Posted by: cardinal December 18, 2014
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Yakku,
One thing I agree with you is on the respect of law and the opportunity it gives to who needs and works hard for it. I have benefitted tremendously from the opportunity here and want others who work hard to have those as well.
But then, I still find reasons for strong disagreement with your other claims/arguments:
First, you are wrong to assume that just because people you know have faked it, all asylees are fake. You ask me to prove you wrong, but I don’t need to. Have you heard of the concept of ‘innocent until proven guilty’? That is the legal premise US operates on. If you think that ALL these people are fake then the onus is on you to prove that they are fake.
Also, if you know that they are really fake, and you are so moral about it, isn’t it then your duty to report it to authorities? What is stopping you? Or would you rather prefer to make life difficult for all asyless because it is simply more convenient for you to lump all asylees together, label them all ‘fake’ and support policies that restricts them all? Have you ever heard of the term ‘summary judgement’?
Second, you mention that the fakers took the opportunity from the people who really needed it. I don’t think US has a ‘cap’ on the number of asylum it gives out, and I hear of no one who were denied asylum due to other people faking it. So your zero-sum analysis on asylum does not seem to be true.
Third, and back to the Nepal govt’s policy: Nepal govt did not deny granting passport renewal to asylees because they were ‘fake’. Nepal govt decided unilaterally and without any legal basis and without any consultation with stakeholders and general public to not grant passport renewal to ALL asylees. So the debate on whether the asylees are real or fake is simply a moot point. The real issue is that Nepal govt has made a decision to shirk its duty towards its citizens especially when they are in foreign land and lack adequate legal representation and that to me is the primary reason why I oppose this policy. The reason I ask for unity is because we need to demand accountability from the Nepal govt to Nepalese citizens and to the diaspora and we can only do so effectively if we are united.
One thing I agree with you is on the respect of law and the opportunity it gives to who needs and works hard for it. I have benefitted tremendously from the opportunity here and want others who work hard to have those as well.
But then, I still find reasons for strong disagreement with your other claims/arguments:
First, you are wrong to assume that just because people you know have faked it, all asylees are fake. You ask me to prove you wrong, but I don’t need to. Have you heard of the concept of ‘innocent until proven guilty’? That is the legal premise US operates on. If you think that ALL these people are fake then the onus is on you to prove that they are fake.
Also, if you know that they are really fake, and you are so moral about it, isn’t it then your duty to report it to authorities? What is stopping you? Or would you rather prefer to make life difficult for all asyless because it is simply more convenient for you to lump all asylees together, label them all ‘fake’ and support policies that restricts them all? Have you ever heard of the term ‘summary judgement’?
Second, you mention that the fakers took the opportunity from the people who really needed it. I don’t think US has a ‘cap’ on the number of asylum it gives out, and I hear of no one who were denied asylum due to other people faking it. So your zero-sum analysis on asylum does not seem to be true.
Third, and back to the Nepal govt’s policy: Nepal govt did not deny granting passport renewal to asylees because they were ‘fake’. Nepal govt decided unilaterally and without any legal basis and without any consultation with stakeholders and general public to not grant passport renewal to ALL asylees. So the debate on whether the asylees are real or fake is simply a moot point. The real issue is that Nepal govt has made a decision to shirk its duty towards its citizens especially when they are in foreign land and lack adequate legal representation and that to me is the primary reason why I oppose this policy. The reason I ask for unity is because we need to demand accountability from the Nepal govt to Nepalese citizens and to the diaspora and we can only do so effectively if we are united.