The more I read about the Iraqi crisis here in Sajha, the more confused I get. First of all, let nobody forget that sajha is an OPEN forum, where people of all inclinations have equal right to put their views forward. So, I am not for 'blockingý'any kind of view. Both the sides, for and against the violence in Nepal, are able to enhance their understanding and are able to express themselves better because someone else is there to challenge their grasp. And let us also not forget that the people who bother to read and post here do so, not only to express their views and opinions but also to 'try getting the other side of the story'ýthe very essence of an open forum. Hence, the suggestion that some posts are undermining the ethos of sajha, or are directed towards any cast/creed, and that they should be censored, is somewhat akin to a fundamentalist, hard-line thinking -- which again, is welcomedýbut the one I am against. CZAR, while respecting your views, I harbor some reservations about your rather 'lopsided' opinions. History need not be the harbinger of the future. That we should/might hate Americans because Jefferson kept slaves while touting about equality for all; that Spaniards should be judged unfairly because of the crimes they committed ages agoýdoes not hold water in this day and age. This is a completely different world, my friend! Very few countries I know can be exempted of atrocities against minorities at one time or the other. Therefore, your argument that Nepali Muslims, or any Muslim around the world for that matter, should be excused of their wrongdoings now, only because they boast a glorious history, is very unreasonable. I DO NOT think that Nepali Muslims echo the thoughts of 'those' fundamentalists in Iraq, but the reasons you give, czar, for exempting them, the Nepalese Muslims, are week. CONFUSED'S points can't be overlooked, either. IF I was in a similar predicament: "nothing do to, your jobless, your college is closed, your school is closed, your family is in debt, you dont have food to eat, government doesnt care, maoists keep on fighting, there isnt any solution..so, to flame up this frustration there is just a need of a Reason" -- a perfectly justifiable reason at that, IF you fulfill most of the requisites above. If not, you may only be able to get the hang of it as an outsider, with enough theoretical knowledge but little understanding of the ground realities, and the mindset of those rioters, I might add. One of the serious flaws I see among the intellectuals in Nepal, particularly those involved in politics, is their sense of self-righteousness. Time and again, the feelings and aspirations of the youth are trampled on in Nepalese society because of the age-old tradition of deeming them naýve and incompetent-- this penchant overriding more rational judgments. This deep rooted frustration, among others, also contributed towards adding fuel to the recent riots. Why are the much vaunted ýintellectualsý refusing to hear us? Isnýt it on the youth that the future of a country rests on? So why we are not trusted, and being excluded in the most important decisions that will shape the future of Nepal? As long as this distrust of the youth remains, expect more of the same ý riots, vandalism, you name it-- when similar incident takes place. Ideologically, everything and anything is possible. Letýs get practical, guys!