I've added few more reasons to not give nepali citizenship based on discussions with _____. NEW reasons are given in bold.

• Only tax paying Nepali are allowed to raise their voice in Nepal (you don’t have to pay more than sachib’s tax but you can’t be a poor citizen who don’t pay any tax).
• We will have to wait for India to develop. Until then, sorry Nepalese ladies, you can’t have your rights. No citizenship for your kids.
• Those asking for the rights are doing for gaining POPULARITY.
• Asking to provide citizenship to kids based on their NEPALI mother is NOTHING, but a FASHION for nepalese living in western countries.
• Those women are dumb.
• Western agenda
• Threat to Nationality
• Risk to Nepali Economy
• Women like to cheat
• Women are irresponsible
• People from India will flood into Nepal and will evade Nepal
• Demographic dynamics will change.
• People will abuse the law to get citizenship ONLY through WOMEN (NEVER through men).

I never said that we should not give women their right, what I am saying is because of our poor economy, because of our open border, there is possibility of misuse of that provision by easy life seeking people from across the border so in order to minimise (100% avoidance is not possible) such possibility wanted to put some restriction so that it will be difficult for those profit seeking people to misuse our system.

-       I thought I already agreed on requiring additional evidences. But you twisted somewhere to make it look like we’re asking for citizenship based on ‘verbal statement’. How did “VERBAL” come into discussion?

So, economy wise Nepal should be worried if there are 10,000 profit seeking people from the other side of the border.

 And I am sure if we put no restriction there will be more than 10,000 ppl will be legally able to take nepali citizenship which will badly affect our economy.

Actually Nepal has no economy at all, we are run by poor Nepali people working  in middle east and sending money back home. You and me actually don’t help Nepal’s economy.  Those poor Nepalis working hard and sending dollars to Nepal  rupiyah and dollar exchange rate is approx 100, If some how middle eastern countries stop recruiting Neplese, Nepal will run out of dollar in a year and exchange rate will easily be 200 rs per dollar. In such case those 10,000 will cost us a lot.

     - For this 10,000 people, you want to deny half of women in Nepal from their rights. How much of Nepalese economy is affected by giving 2-3 million citizenship to Indians?

-       Do you know the flow of remittance between India and Nepal?

-       How can you assume that I don’t help Nepal’s economy? What has this to do with current discussion?

If US is careful about economic immigrant then why should not we.

जुन गोरु को सिङ छैन उस्को नाम तिखे bhanya jasti bhayena ?

Second, How many Tibetian refugees in Nepal? Approximately 20,000 or even less, China world’s largest economy, largest population is always careful that those people and always ask Nepal to check on them.

Nepals population and economy in comparison to China is peanut, and still we should close our eyes about possible economic downfall? How could that be logical?

Third

-       I thought I already addressed your concern. Why’re you going around? We’re talking about kids who has NEPALI MOTHER and wants to stay their whole life in Nepal. So they want to be citizens who will CONTRIBUTE to economy, not otherwise.

But few misplaced decision will easily destroy a country or a economy.

-       Right, sky will fall. What number are we talking here? Did nepali economy collapse when 2-3 million Indians became nepali citizen?

But reality is different MAJORITY of those like to take Nepali citizenship.

-       Can you guess the number of Indians interested to come to Nepal? First, they’ll have to get married with Nepali ladies and then they’ll have to live for >10 years in Nepal. If they do that, there should not be a problem to give them the citizenship.

Metta I don’t know where you live, but if you live in US, Europe or some other rich country you don’t have right to create a situation where contribution from those people will misused to the welfare of people who has right in different country. अर्का को दुख्ह को कमाइ मा आफ्नो अधिकार खोज्ने होइन आफ्नो अधिकार को लागि आँफैले contribute गर्न पर्छ

-       I beg you now not to deny my rights. LOL. How much can you exaggerate?

-       Have you seen a pie chart of Nepali remittance by countries?

I DON’T WANT some easy life seeking people get Nepali citizenship and enjoy the benefits generated by tax paid by me and other hard working fellow Nepalese.

-       LOL.

How much do you contribute to Nepali budget? Do you pay tax from the money you earn? If not why you are so interested to tell how Nepal should increase mouths instead of increasing working hands. Till date I have paid a lot of tax, much more than a “sachib” of Nepal woild have paid. And I want my tax money to be used for eligible Nepalis only.

These days it has become so fashionable among politician and ppl living in western countries to adopt a popular slogan to gain popularity but they close eyes how the population will be supported economically. Social security to ppl who didn’t had job in their life time, Free school, free health service, free birthing centers cost money you know ? (Although 50% of these will be siphoned by corrupt politicians.)

In India there are little more than 20 million Bangladeshi and Indians always hate those, don’t want them and always complain that those Bangladeshi taking away opportunity from Indians. Why should not Nepali worried about easy life seeking migrants the from other side of the border.

-       What has this got to do with current discussion again? Are you going to give weights based on person’s income and paid tax? What kind of logic is this?

-       How can you assume that person want to be popular by discussing here?

Here I would look the situation in different way. The question is why someone wants to live in Nepal instead of India where he has full right?

-       Why? You answer. I am talking about providing citizenship to those kids living their most of life in Nepal.

If you are not paying tax to Nepal, you don’t have right to increase the burden of other Nepal tax payers.

-       What burden are you talking about?

-       If I say I pay tax, will you AGREE to give women their rights?

It has become a fashion in sajha or in other nepali websites for  ex Nepalis to gain virtual popularity by posting, accepting popular slogan. I would like to request those people stay away from interfering nepals policy. Once you gave up Nepali citizenship you already lost that right.  Positive contributions are always welcome off course.

-       You’re the master on exaggerating, aren’t you?

-       How and who will differentiate between positive and negative contributions?

Once women will start to have property in their name they will also think twice to say someone else is her son/daughter because he/she can legally ask for property from mother too. 

-       Here you go again with your DISTRUST on women.

-       Why do you think that these WOMEN are asking to provide citizenship for someone else’s son?

Here I don’t have to say any thing you compare Nirmala adhikari who had such a tragic time in her life and those women who failed to prepare proper documents for their kids.

-       You showed concern for Nirmala Adhikari’s suffering. I think it has to do with our current law and society’s thinking. Whenever women or minorities protest against discrimination, oppressive society thinks it is threat to religion/culture/economy/nationality and it is western propaganda/agenda.

Tell me which law prevents me to say dumb to dumb people? Western society teaches you to tell truth. I am not saying dumb to all women am I?  I posted this thread because I was impressed by courage Nirmala adhikari and her husband showed. You failed to notice that. What do you think? all women are intelligent or what. I will always say dumb to dumb people be they be a man or women. Intelligent to intelligent people, I don’t discriminate based on gender.

And, I am sorry, who are you to take away my right to say dumb to dumb people.

-       I don’t want to deny anyone of their rights.

-       I got the impression that you’re calling dumb to those women who don’t have citizenship for their kids. I don’t think they’re dumb. Our SOCIETY and EXISTING LAWS want to make them look like dumb.