Posted by: kundale February 12, 2015
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Kiddo,
I am not saying that law enforcement does not have the right to defend themselves in dangerous situations. They certainly do. And they serve and operate under very stressful conditions and often times than not go above and beyond the call of duty. I do appreciate and admire men and women in uniform. One for the troops!
Now,
All I am saying - and reading the article above - I do not see the law enforcement officers having a reason to pat this guy down let alone arrest him with extreme prejudice and break his back.
Lets try and look at the facts - The guy was walking down a street, maybe peering into open garages - someone thought this suspicious and reported this. Police arrive, there is a communication barrier.
Now, why does the officer now want to pat the guy down? Because he put his hand in his pocket? Because he made a sudden movement? He threatened the officer in any way? What is the probable cause here?
The officer tries to pat grandpa and he recoils - maybe is just a reflex action, maybe he is afraid - remember communication barrier?
Ok, now assume that grandpa has a huge dick and a hard-on and the officer thinks its a gun and is in "fear for his life". I assume the officer is bigger than grandpa (57 year old Indian FOB), is there a need to slam him so hard to the ground such that the guy gets a broken back? Does that not seem as excessive force? And unjustified?
In my opinion the 14th amendment is designed for such a scenario, the law enforcement officer has to demonstrate reasonable probable cause to search, detain or arrest anyone - including grandpas.
The question is, what will happen now - I think the officer will be back at his job after a reasonable amount of time, grandpa and family will get money from their lawsuit which will come in handy to pay medical bills and lawyer fees. And grandpa will go back to India with a very negative feeling of US police.
What should be done to change this? Call out the police when they act in this manner. Civil rights did not just happen in a vacuum. Nor did American revolution happen in a vacuum. It's not only our right but duty to speak truth to power and call things out as it is.
I agree to a certain point to your argument that the son should have warned the father about interaction with the police - but then he likely warned about interaction with potential hoodlums and not police.
This thing has hit home so close to me is because that could easily have been my father than some random Indian dude. My father would get bored sitting at home while we were at work and would go for a walk around town. I did not warn him about the police, never thought that I would have to.
And we should acknowledge that an injustice has occurred here and maybe the blame of the incident lies more on the law enforcement side than a guy not knowing English.
I am not saying that law enforcement does not have the right to defend themselves in dangerous situations. They certainly do. And they serve and operate under very stressful conditions and often times than not go above and beyond the call of duty. I do appreciate and admire men and women in uniform. One for the troops!
Now,
All I am saying - and reading the article above - I do not see the law enforcement officers having a reason to pat this guy down let alone arrest him with extreme prejudice and break his back.
Lets try and look at the facts - The guy was walking down a street, maybe peering into open garages - someone thought this suspicious and reported this. Police arrive, there is a communication barrier.
Now, why does the officer now want to pat the guy down? Because he put his hand in his pocket? Because he made a sudden movement? He threatened the officer in any way? What is the probable cause here?
The officer tries to pat grandpa and he recoils - maybe is just a reflex action, maybe he is afraid - remember communication barrier?
Ok, now assume that grandpa has a huge dick and a hard-on and the officer thinks its a gun and is in "fear for his life". I assume the officer is bigger than grandpa (57 year old Indian FOB), is there a need to slam him so hard to the ground such that the guy gets a broken back? Does that not seem as excessive force? And unjustified?
In my opinion the 14th amendment is designed for such a scenario, the law enforcement officer has to demonstrate reasonable probable cause to search, detain or arrest anyone - including grandpas.
The question is, what will happen now - I think the officer will be back at his job after a reasonable amount of time, grandpa and family will get money from their lawsuit which will come in handy to pay medical bills and lawyer fees. And grandpa will go back to India with a very negative feeling of US police.
What should be done to change this? Call out the police when they act in this manner. Civil rights did not just happen in a vacuum. Nor did American revolution happen in a vacuum. It's not only our right but duty to speak truth to power and call things out as it is.
I agree to a certain point to your argument that the son should have warned the father about interaction with the police - but then he likely warned about interaction with potential hoodlums and not police.
This thing has hit home so close to me is because that could easily have been my father than some random Indian dude. My father would get bored sitting at home while we were at work and would go for a walk around town. I did not warn him about the police, never thought that I would have to.
And we should acknowledge that an injustice has occurred here and maybe the blame of the incident lies more on the law enforcement side than a guy not knowing English.