oh sorry kalanki bro, i should have named the thread "not for the faint hearted" . k garne, i forgot. Looks like i am forgetting a lot of stuff these days. First, i forget that this is "old stuff, duh" !! and then, wrongly named the thread. Man, i seem to be getting really old ........... that is 21 years old in a few months. oh thank you ......... thank you !! ;-)