabeth | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 07:25 AM
Posted on 09-09-03 by Sanobai "Why doesn't this guy go out and get a real job? I had an american friend in florida who met him, started an affair with this guy (she's much older than him, even) then came to Nepal last fall to visit him. She hears from him now and then and has become something like a "sugar mamma" to this guy...he obviously is getting something out of keeping on this absurd journey (like good sex and money from stupid people who think he is a reliable"charity case"). Like that Mexico story, which sounded totally fishy to me from the get-go...I, by the way, am american married to a nepali man and live in the USA.. " Posted on 9/21 by Pipaldanda: "Now we just came to know in this thread that he is having afairs with an elderly american in Florida in the name of biking." So you "know" this from this thread, huh? Funny.....nobody has called or come to interview me before posting their so-called knowledge of me and my affair with Pushkar on this thread. So, it must be fact then, along with everything else, right? ...and now you've gone to new lows referring to me as "elderly" -- ouch, that really hurts! I have been following these postings and each one gets more and more absurd and far fetched based on what? Speculation, rumor, conjecture...... You really believe everything everyone "claims" to know? Well....guess what.....I can tell you first hand that I personally have been the target of some pretty slanderous remarks on this thread which are based on absolutely NOTHING!! Don't believe me? Well, here's the proof in the way of a personal apology from "Sanobai". Maybe she (Maggie) will have the guts to retract her comments publicly on this thread, but I doubt it seeing as she had the audacity to post the crap that she did in the first place. "Elizabeth, I apologize. I was online late night before last, I was having a bit too much to drink and found the postings about Pushkar (who I have never met, by the way) I assumed it was the Pushkar you knew. I wrote things that were inappropriate and just guesses on my part. I don't know you at all, so I had no right to say those things."..... I supposed the "experts" will say that I have made this up, so I'm probably wasting my time with this anyway...... One more thing, if you're going to make things up, at least be a little more creative and exciting. Either say that I'm a young, hot babe with big, fake boobs or an elderly, blue-haired lady with no teeth and drool running down my face. If you're going to lie, at least make it fun reading please! Thanks. |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 08:10 AM
Dear Elizabeth: 1. If someone wrote that Pushkar is having affair with Elderly Woman.. that person didn't refer to you there at all, right? So you better should have kept quiet. 2. There is another reason for you to be quiet. Since that person (sanobai) talked about Elderly Woman while you consider yourself NOT THAT ONE. So why you are bursting here LOUD? 3. You said that you got apology from Sanobai and quoted in your posting.. but that doesn't become legitimate. Sorry about that.. looks like you are the one who is drunk at the time of posting your last comment. |
| sadabichar | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 08:44 AM
Sorry, I can't keep quiet anymore, when person like Elizabeth presents third class explanations to cover up whatever she is trying to cover up for Pushkar despite mountains and mountains of proofs have been presented in this thread. Why it's her third class explanation? In the personal apology sent by Sanobai (Maggie?) to Elizabeth, Elizabeth very cleverly tried to explain that posting by Sanobai earlier in this thread was written under the influence of alcohol. Remember here very carefully, this concocted apology says the posting by sanobai was specifically written "LATE NIGHT". BUT, according to posting by Sanobai, Posted on 09-09-03 8:08 AM Reply | Notify Admin Why doesn't this guy go out and get a real job? I had ....... Folks, check out the time of posting, It is 8:08 AM . This time as appeared in sajha.com thread is pacific time at the west coast of USA. Now as you move from west to east coast of USA, the time will rather increases like 9:08AM in Mountain zone, 10:08AM in Central, 11:08AM in Eastern zone. So wherever this Sanobai (Maggie?) is residing in these time zones, the time she wrote would be between 8:08AM to 11:08AM. Now is that "LATE NIGHT" as explained by Elizabeth?????????? It would be rather better for Elizabeth to encourage Pushkar to make himself truthful on each km he biked and each km he sailed/flown and instruct him not to lie and deceive people around the world than coming here in this thread and trying to present lame explanations on such questions as whether Pushkar is having affairs with Elderly woman or not. |
| Elizabeth | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 09:11 AM
Dear Prem, 1. It sure sounds like you are Maggie's (Sanobai) husband, Prem. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. 2. If I'm correctly understanding your message, you are saying that by my acknowledging that posters on this thread are referring to me means that I am agreeing with what they are saying? I don't think so! 3. Per my previous posting below, I have been quite open about who I am and what my relationship is to Pushkar. Nothing has changed and I have nothing to hide. 4. Why are you suggesting that I be quiet? Do I not have the right to express myself on this thread? Did I miss the rule that says that people who actually know some facts and do no hide their real identity are not permitted to post on the website? 5. Will the REAL old bag in Florida who is having a sordid affair with the criminal Nepalese biker please identify yourself so that you may be interviewed? Hehehe! 6. It's before noon here....too early to start drinking anything stronger than Starbucks! But nice try anyway.... Posted By Elizabeth on 08-26-03 7:19 AM My name is Elizabeth and I live in Hollywood, Florida. I met Pushkar Shah almost 2 years ago as he was cycling through Florida on his way to Cuba. We have been friends ever since. I have been following the comments on this thread and have chosen to remain silent until now because most of the statements are so ridiculous and outrageous as to not even merit an answer or explanation. As you can see, I am NOT anonymous because I have absolutely nothing to hide and some of you may already know me and can vouch for my credibility. |
| Elizabeth | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 09:26 AM
Sadabichar, Will you not be satisfied with anything less than DNA evidence?!!! Who are you, Sherlock Holmes?? Unbelievable!! If you'd like to email me directly at expchef@att.net, I will be happy to forward you Maggie's (Sanobai) entire email and then you can contact her directly yourself to verify. I did not write those words, I only cut and pasted directly from her email. If it makes you happy, I will also give you my phone number and you can call me. Hey, just fly down and visit -- what the hell. I have no interest or motivation for covering up for anyone. I speak only for myself and what I know to be true. I try not to speculate or conjecture about that which I do not know first-hand and I resent the implication that I am lying or trying to cover up for someone or something. Would you also like for me to send you paint chips from my house with Pushkar's DNA to prove that he was house painting? Here I was under the impression that Nepali's are so honest and trusting and you are about the most mistrusting person/people I have ever not met in my life! Get a grip!!!! Elizabeth |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 11:10 AM
