Posted by: freedom2012 February 24, 2013
You don't need to fear God
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@rethink,

you sound friendlier now hehe, just a post back you were calling me a fanatic and a lunatic.
I find that very strange indeed. :). Please explain yourself and then we will move ahead.
And do read my posts thoroughly, which clearly you did not, otherwise you would not have
called it a gut feeling. I am 100% sure that there is a God.


@ALternate,

due respect to all Atheists. There is no need to get personal in the search for truth.


Morality
 
Atheism provides no core values to motivate people to pursue moral values like compassion,forgiveness,
egalitarianism, self sacrifice. Humans need motivation and religion provides plenty of that.

If this was a moral world based on objectivity, there would not be a situation where you would question
whether a boy stealing medicine/parents in senior care are moral or not. In a thousand years, will we be
questioning whether pedophilia is right or wrong or whether getting pregnant at 9 years old is right
or wrong. This is where we went wrong, we made morality a matter of opinion rather than objective.


Existence

For 6,999,999000 people in this world, you do not exist. So the question of them coming to you to verify
your existence does not arise as you do not exist for them. The other option is for you to go to each
one to tell them that you exist. Taking an average lifespan of 70 yrs, if you somehow manage to go to
each person EVERY SECOND to tell them that you exist the moment you are born, you only get to 2.2 billion
people. Of course people die and get born everyday so by the time you get to your final verification for
your existence, the people living to verify your existence would be much less. So we cannot account for
our own existence in this world.

In conclusion, there are no set parameters for existence to be valid. You were existing just fine before
you chatted with me. You do not need me to verify your existence. God does not need us to verify his
existence. And there are no set parameters for existence to be valid. If you say that something must be
seen and experienced to exist, then you are technically saying that you do not exist, using the same
parameters.

 

Consciousness

There is no evidence that something can arise from nothing. ZERO. There is no evidence that unconsciousness
can give birth to consciousness. ZERO. In fact, it is even impossible for consciousness to create
consciousness from nothing, nor with raw materials. (Eg humans making a robot)

The only logical conclusion thus is that a higher level of consciousness created life. Yes time was created,
so was Science. God created life. If there was time then why would it need to be created?. Didnt Science prove
creation of time is possible?. That fits perfectly with attributing creation to God. Time makes us mortal.
Without time, God is immortal. That is the whole point of the Theist perspective. No time=no science,no physics.

So how can you use Science experiments to verify god when he lives in a dimension where there is no time?.
Non science methods should be used as it appeals for same. faith, praying, meditating. This is exactly why
Science talks about Nothingness as Science cannot go into a territory where there is no time(pre big bang).  
That is why they say infinite regress questions are the answer for life because there is no science to account
for there (no time). Thus, using Science, you will never go pre big bang.

   
After Life (This might sound a bit funny!)

I believe in after life. I once thought about this question. Does life end when i die?. So it was Yes for me,
and No for the people who live on. But then i thought how can there be a Yes and No answer to that question
and still be correct?. So i came to a conclusion. Yes life does go on after i die. But how can i know that?,
I am dead!. No proof that life goes on as Science wants proof. The only logical thing would thus be that one
still lives and life goes on. Otherwise life does not go on and should end with you. 
 

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