@ Kiddo...... If I declare that there is no creation at all. What would you understand? You might be wondering what the heck is all this that I am seeing? Isn't this creation before us? So, I tried to bring the idea of cause and effect relationship through the example of gold and necklace made of gold to make you understand that the term creation is merely a sound with no corresponding reality at all. Do you remember the question I asked you: What do you touch when you touch the necklace made up of gold? You kept clinging over necklace which is not real. The only reality on that particular necklace is GOLD. Gold can assume any shape. The moment gold assumes different shapes, different form arises and you start giving different names for practical purposes. The necklace, the bracelets, all the rest jewelries are gold itself. Name arise only on account of form. It's like a dream. It is there this moment, it is not there the other moment. Which one is real and which one is unreal? So, when you truly understand the cause and effect relationship, you will start discriminating unreal from real. There is no such thing as necklace. It is just a name given for the form that the gold has assumed. The mere appearance of something momentarily doesn't makes it real. In term of pure spirituality, REAL means eternal. So, when you touch all this creation, do you touch creation or do you touch something else? How can you touch that which is untouchable? How can you hear that which cannot be heard? How can you understand that which is not understandable? There is a way and Advaita Vedanta teaches this technique. A speaker must understand who are his listeners! Therefore, I brought the idea of cause and effect relationship to help understand that effects are, in fact, cause in disguise. All effects are unreal because they appear and disappear. It is like a dream. When you sleep, you start seeing dream. What happens in dream. You can literally see a movie with clear picture and sound in your dream. What is that picture and sound? Who is watching that picture when your physical eyes are shot down? Who is hearing that sound when your physical ears are shot down? It is called inner vision. It is mind itself. Now, what are the objects we see in dreams. It is also mind. Who is seeing the dream. It is mind itself. The medium where dream takes place is mind also, the object that appears in dream is also mind, the experiences of vision, touch, and sound is also mind itself. If, all this is mind itself, why do we bother to call it this and that? If your body has to exist independent of space, your body must remove space and exist for itself. But, the moment your body removes space, where should it exist? In another space called hyper space? No, your body has to again remove this hyper space in order to exist independent. So, this will lead you nowhere. This is linear way of thinking. It is ad infinitum. Therefore, we need a different technique to find our solution. Your mind loves objects and it tries to externalize and internalize things on the basis of perception. When your mind is given an idea which is beyond objects it crumbles down because mind has no idea what it means by no space and no time. The unified field ( in your words: god or creator) is not an object that mind can entertain. When mind abandons all the qualities of finite then it automatically becomes infinite. This is where you understand who you truly are and who the so called creator is. The field is unknowable because there is no such thing as the known and the knower. For example: a magnet is a magnet. When you polarize, it starts creating a negative and positive pole. But the magnet is a magnet as a whole. Mind is such a polarizing unit. It always creates a false sense that there is something external and internal. Creation simply doesn't exist because there is no material in the first place to make all these things. When mind assumes sattvic states of mind, it starts understanding that there is no materiality at all. The water which you are seeing in ocean is merely a vibration. This whole universe is a wave which appears as concrete. This is all spiritual; there is no objectivity here. From this spiritual reality arises the magic product which we call the Universe. Universe is merely a sound with no corresponding reality at all. The only background that supports this so called Universe is Spiritual energy. So, since there is no creation at all, there is no creator as well ! Reality IS as it IS. There is no beginning here, and there is no end as well. It is what it is. Om Shanti.