yes I know on this thread and I read on this thread that Puskar had an affair with a lady much older than him in Florida, sorry not elderly and perhaps not Elizabeth ( I haven't mentioned it and it is not mentioned in the thread unless she claims to be herself, I am not blaming Elizabeth who according to her (just read in this very thread) own wording is a young, hot babe with big, fake boobs or an elderly, blue-haired lady with no teeth and drool running down her face. I am not going to lie and it appears nobody is lying except Puskar himself and his associates. From city to city people have spoken about the real truth in the web about the ridiculous claims made by Puskar. After all he is not biking he is in a money making trip. The only people who are lying are people like Gunda and mahaGunda and deshbhakta nepali ( please note mahagunda and deshbhakta nepali same) who are trying to cover up the real truth either by means of giving a threat or foul language to the people who have brought these truths to light.. |
| czar | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 11:11 AM
"Here I was under the impression that Nepali's are so honest and trusting and you are about the most mistrusting person/people I have ever not met in my life! Get a grip!!!! Elizabeth " Miss Elisabeth, This is a thread that been given a wide berth by most of my Nepali bretheren who visit sajha. That a handful of hardcore disbelievers and assorted conspiracy theorists have continued to yammer on ad nauseum is indeed a sight to behold. That you are frustrated by the accusations and entrenched disbelief is understandable. The only reason I popped in was to read what you, a so fairly level headed person, had to say. What compells me to speak out now is your blanket condemnation of the entire Nepali populace at large. This is hardly agreeable, and I assure you its not a case of the locals banding together to attack the foreigner here. What is disappointing is that you would use such a statistically insignificant sample of Nepalis to arrive at such a weighty conclusion. Allow me to borrow your method and see where it leads: based on MTV videos and B grade American movies, are we to conclude that all American women are nothing but harlots ? North of Hollywood is the largest porn industry in the world where participants are often paid no more than a few hundred dollars to perform. This data is from an survey conducted by a respected economic journal. What hasty conclusions are one to draw from this? To further strengthen that line of reasoning, all one has to do is switch on the tv whereupon one would be presented with irrefutable evidence to conclude that America is mostly populated by mindless drooling morons whose intellectual repertoire is limited to football, baseball and strategies for jumping someone's bones come Friday nite. Unfair and inaccurate, no? |
| Elizabeth | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 11:55 AM
Dear Czar, Point well stated and I totally agree. With that said, let me clarify that in my condemnation the "you" I was referring to are those hardcore disbelievers and conspiracy theorists (and Sadabichar in particular) who have continued to yammer on this particular thread. I would not make a blanket condemnation about ANY entire populace at large and I regret it if anyone interpreted it that way. Certainly not intended. Elizabeth |
| czar | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 02:17 PM
That was gracious of you, Miss Elisabeth. poste script: More words have been written, and I am adding to it, than every yard he may or may not have cycled. At the rate we're going, this thread is likely to be longer than his trip! [What trip some might say, its all in his fevered imagination and is a carefully crafted illusion. David Copperfield, step aside !] Perhaps a 'recall Pushar Shah vote ' might be worth contemplating for his detractors ? In some courts of public opinon, the man has already been hung, drawn and quartered. What else remains to put a close to this sajha saga? And now, En garde !.. Let the battle rage on ! |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 04:46 PM
Khabardaar! "khai na pai chhala ko topi lai" |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 21-Sep-03 08:44 PM
What to say Elizabeth? You have screwed Yourself!!!! Take Care!!! |
| sankaa | Posted
on 22-Sep-03 12:34 AM
Sadbichar, Thanks for bringing some imp infos about Pushkar. I think , Pushkar should write something here now . It's about that time, I guess. I open this thread everyday and read lots of stuff about pushkar; both supporting and against him. I don't have any problems with any of the questions that have been brought against Puskha here, although some accuasation against him seem base less.However, the stuff that have been brought up about Elizabeth and Pushkar are not only irrelavent but also very cheap and low standard. I am shocked to see that educated Nepali living in the USA can have such low level mentality too. Why is it even the matter of concern if Pushar and Elizabeth have any kind of relationship or not? Why does it even matter if Pushkar knows Elizabeth or not? It's non of our business , i think. Pushkar is a free man. He can make friendship with anyone he wants. I am only losing faith on his motives because after all the questions that have been brought up here , he hasn't put little effort to give any explanations, YET. I , being a Nepali , would like to apologize Elizabeth for all the unnecessary arguments that have been brought up here regarding her relationship with Pushkar. Also, I would like to ask my fellow brothers and sisters to stop embarassing us by concerning on pointless information about other person's personal life. Pushkar is getting help and support from Nepali living in the USA for being a Nepali. So , i do think that he should explain some of the things that have been brought up here. Elazabeth , would you please point this thread to Pushkar if you happen to be in contact with him. You don't have to if you don't want to though. Sadbichar , would you please email pushkar or try to get a hold of him if you can and let us know what he has got to say. There is no use of writing all these stories if the person you are writing is not even aware of. peace and love, sankaa |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 22-Sep-03 12:45 PM
Sankaa said everything smartly. I concur!! |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 22-Sep-03 02:08 PM
