Posted by: alternate February 13, 2013
You don't need to fear God
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Freedom,

Agnostic: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god. (Definition from Merriam-Webster dictionary)

Agnostic Theism : Agnostic theism is the philosophical view that encompasses both theism and agnosticism. An agnostic theist believes in the existence of at least one deity, but regards the truth or falsehood of this proposition as unknown or inherently unknowable. (Definition from Wikipedia)  Also note that the entry is filed under Irreligion.

Again from the link above: Agnostic theism could be interpreted as an admission that it is not possible to justify one's belief in a god sufficiently for it to be considered known. This may be because they consider faith a requirement of their religion, or because of the influence of plausible-seeming scientific or philosophical criticism.

Agnostic theism is more of epistemological question than theological question which means it is more about knowledge than religion.

I have been reading Sajha and as such have come across your views, and have always noted your incongruence.

In the following thread that you argue how Christianity is better than other religions. Although I don’t hold you in high regard for maintaining your (in)consistency, how is that congruent with your belief of agnostic theist?

http://sajha.com/sajha/html/index.cfm?StartRow=1&PageNum=1&threadid=101820

In the following comment you talk about religion.

There is always a place for religion. Religion makes us believe that there is something divine out there. However, religion has to update itself on many aspects mainly ensuring freedom for one and all. 

http://sajha.com/sajha/html/index.cfm?StartRow=1&PageNum=1&threadid=101858

My friend, I may on the other side of the table ( I know as an atheist, but you aren’t sure because of agnosticism) but on the right and growing side of table. Here is the latest poll (pdf warning) http://redcresearch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RED-C-press-release-Religion-and-Atheism-25-7-12.pdf

Related news: http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-08-13/national/35491519_1_new-atheism-atheist-groups-new-atheists

You should first debate with deistic theists who vehemently oppose both atheism and agnosticism (of all flavors). I read in one of your posts you support William Lane Craig. You probably don’t know that he considers agnostics as atheists and only supports theistic God – in this instance, Jesus Christ; and opposes Islam. One may wonder how your belief is compatible to his. I can give you the answer: Syncretism and Reductionism – which is basically a CYA.

 

Another of your comment http://sajha.com/sajha/html/index.cfm?StartRow=1&PageNum=1&threadid=102324: Morality is not evolution based, it is rather religion based. Through the return benefit system, you do not get morality but only selfishness. It is religion that teaches do unto others as you want others to do unto you. It is religion that teaches to pray for those who persecute you. You take away religion, you take away all these teachings and on hand you will only have the return benefit system. You are good to me therefore i am good to you.

By attributing morality due to religion and cosmological development to creation or intelligent design of God, you clearly affirm to the Omnipotence and Omniscience of God, if there is one. Now in this thread, all of sudden you’re not sure of it. I don’t expect anything but shape-shifting from you.

In process of reading more about your opinions, I got a premonition that you are another sajha user that I know. I don’t mean to digress from the topic of discussion but just wanted to bring parallels about your particular style of bludgeoning religion chiefly via argumentum ad ignorantiam.

tl;dr : It’s not only semantic difference (you are basically a theist) but your arguments also juxtaposes your beliefs over the time. And I don’t find you worthy of any discussion due to lack of any citation – you assert or opine due to your gut(god) feelings.

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