And babal khate we do need to discuss more on those topics you and homeyji have raised. This thread can not lead us to the single conclusion on existence or non existence of god. This is more like public poll. We have our own belief or disbelief regarding the existence of god and no one is going to change his/her mind even you put strong arguments. It takes significant amount of time and confrontation with different situations to change one's mind. So better start discussing on those important issues on different threads. I will definitely participate on those.