Elizabeth, don't make me laugh by suspecting that I am the husband of Maggie (Sanobai). Guilty mind is always suspcious So just don't throw craps here to prove yourself guilty. Somehow you want to make connection between Sanobai to Maggie and then Maggie to Maggie's husband Prem!!!! Those are all your make-ups. Firstly, you could not prove that Sanobai is Maggie (The so-called personal apology inscribed by yourself says at the last that I don't know you at all, so I had no right to say those things."..... . You got caught there, right? I am sorry about that. Therefore, that cut and paste apology you posted is simply a make up of yours. Secondly, you again imagined hypothetical Prem being husband of Maggie (which might be hypotehtical as well). Somehow you played hard to relate that hypothetical Prem to me. I am still wondering how can a personlike me who is still unmarried could be husband of a woman whom I don't know at all. I think your mind got messed up with something as soon as Pushkar left Hollywood and thus you got free time to bewilder yourself with idiotic imaginations or conspiracy. Thirdly, as Sadabichar pointed out with evidence that if that personal apology you 've received is true, then that must have been written in day broad light... but the apology itself says it was written at late night after a bit too much drink. Don't try to cheat people. "Late Night" is specifically mentioned in that apology. But you again tried to play trick by saying that how can you be drunk in the late morning with STARBUCKs.. I would say "Why NOT?" One can be drunk at any time. But you trapped yourself by perhaps making up that apology quoting LATE NIGHT and Alocohol Influence. I suggested you that you should have kept quiet, because no one in this thread has ever said that "Elizabeth" is a mistress of "Pushkar" or vice-versa. Sanobai did write that Pushkar has SUGAR MAMA in Florida.. but that SUGAR MAMA is not Elizabeth. Whatever Sanobai wrote may be true or not. And here you are, making mole into montain by whinning in this thread. That only makes people think if "Guilty mind is always Suspicious" is what riding on you. But thanks for telling us that you have a joint account with Pushkar Shah in Florida. That information is extremely important for this forum. |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 22-Sep-03 02:21 PM
Also, I think we should not be sidelined from the main theme of this thread "Pushkar Shah and $$$$" due to Elizabeth's interception into this thread with her non-issues. Compelling evidences are being surfaced here that proves Pushkar's WMD (Weapon of Mass Deception). Probably it might be her trick to change the course of the main theme of discussion here in this forum. |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 22-Sep-03 02:24 PM
Couldn't agree more with Prem_dai. Well said !!! |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 22-Sep-03 04:12 PM
Oh this people make me want to scream.You guys (goooooroooooo) are so stupiiiiii!!!!!!! I can't believe that you are educated poeple.The world is in trouble if that is the case.You are angry young man like hungry sark and the only thing that will satisfy them is blood.Mr.Pushkar Shah is again in track."Kura garyo kurai ko dukha" |
| lovaboy | Posted
on 22-Sep-03 06:14 PM
"Goo lai chalaye ganauncha!" Elizabeth and other rational people in this forum. Stop justifying to the idiots. The saying in Nepali goes like " if you stir shit, it will stink." Your are wasting your time in dealing with these idiots. This particular thread needs to be left alone. Thi is by far the most popular thread in the forum so far. Good publicity is a bad publicity so leave it as is. don't waste your precious time. Czar well said on Elizabeth's comments! I hope she realizes that it was out of excitement and emotional uproar! peace! |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 22-Sep-03 07:48 PM
Puskar Shah the " copperfield magician from Nepal " just compare Puskar with David copperfield Copperfield, David - Magician David has completely changed and expanded the world of magic and illusion. He's been called a 'modern day Houdini', and the 'world's best magician'. In our interview he tells a little bit about how he started in magic and the other sides of him that make him tick. DM) You do almost 500 performances a year. Do you ever think of slowing down? Doesn't it take a toll on your life? DC) Well, fortunately, I love what I do, so even with this schedule, I never tire of performing in my chosen profession, the Art of Magic! |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 07:55 AM
Funny, yet sad to see this thread turn into an Anti-Pushkar circle jerk. |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 08:07 AM
All these people who have nothing to say but attack people personally are full of rubbish. We are not attacking Pushkar. I am sure he is a fine guy once you get to know him and contribute some money to his joint account with this flusie Liz who proves that Pushkar is commiting fornication BTW! I don't care about that. In light of all the inconsistencies in his statements and figures Pushkar should get off his high bike and step up to the plate and accept the responsibilty and openly admit that he has been defrauding Nepali people. Admit that, pack up your bags and go be with your family. You kids Pushkar, are suferring because you are not there. You are not being a good father to them and how about you poor wife. You have mentioned in the past that you did not get to spend a lot of time with your father because he was in the army and you would've liked to have spent some time.... well don't create a situation where you kids have to sometime in the future say ... I WOULD'VE LIKED TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH MY FATHER, PUSHKAR SHAH!! Namaste! BB |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 08:12 AM
You nailed it Bilbo.... |
| Darshankaka | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 08:35 AM
Pushkar has lot of things to explain about for sure. Her is another example which shows that Pushkar is a cheater. He gave this interview below where he said he doesn't believe in Buddha... THEN WHY THE HELL HE CARRIED SOIL FROM BUDDHA"S BIRTHPLACE LUMBINI AND WENT TO VARIOUS COUNTRY in the name of spreading the peace message. THIS guy stinks. - http://atlanta.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=6388&group=webcast When asked whether he was religious, Pushkar responded "I do not believe in Religion-- not in Buddha, not in Vishnu, not in Jesus Christ," and continued "I believe in human religion one universal god, just as there is one sun for all of us" He continued with a metaphor he was to repeat again and again "The world is one house, and we are the family living within it. We must learn to live together, as a family " |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 11:10 AM
No doubt about it. Pushkar has lost his credibility with the Nepali community in Canada, atleast, if not the whole world!! |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 01:42 PM
Does anyone from South America and Europe have anything to say about Mr. Cyclist? |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 02:25 PM
