I can see that this discussion is leading to nowhere... rather than showing some personal pride why not you people stick to the theme... I do agree Mahakal in one point when he said that not all the subject but we can`t compete in science and technology field.... Beside look at this guy, he is so confident with himself. I know he can do lots of difference to Nepal. A guy like this can do lots of difference, whole lots of difference. I can see energy in this guy. and yeah for being deshbhakta or not being deshbhakta does it matters.... how many of us do the things for country. Its far better if we just able to develop oneself... ourself... then it will gradually transform into the country too. And yeah as far as education goes... there is one side which the people have not dicussed yet... that is conceiving and perceiving... and I doubt all the nepalese there in US are not brilliant and neither people back in Nepal are stupid. I have this personal experience.. my friends who were dumb in thier studies ....suddenly start emailing me as they have become the intellecutal in a month or two.. As far as my opinion goes....seeing, hearing,listening and studying is not only parameter that make you wise you need to breakit down, analyse it, cook it , samash down again into fragments and then building ...these all process that goes inside the mind stands for being wise. Have you people read the novel of parijat.... I once mentioned it... and yeah there is english translated version from p. devkota . the name of novel is called Blue Memosa. Read it and prove me which standard those these literatures stands for, May be you can`t find it in american libarary. but I believe this will beat thousands of books there in it. And yeah why always our hot debate leads to insulting eachother... after doing that... do you still think that you people are intelligent. how can you be intelligent who doesn`t even know civillized way of communication