Do you really know what I am saying? Do you really know the issue here? I am not saying we don’t need to secure nepali economy from men. You just pick up one line and pretest you better read entire reply.

-       You’ve cited so many problems that comes with giving women their rights as if sky will fall after that. I am not convinced that there will be any significant threat to Nepal’s national economy or security. Nepal has already got enough of that.

The condition applies to women because women go to India after marrying Indian dude, their kids have right to have Indian citizenship. Why someone wants to take citizenship of Nepal instead of India ? And this situation does not happen when a nepali guys marries Indian gal, she come s to Nepal , Nepali guys doesn’t go to India. Because the situation is like this that’s why it will effect Nepali economy.

-       You’re contradicting here. Are you saying that children born of nepali girl marrying with indian guy will be more interested to get Indian citizenship than nepali citizenship? Then why’re you so worried? I don’t think India allows dual citizenship either. So that kid either have a choice to become nepali or indian citizen.

-       Another point is: I’ve already cleared your concern here. Nepal don’t need to give birth certificate to children of mother who goes to india and live there entire life. We’re talking about children who chose to make Nepal as their country. For that, certificates from school, marriage certificate in Nepal, birth certificate in Nepal, evidence of living in Nepal from state agencies can be added. Does that address your concern? If no, please tell me what other concerns you have.

And don’t say I am against women right, if you are able to think rational I have not opposed the Indian women right when she marries a Nepali guy. If I support Indian women kids  getting Nepali citinzen  when she marries nepali guy , I am just looking for reciprocal, when Nepal women marry  Indian guy their kids have right to be Indian citizen. Now what do you think we should give them Nepali citizen too> dual citizen? just because he /she was bor from Nepali women. I am not in popularity competition in sajha. I don’t want to support things which has big hole in it, not as a fashion, I will not support blindly just because it is a trend.

-       If the children of nepali girl or indian guy chose to stay in Nepal and has been living in Nepal for certain number of years, these children should get nepali citizenship. Period.

Who is ultra nationalistic here me or you ?  Just because someone says he/she is my son/daughter we have to believe and give citizenship without any prove?  Whereas Indian women marrying Nepali guy has to renounce her Indian citizenship to get Nepali citizenship. They need to produce paper of their marriage, marriage registration, birth registration. But when women is Nepali I have to accept whatever she says if right just because she is Nepal?

-       Who has said about providing citizenship without PROVE? We already talked about what evidences can be added as requirement if children of nepali women and foreign men chose to seek Nepali citizenship.

When Indian women married to Nepal guy need to produce citizenship Nepali women should also do that. When Indian women married to Nepali guy need to produce marriage certificate Nepali women also requires meet such regulation. Just because she is Nepali she can not avoid by laws. Doing that will be discrimination between Indain women married to Nepali men and Nepali women. You sound ultra nationalistic not me. 

-       LOL on your accusation. I’m talking about RIGHTS, you’re talking about NATIONALISM. Go figure, who’s who. Did I accuse you of becoming ultra-nationalistic? I don’t remember.

I think you are blinded by your own logic you failed to see my support for Nepali citizenship for kids born from Indian women married to Nepali men. Are Indian women are not women only Nepali women are women? Here you are seeing only one side of the coin, your side please try to see  the other side of the coin too.

-      Parent’s information have to be filled. But Nepal gives MAIN importance to FATHER, not MOTHER. It doesn’t care who the mother is or where it come from as long as father is from Nepal. Are you still saying that women in Nepal are treated equally?

Lol---Such a irrelevant logic, which western world you are talking about. The western world you are talking about does not exists any more. May be you are dreaming. I AM TALKING ABOUT THAT WESTERN WORLD Which DO NOT ACCEPT VERBAL evidence when it comes to birth and death. In many European schools you cannot admits your child unless you have vaccination card or a written letter from doctor saying that the child was given all necessary vaccination. Verbal is not enough. You gave the example of western world which existed may be 500 years ago. ….

-       Am I and the supporters of the change asking for VERBAL evidence? I’ve said again and again, children be required to provide PROOF of living in NEPAL and any other evidences.

-       When has non-requirement of EVIDENCE entered into this discussion?

-       You talked about RESPONSIBILITY. So I wonder people at that time of "sati Pratha' must be TEACHING women responsibility to die along with their husbands because that’s what was required for the wife to do at those periods. That's what was meant to be called responsible and abiding by law then.

It applies both to men and women I never said that it applies only women did I. I was telling a clever woman will understand that her partner is not willing to fulfill his duty so she will not continue the partnership and save herself from trouble. I said there are good people and there are bad people if you are able to recognise bad people earlier that will be good. Empowering women will help her to understand this and you opposite this. Looks like you don’t know what is good and what is bad. May be you do not qualify to talk about rights and equality.

-       No, you’re blaming ONLY women and NOT men.

-       You’re asking for impossible. How can women foresee whether her husband is going to stick with her forever? If husband at any time of her life disappear, her child becomes STATELESS according to current law of Nepal.

What are you saying? Did I said they don’t have right to marry whomever they want? I said when they practice their right to marry whomever you want they must also be ready to bear the responsibility. Rights come with responsibility your decision.

-       Exactly. That was one of the responsibilities during ‘Sati Pratha’. Women were asked to be responsible by getting burned alive with their dead husband to BEAR the responsibility that comes with marriage to women then. Now, at this age, we're still teaching them to be responsible with biased and discriminatory laws. But, we’re asking for CHANGE now, can we change this BIASED law?

If I get married with some gal and in due course of time she ran away with another man who is responsible for choosing wrong women, me isn’t it? In western world people are responsible for their action whether it is men or women. If you choose wrong partner for your life, it is you who is responsible no one else. That is why we need to make women wise enough to choose right partner so that she won’t face any problem in future.

-       Here you go again on your crusade to make women WISE. Do you seriously think women are dumb till now and YOUR WAY to make them WISE is by denying their rights?

Husband is responsible BY law, it is not optional for him, I think I said it loud and clear. Yes

-       Nope. Only husbands are IMPORTANT according to NEPALI LAW. Women are not considered important, that's why women's information are not required in many documents. I say again, we're asking for CHANGE.

One way is to giving them enough education so that they know what to do after marriage what are the papers required etc. You can not control the person who ran away can you?

Have you herd about prevention is better than cure.I am looking for prevention rather than proposing cure which has loophole.

-       Exactly, we cannot control the person who ran away. What if someone runs away.

-       What if there’re tons of people with illnesses? Are you still going to insist about Prevention or CURING? We’re talking about people with problems here, and we need the SOLUTION for these people. Prevention is not going to cure them.

Lol, Just because someone is women I should not blame?? Is it against the law?? I want to control women re? I don’t want to control anyone I want people controlled by the system, law. No one should above the law Western law teaches you to be responsible and abide by the law if the law is democratic you should abide by it. One can not say whatever I say is right everything else is wrong.

-       You can blame whoever you want. We’re living in free country, not in NEPAL, where women don’t have equal rights.

-       I’m asking for change in such discriminatory laws.

MOST importantly, you have already agreed to put some restriction. That is what all wanted.  Rest is just side talk.

-       No one is asking to give citizenship to any kid WITHOUT evidence.