Here is another example how Pushkar Shah the Great cheated everyone by declaring that he biked 160 km in 4hours and 10 minutes. This Century Bike Tours' 100 mile (160km) event starts at 6 am.. and the organizers expect the riders to reach the finish line between 12 noon and 6 pm. Remember this 160 km route is not empty one.. the riders have to face everything from regular pedestrians and motor traffics along the 100 mile route. Now who will believe that Pushkar Shah with that heavy bike loaded with all sorts of things hanging in his bike can complete in simply 4:10 hours. Below i have given a road race results from Summer Olympic 2000 Sydney, which shows that in 240 km long Road Race event, the winner completed at the speed of only 43.6 km/hour in total time of 5 hours 29 mins. If pushkar completed the 160 kms road race in NY in 4:10 hors, his speed is 38.4 km/hour which is quite close to Olympic speed of 43.6 km/hour. Now people, tell me how can Pushakr do such a tremendous race riding with all that heavy bike compared to the Olympic road race course which has no abstructions at all. And also remember, the cyclist in the 240 km race uses the best bike and they don't carry anything in their cycle. This again proves that either he cheated the time of completion to us by writing such thing in his dairy or he took a SHORT CUT as usual of his habit rather than sticking to the race route. - http://www.wavemag.com.np/specials/pushkar/23may_10sep.htm 2001 September 9 Transportation Alternatives had organised Century Bike Tours today and as a world cyclist I was given free entrance. The rally had nearly 500 cyclists started an hour later. Each cyclist was given a route map. There were many women participants too. Many of them asked about my cycle and me when they passed by. Some of them recognized my flag. Some saw the writing on my t-shirt and asked with amazement if I was really from Nepal. Noticing the load on the back of my cylce, some would joke while others offered to help. I covered the 100 miles (160 km) bike tour, including Manhattan, Booklin, Queens and The Bronx, in 4 hours 10 minutes. Anantji had called many Nepalis to meet me at the finish point. They were happy that I took part in the tour. 2000 Sept. 27 Men's Road Race final (Olympic): 1. Jan Ullrich (Germany) 5:29:08 (43.64 kph) 2. Alexandre Vinokourov (Kazakhstan) 9 seconds behind 3. Andreas Kloeden (Germany) 12 seconds - http://espn.go.com/oly/summer00/results/cycling.html |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 04:48 PM
That is the art of magic! Mr. Puskar copperfield never slows down. He had completely changed and expanded the world of bicycle magic with his most illusive spurious and dubious claims of travelled distances. He is the wisest fool on earth to make others believe his story. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 05:25 PM
Mr. kaka and your vijilante gang, Sometimes news paper or magazine can print wrong word .Like times or kilometers.That is not Pushkar's mistake.Anyway one nepali ko chhoro going to round the world.I,m proud with his work.Mr Pushkar shah is lier,cheater,magic man,21st century's nepali magne,no no no he is the international thug.You are the "sojho" nepali people leaving in Canada or America Underground .Gas station,Restauren or xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.Bichara!!!Pushkar le thagyo. how much?Wakeup man ! get real life.Life is big road.Live with Bob marley .There is many thing to do.Not only follow Pushkar's pu.That is the land of oppurtunity.No woman no cry. |
| tabasco | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 10:47 PM
hey gunda and mahagunda i've listening to your crap for a long time now. if you have GUTS and even 1% sure that you are not a bastard just disclose your name here (name wud be more than enough) next thing you wud see is some one ringing your door bell to kick your f*kin ass.i wud make sure that you wud atleast think 10 times before you write anything here. obviously you wud ak me to disclose myself so that you can do..blah blah....don't worry bro..just gime your name and i will be there..be prepared...may be you wud like to invite your other gundas for help...do it do it....but i'll tell you one thing you will regret this for your entire life...thats for 100% sure... waiting to kick your ass.. :) |
| sankaa | Posted
on 23-Sep-03 10:50 PM
wow.. brave gurkhas.. fighting in sajha.. wow.. what a way to argue. bravoo bravoooooo.... silly punks..... |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 24-Sep-03 07:32 AM
Come on Tabasco let's just present facts and Pushkar Copperfield (PC) will be punished appropriately. Let Sajha.com be a place to present facts. Don't worry about these other distractors of the truth!! Let's not get into a "Road Raze" here! We are not "vijilante" Maahagunda Ji, just presenter of the facts! If you don't like the TRUTH you have no place in these forums. Just close your eyes and go to sleep and pretend that PC is a saint. You are entitled to that, the same way we are entitled to present facts!! BB |
| czar | Posted
on 24-Sep-03 11:18 AM
All have the freedom to express things as they see fit. In doing so, however, there are several factors worth keeping in mind. Facts: the accuracy and veracity of information has to be unassailable. Presenting hearsay and gossip and passing it off as 'facts' are dishonest. This thread seems to be loaded with such. Attitude: this is a place to inform, learn, discuss and debate. Rhetoric if fine, but should retain some semblance of good taste and restraint. I have seen verbal abuse, mudlslinging, character assasination, slander and outright threats of physical harm here. What justifies all of this ? So, the anonymity of the net gives everyone the RIGHT to allow full reign to the REPTILIAN part of their brains to come to the fore? All our responsibilities to behave DECENTLY and with CONSIDERATION is scattered to the four winds ? Our society values COURTESY towards EACH OTHER. Yet, this is filled with disgraceful exhibitions of spite, dishonesty and disgusting behaviour. Is this who we are ? We are EDUCATED people doing this ? Count me IN, I am here too, aren't I ? Time and time again, many people who are well mannered and mild in real life are transformed into bigotted foul mouthed socipaths with amazing rapidity on the net. Ah, and lets not forget MISOGYNISTS. We also seem particularly adpet at ABUSING WOMEN. A few sane people have said NO MORE, but you guys just don't get it, do you? Are we all collectively INSANE? This is NOT a DISCUSSION anymore. This is a RAVE column and a CIRCUS. It has long since reached ZERO credibility and has added NOTHING of value to either SAJHA or society at large. For all the screams for him to stand up and defend himself, has it not occured to ANYONE that Pushkar Shah is NOT answerable to a single one of you here. You have a gripe, go vent on his website or write him an email. Let's show some RESPECT for SAN's DEDICATION and GENEROSITY and all the hard work he puts in to keep this site going. STOP abusing and WASTING sajha resources. |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 24-Sep-03 04:38 PM
Puskar is getting the message! Gunda and Mahagunda are his inner circle associates or himself speaking. They wanted to stop the thread long time ago in the beggining of this thread by threatening Sadabichar when sadabichar presented his viewpoint. That's how I got interested to know what the facts were. The facts that are being discussed here are not from newspaper or magazine, it is from Puskar's website and claims he made in his website appears to be bogus. People from city to city are speakng out about their experiences of puskar's visit which is a good information to shear with each other. So this thread will alert the people to think twice before contributing money for his personal benifit not for uplifting our national image. So I don't agree that the thread has zero credibility. The reason Puskar is avoiding is because he is unable to face the facts. He reads the thread and and his anger appear in the form of mahagunda senceless barking at this site without giving any proper explanations. |
| dharma_sankat | Posted
on 24-Sep-03 07:01 PM
Very Well said Pipaljee.. It's not like the people in Canada are only aware of the ill-intentions of PC (Pushkar Copperfield).. slowly people here in USA are also waking up simply because of this thread in sajha.com. It's sometimes quite amazing how a person like pUshkar actually swept the whole USA like a hurricane blowing away the hard-earned cash from Nepalese with him. After all Pushkar is also a Nepali.. and we have to agree that mostly nepalese in USA poured money in Puhskar's moneyplant. It's no wonder that a nepali tricked nepalese in USA... simply by living in USA doesn't make a nepali more intelligent. Any cunning fellow who never has come to USA can always cheat a nepali.. But sadly this Nepali came right in front of thier door in USA to trick them. However, I do not think Nepalse in USA should feel ashamed about it. Things happen. Even in USA there have been superb fraud cases that swindled many many intelligents americans. The thread has become very popular to raise awareness among Nepalis how they have been cheated by a Nepali. So credits must go to the Webmaster of Sajha.com. It's no waste of resources.. think about how much money will not be wasted now onwards. this thread has shown how to reveal the hidden truths from Pushkar's case... it has evolved idead on analysing the facts and figures. So Anybody in USA reading this thread now will think little bit different (something like Hansiya jasto sojo) way. Remember the events when pushkar visited your city.. and remember this thread.. something will strike in your mind regarding where the discrepencies are embedded in Pushkar's story. Don't be ashamed.. don;t feel shy to speak up. We do get ripped off now and then.. but we must speak up about it.. so that our friends (brothers sisters relatives) will not fall prey to such fraud again. |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 25-Sep-03 08:57 AM
Dharma_sankat Ji and Pipaldanda Ji are absolutely correct. This is raising awareness. If anyone thinks this thread is abusing the resources provided by San Ji ... you are in denial. San ji, righfully so, created this site to allow free communication between Nepalese (if that's not so SAN Ji please tell us that). Sajha.com "seeks to provide a cyber location for discussing ideas and 'CONCERNS' related to Nepal and the Nepalis." The misguided actions of Pushkar Shah to defraud Nepalese community around the world is a CONCERN related to "Nepal and Nepalis." So if anyone thinks otherwise, they are simply trying to curtail/muzzle and be a barrier to the Truth and that's not nice Czar Ji! And that's Mr. Czar is abuse of Sajha resources. BB |
| Learner_1 | Posted
on 25-Sep-03 09:57 AM
Hi Bilbo: Good postings on Sajha.com regarding Pushkar Shah and $$$$. Do you have any idea how many days Pushkar styaed in winnipeg? And how many days he might have spent in Regina? I came to know that he styaed in Calgary for at least 9 days... and he even went to schools to raise donations in Calgary. So it seems he arrived in Calgary somewhere in April 28 or 29 , 2001 and then Calgary Herald published news about him on May 1, 2001. You said he left winnipeg on May 23, and then reached minneapolis on 27th May, 2001. Then I have found that He reached in Chicago, IL on June 2, 2001. So it appeares that he hardly spent 15 days on road to reach Chicago from Calgary between May 1 and June 2. The distance between them is almost 2780km. Therefore it is impossible for him to travel 180 km every day whenever he was on road to reach Chicago like that... if i have better info on how many days he spent in each city between Calgary and Chicago.. I will post this discrepencies in the sajha.com with the map. Please let me know if you have any information. Thanks |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 25-Sep-03 10:05 AM
He stayed in Winnipeg for about 3 to 4 days. People in Winnipeg weren't 100 percent sure whether it was 3 or 4 days. I do know that he got a ride from Winnipeg to the border (75 km). BB |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 25-Sep-03 10:25 AM
So, what's the point of calling his journey "Biking World in 11 years"? It appears everywhere he is hitch-hiking.. Is he a Biker or hitch-hiker? Bilbo jee that explained now how he reached Grand Forks in North Dakota on the same day he left winnipeg. It's now quite obvious that he also hitch-hiked after crossing the Canada-US border. Oh ma, this is really ugly... Looks like he is travelling everywhere bu bus, truck, planes and boats.. and that bike is only for a show... ha ha.. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 26-Sep-03 07:25 AM
In reality Pushkar is indeed a Hitch-Biker.... |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 26-Sep-03 08:20 AM
I don't know how to explain this picture... but this is the same phenomena we saw in Girija, KPB, Madhav Nepal and many other leaders before and after the Jana-andolan periods. 
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| dharma_sankat | Posted
on 26-Sep-03 01:31 PM
I wonder if anybody abroad saw Pushkar wearing dhaka-topi after he left Nepal. I understnad he should be wearing helmut than the nepali dhaka-topi while biking... but how about the times when he is not biking and giving interviews, photo-sessions, and participating in jamghats in USA and so on. Please post the picture if you have one in which Pushkar maharaj is wearing dhakatopi or nepali dresses. |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 26-Sep-03 02:14 PM
I have seen him wear nepali dhaka-topi at various Nepali gatherings. Just to clarify something here, I am not doubting his "love for Nepal" or his true Nepaliness. I am simply doubting and questioning his actions to rip off Nepalis around the world. |
| dharma_sankat | Posted
on 26-Sep-03 02:27 PM
That's cool then.. if putting nepali flag in the bike and the flag of the country he is visiting are one of the strategies he uses, we can imagine he would wear nepali topi as well now and then. Specially i would imagine he would not miss wearing nepali topi in the Nepalese communities' conventions in USA. |
| Thanda Beer | Posted
on 26-Sep-03 02:35 PM
This Pushkar Shah is has ill motives. Read the following paragraph and think with cool thanda dimag. He is the guy set out on the world journey with some mission.. now we undertand he meets so many kinds of men and women.. but what led three women to propose him for marriages. Who is responsible for making such things happening? It is Pushkar, isn't it? It is the way how he talks to women or the type of relationships he established with them that led such marriage proposals.. How can he lead things happening in such a direction while he has wife and son in Nepal. And how stupid he is to highlight such disgusting things in interviews and newspapers as if that's the sacrifices he made to continue the journey. Is those marriage proposals look like medals to him so that he should be shouting about in order to attract people? - http://www.pushkarshah.com/listNewsPart2.asp?NewsID={6E69AF3C-B38A-11D7-8CD3-0050BA5C8634} He's also gotten three marriage proposals on his journeys. Contacts home are made by letter and his family occasionally meets in a town with a telephone to speak with him. His son is now four and will probably join the family of farmers until his father returns home. There's been no money to make a visit back home. "I told my mother and wife that I was going around the world for peace," he said. "They didn't think I was serious". "I know that one man cannot change the world," he added, "but I need to let as many people know that the world is one house and we're a family, we share the same light, the same heat, that we're not divided, that we have to live with peace and love". |
| dharma_sankat | Posted
on 26-Sep-03 03:02 PM
Yeh Thanda Beer: you are correct. He is absurd, stupid and involved in adultery. For exmple: In San Juan, he realises he has a promise to keep. He has to call his friend in Hong Kong. His I-will-wait-for-you friend. His supporter. When he left her at the Hong Kong International Airport, she gave him money. Its not for you , she had said, Its for calling me from every new place you go to. She said she loved him. She said she wanted to marry him. She said a lot of things. But when he told her to buy a cycle and come with him, she didnt say anything. She said nothing. It is something he remembers all the time. Like a poultice. |
| maahagunda | Posted
on 26-Sep-03 05:18 PM
Dear all Pushkar`s donors, You are represent 75 thousand nepali in usa and 10 thousand in canada.Maybe you should have ANA president.Who want? Lets me know.I will meet you guys in ANA convention 2004.Then what you do and what i will do.Well! one magne wear his nepali topi whereever he goes.Do you sojho nepali wear your national topi?Just proof me. |
| sadabichar | Posted
on 27-Sep-03 09:00 AM
Now I am 99% convinced that Maahagunda = Pushkar And Pushkar is indeed reading all the postings in this thread through Maahagunda. There has not been even a needle-tip of explanation from their side coming out against all the anomolies and doubts raised on this thread nor against any of the facts presented here in this thread. The reason is clear.. all those facts in this thread is not made-ups but extracted from truths available everywhere. I totally agree with Thanda Beer wrote: "This Pushkar Shah is has ill motives. Read the following paragraph and think with cool thanda dimag. He is the guy set out on the world journey with some mission.. now we undertand he meets so many kinds of men and women.. but what led three women to propose him for marriages. Who is responsible for making such things happening? It is Pushkar, isn't it? It is the way how he talks to women or the type of relationships he established with them that led such marriage proposals.. How can he lead things happening in such a direction while he has wife and son in Nepal. And how stupid he is to highlight such disgusting things in interviews and newspapers as if that's the sacrifices he made to continue the journey. Is those marriage proposals look like medals to him so that he should be shouting about in order to attract people?" |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 27-Sep-03 11:28 AM
Let us not talk about his wife or girlfriend. One simple question Puskar Copperfield should answere: Did he really ride his or hitch hiked or what? Puskar should admit that he didn't ride his bike .Everybody travels in plane and buses that is no great thing. Why he is telling lies. There is no need of ANA president to justify your bogus claim of your distances. Wheather we wear Dakka Topi or not that is none of your business because we are simple people. But Puskar Mahagunda cum copperfield, you are a celebrity now, a national figure (Thulo Manche!) and spreading lies instead of peace message is a great mistake. |
| dharma_sankat | Posted
on 28-Sep-03 10:14 PM
HappY ViJaYa DaShami to Pushkar and all of you guys as well... |
| realist | Posted
on 30-Sep-03 02:08 AM
yo topic lai ta chod nai hudai na. Gotta keep people informed. |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 30-Sep-03 10:15 AM
It would be enlightening to here from someone in China to find our if he real ate the "suntala ko bokra" or indulge himself with Chau Chau!!! |
| sankaa | Posted
on 30-Sep-03 10:39 AM
for dat you need to dig his gooo from safety tank or wherever he shitted, and take it to a labrotrary and run scientific researches , remember that scene from Austin power I ??? |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 30-Sep-03 10:46 AM
Sankaa Ji, I am sure that there will be a lot of PUSHKAR "supporters" that would treasure that event!!! :) BB |
| sankaa | Posted
on 30-Sep-03 12:31 PM
I am not one of them just to let you know. I am also not one of them cry babies who did not do enough research before helping him out. I am sure however, that there won't be lack of supporters and there will be a good long thread on sajha after the research :). aidos. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 30-Sep-03 12:35 PM
as an independent observer, i think, the burden of poof is on the pushkar's "anti-supporters"?? so should the event be treasured by the group? |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 30-Sep-03 01:19 PM
The proof has been provided... now it's the turn of the defendant's (Pushkar's) supporter to discredit the evidence... by digging deeper. Please do so if you have proofs supporting your man... BTW Sankaa j,i we are all independent observers, simply providing facts! Caio BB |
| khappare | Posted
on 30-Sep-03 03:03 PM
Lu bro haru, Aba chahi ati bhayo. Dashain break garun. Kaso? Pheri ati bhaye pachhi khati hunccha ni.Durga bhawani le sibai lai sadbuddi diun.Bir narayan chaudhari ko jasto aayu hos,Gyanendra ko jasto sir hos,Baikuntha manandhar ko jasto gati hos,Prachanda ko jasto sakti hos,Manisha koirala ko jasto paisa hos,Keshab sthapit ko jasto kaam hos,Pushkar shah ko jasto naam hos.Thulo manchhe bhaye.Buddhi palaos.Santan le Asia dekhi liyer America ,Erope,Africa sabai tira dhakun. Subha dashain 2060 |
| sankaa | Posted
on 30-Sep-03 03:43 PM
reposting again: Posted on 09-30-03 12:31 PM Reply | Notify Admin am not one of them just to let you know. I am also not one of them cry babies who did not do enough research before helping him out. you have fun. |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 01-Oct-03 02:56 PM
Happy Bijaya Dashami to all, including Pushkar Shah. We will give this a rest but will pick it up after Dasai ... Kaso? |
| lalpari | Posted
on 02-Oct-03 08:42 AM
Although I have not posted any thging to this thread I have been closly following it. I recently came to know of some "gossip". I can not collaborate this but I have heard rumor that Pushkar is actually collecting money for the Maoist revolution in Nepal! Could this be true? I surely hope not. Happy Bada Dasai to the Sajhaites around the world. May goddes durga give you all strength to fight for the truth and justice. |
| realist | Posted
on 02-Oct-03 10:35 AM
who know huh!!!!!!!!! if he can lie to get money whats anpther lie huh. |
| khappare | Posted
on 02-Oct-03 06:35 PM
What ?Is that true?Pushkar shah is collecting money for the Moaist revolution in Nepal.Ram ram ram.Happy phul ani pati. |
| realist | Posted
on 03-Oct-03 01:06 PM
Puskar ji kun desh ma haraunu bhayo. |
| khappare | Posted
on 03-Oct-03 01:22 PM
He was thinking to underground some busy city Newyork Chicago Or Dallas.But every Nepali people know about him .So he moved from USA.I hope he will return again.If he stay in USA there will long lines of nepali people for get return donation.Maybe right now he is in South America.Looking chica bonita? |
| dharma_sankat | Posted
on 03-Oct-03 02:52 PM
At least Pushkar had a plan to attend 2004 ANA conventions and other Nepalese asscoications' conventions in USA in year 2004. Recall the fact, he was there in 2001, 2002 and 2003 nepalese conventions at many US cities, which seems to be lucrative business for him. But now, with all the facts being revealed here in sajha.com he might change his plan to come back to US, however, he might go back to Hollywood, and if he does that he will not inform anyone anymore, it will be done secretly. |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 03-Oct-03 02:58 PM
Ha ha, Now I am happy that I am not Sanobai's husband. Sanobai herself has revealed the real identity of her Nepali husband Prem Pulami, a marathoner. This might be of interest to Elizabeth who tried so hard to tarnish my image just to defend Pushkar Shah. Check out the thread by Sanobai "Nepal Runner in Chicago Marathon Oct 12" where she wrote: sanobai Posted on 10-03-03 12:54 PM Reply | Notify Admin Cheer on your nepal homeboy! Prem Pulami, my husband, will be running the Chicago marathon on Oct. 12. Prem is originally from near Hille and now lives outside of Burlington,Vermont. This is Prem's second full marathon. He is is hoping to qualify for the Boston Marathon (in less than 3 hrs, 10 min.) this time around and could use all the support and cheering crowds he can get, especially from fellow Nepalese. He'll be wearing a t-shirt with "running for Nepal" on the front, so look for him! You can also send him e-mails to encourage him at astha97@aol.com.Thanks, guys. |
| khappare | Posted
on 03-Oct-03 06:55 PM
Sachchan ho ki khisi lawa.Hotti New yark ri ni maobadi mula.Pushkar se syapchi theda.Sachchan syapchi bisam Pushkar pakkan Maobadi la satasya ho chim ganthe. |
| pipaldanda | Posted
on 04-Oct-03 06:09 PM
Is this tamang language? oh Yala! |
| prem_dai | Posted
on 07-Oct-03 07:40 AM
Hope you all guys celebrated Dashain well. Does anybody know whether Pushkar is actually biking in Peru? How did his biking in Equador for more than 10 days go? Looks like he has claimed more than900 km in his mileage for the Equador biking. |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 07-Oct-03 12:08 PM
Need Pushkar facts from his CA/SA escapade!! |
| billa | Posted
on 07-Oct-03 03:09 PM
Munchhe haru ho, There was Pushkar shah s interview in Nepal television 6 october 2003.Tika ko bholipata.Watch out nepalnews.com in dishanirdesh. |
| dautari | Posted
on 07-Oct-03 05:37 PM
The programme has lost it charm in its second season. It was very good when it was a Bhushan Dahal production with Vijay Kumar Pandey as an anchor only. Once Bhushan dai crossed over to Kantipur Television, Disha Nirdesh has not been the same. |
| salakjith | Posted
on 07-Oct-03 07:14 PM
And here is the link: http://www.nepalnews.com.np/dishanirdesh/ |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 07-Oct-03 10:17 PM
I am sure this interview is a re-broadcast. Mahaagunda once mentioned here that Pushkar have interview to NTV saying that pushkar keeps record of each and every dollar he receives as donations and the doners' names. So this is it. Looks like Even Bijay Kumar is reading this thread and decided to re-run the interview once again. Pushkar at present is touring in Peru, isn't it? I am amazed how Bijya Kumar tightly cross-questioned him which clearly showed that interviewer himslef suspects lot of things Pushkar claims through his diaries. Whoever watch this interview will surely convince all the hanky panky things Pushkar might have done in his journey once he reads allth epostings here in sajha. In this interview Pushkar claimed 82,000 km, which is the same number he claimed when he returned from USA to Nepal in Oct 2002. |
| sadabichar | Posted
on 13-Oct-03 09:48 AM
The interview on Dishanirdesh indeed has clarified lot of doubts on Pushkar Shah's Journey. 1. Many people here argued that let Pushkar shah do whatever he is doing, that's his lifestyle. But the interview clearly tells us that Pushkar Shah is not doing this tour as his hobby but to carry the flag of Nepal on his bike around the world in order to spread the message of peace. That's exactly what I am arguing about... this tour is about spreading peace message while carrying Nepali flag around, and the interview cearly showed that's not what Pushkar is doing, but something else. 2. About money, he says US$55,000 has already been spent.. No one will believe that part of the story. And remember he cleverly stressed he has not a penny left for further journey. This thread has elaborately discussed he has lots of money around US banks in different accounts with different people. 3. Bijay Kumar clearly asked for the prrof that Pushkar travelled on bike from one city to another. Pushkar got so scared to this question... and he could not give any reasonable explanationt o defend his biking. Ultimately as a last resort, he told Bijay Kumar, "please do not try to suspect on me". 4. It is Pushkar who raised the marraige proposals in the interview, not Bijay Kumar. Puhskar Shah revealed his dark side of mind saying that he sometimes thought that the way he was getting marriage proposals he should have married in each country he visitis and set the record in Guinness book of world records (jokingly). But that sort of silly talking in such a interview canot be taken lightly, but it is an indication of his low level thinkings. 5. After listening mnay things from Pushkar, Bijay Kumar commented "You have become Batho (clever) after visiting 53 countries". This comment came after Pushkar Shah siad he has no more money left. 6. Pushkar Shah used his famous sentences again in the interview... such as "I need money, but I don't love money". 7. Most importantly, as in this thread, Bijay Kumar also asked how exactly he travelled on land and sea. Yet again, Pushkar said he only use ship or plane when he has to cross the sea but on land he always uses bike. This is yet again the lie. This thread as deeply analyzed different legs of his journey around the world and proved that he cheated many mnay places where he took rides without having to ride the bike from one city to another, and yet he added all those mileage to his log book. Now the reality. This interview by Bijay Kumar was not taken in October 2003, although it was telecast on October 6, 2003. This interview was recorded long time ago, probably just before Pushkar left Nepal in July 2003 to Florida. And from Floida he went to Mexico. But remember Maahaagunda once mentioned in this thread that Pushkar keeps record of every person who donated money (even $1) in his dairy. So how come Mahaagunda knows such thing before the interview was telecast. I am sure Mahaagunda cannot be Bijay Kumar or his associates. So, Mahaagunda must be Pushkar or his associate invloved in the scam of making money. |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 07:45 AM
QED! He is at the lease not sincere!! |
| golkhandi | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 06:17 PM
Tesko Interview ta pohor nai dekhayeko thiyo ta. Pheri dekhai topalechha Bijayle kaam napayera.Teslai golkhandi lana napugeko. |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 09:27 AM
After watching the interview of Pushkar Shah with Bijay Kumar and the way Pushkar is campaigning in his website http://www.pushkarshah.com/ at the present moment, I can clearly see what he is up to. Yet again he has come up with a plan to fool all the people around the world. In the interview he clearly said he will be travelling for more than 7 years. And as I am following how his mileage riding high at the rate of 100 km/day, and how he is planning to stay within peru for more than a month, it has become quite clear to me that his plan is something like this. He has to now visit nearly 100 countries. So he is planning to spend at least one month in each country. Then he will claim 100 km for every single day, whether he will be biking or vacationing on free food and lodge. This plan will exactly fulfills his target and come clean to everyone. See how it works: 30 days in each countries means 3000 days in 100 countries. And those 3000 days is equal to 8.2 years. Claiming 100 km each day means, for all 3000 days it will work out to be 300,000 kms. And so far he claims controversial 90,500 km which together with this future 300,000 kms makes his target of 390,000 kms. What a Grand Design!!! |
| seuti | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 12:45 PM
Pusker Shah jee,if you are reading this Thread please write a truth about your journey in New zealand. I gone through your site and upset by your story.I know you very well, When you were in NewZealand. I have a full detail of your journey and your stay while you were in NewZealand.How your bike was stolen and you were in TV and News paper.How many times did you ride a bike from weillington- to Auckland-via Hamilton.On which house you stay in NewZealnd? otherwiseI have to write everything in this thread. |
| Prem_dai | Posted
on 18-Oct-03 02:35 PM
Seuti jee: Let's hear what you know about Pushkar's visit in NZ. In his webpage, Pushkar writes that the Nepali association there collected money for him.. but at the last minute the money was not given to him and he suspects that the association used the money collected in his name for the inknown purposes of the association itself. Basically Pushkar whined a lot about his visit in NZ as per his website. We are eager to know the facts. |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 20-Oct-03 08:24 AM
Yes Seuti ji we are eagerly waiting for your account of what happened in NZ. Because more and more I am alarmed that Pushkar is still deceiving other hard working Nepalis around the world. On a side note, his new motto should be ''I Deceive, therefore I am ! " |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 20-Oct-03 08:51 AM
The question is, "famous" or ""infamous"? Often infamous people find it hard to see the differences between these two. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 20-Oct-03 03:05 PM
ahh haaaa 7 more postings and this thread will rest.. sweet... oppss 6 more now ;) |
| golkhandi | Posted
on 20-Oct-03 04:08 PM
Launa Seuti baje, New zealand ko kahani bataunu paryo.Hamra Puskar ji le ke ke gare tenha Sabistar khulasta parnusta.Puskar ji ko saikal sanchchai harayeko ho haina?Edmund hillary lai bheteko ho haina?New zealand ma Puskar ji le kati paisa muthyaunu bhayo?Kati burkyaunu bhayo,kati khalti ma khadnu bhayo? |
| seuti | Posted
on 20-Oct-03 05:09 PM
Golkhade Baje, I am still waiting for the response of Pusker ji, I also sent email to him.He really met with Sir Admond Hilary and got $1000 from him.I will give all detail about his visit in NZ. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 21-Oct-03 08:42 AM
Who want to hit 300rd post in this thread to win a free one-way air ticket to heaven?...no me hai...ehehe |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 21-Oct-03 03:12 PM
Well, for sure the postings will reach the milestone of 300 postings, but it doesn't mean the thread will die. Rather the thread should re-born as "Pushakr Shah and $$$$ - PART II" and it should continue forever. It's amazing how this thread got so popular and it has been viewed for the record number of 7100+ times. After watching Pushkar Shah's Interview on Dishanirdesh, I could not stop myself from thanking the dishanirdesh group for producing such a nice program. So, I communicated with dishanirdesh group to thank them for their absolutely superb works. Here is the replay I got from Vijay Kumar of Dishanirdesh. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Commentus" To: darshankaka@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Feedback Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:04:57 +0545 Namaste! On behalf of the Disha Nirdesh team, I would like to convey my sincere thanx to you for watching our show and writing to us with your valued comments and suggestions. Warm regards, Vijay Kumar ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:14 AM Subject: Feedback > Comments : The interview with Pushkar Shah by Bijay Kumar in > Dishanirdesh is excellent. Allthe doubts raised by the interviewer > have been elaborately discussed and debated in the thread > "Pushkar Shah and $$$$" on website http://www.sajha.com/ 's > Kurakani Section. Tons of analysis and proofs have been > presented in this thread which sheds light on the dark side > of Pushkar's self-proclaimed World tour on bike. > I urge Bijay Kumar to have a look on this website's thread > where he might find very interesting facts on the tour of Pushkar Shah. > SubmittedBy : Darshan Kaka > Email : darshankaka@yahoo.com |
| golkhandi | Posted
on 21-Oct-03 04:10 PM
Yo thread ma jasle dherai post gareko chha tesailai sworga ko one way ticket pathaune.Kaso bhunte ? |
| darshankaka | Posted
on 21-Oct-03 04:32 PM
I am going to create another thread as "Pushkar Shah and $$$$ Part II" since this being the 300th posting. Please visit and post at the next thread at - http://sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=12779 Thank you. |