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birdman2 · Feb 17, 2011 6:00 PM

Sidster,   Let me tell you where you are confused. What you are talking about are the “Cultures of Nepal” which all have their own name and history and doesn’t need to be called with a recently invented nomenclature like “Nepali culture”. God know what that NEPALI CULTURE is and where did it come from, its history and origin. If you cannot understand the difference between these two phrases, then I haven nothing to say. If you see both the phrase having the same meaning you better ask somebody and maybe you can beget a good explanation of the difference.   Just introspect within yourself and understand the two words “Cultures of Nepal” and “Nepali Culture’   Many on one side want to call Khas-kura as “Nepali” language,  the khas media is full of it. They call the rest of the of languages of Nepal in their respective names Maithali, Tamang, Newari (Nepal Bhasa) Bhojpuri, Tharu, Sherpali  and not call them NEPALI. Per your assertion NEPALI CULTURE represent all cultures you mentioned then why doesn’t NEPALI language represent all languages of Nepal?   If you ever do that then we will have to call Khas-kura as Khas-kura and cannot call it  NEPALI  .GET IT?   Let’s be honest to ourselves and call Spade a Spade   BTW each culture you named has it own name and history and its cultural identity. Through history they have been well known with their respective name and do not want another Khas bahun to rename it for them. Please do not try to misrepresent these cultures but he word “NEPALI” which is not a culture per se. A new name to whole number of culture and the Khas wants to own it with a new name. Nothing more.   Just because you have been renaming Khas-Kura to Gorkhali when they reached and ruled over Gorkha, and renamed it again from Gorkhali to NEPALI when they reached and ruled NEPAL. Had they moved on to say Hunan and ruled over Hunan, would it been called HUNANALI ?   Don’t do that. Be honest and simple, and people will respect and befriend you as one deserves, by deed and not by deceit.

daboo · Feb 19, 2011 8:44 AM

If you want to call Ram's father,Father of Ram...i have no problem with that. Fine go ahead and call, Nepali Culture - The culture of Nepal. I know what bothers you the most....it bothers you that those chettries and bahuns ( KHAS per your definition) call themselves Nepali instead of KHAS people. Guess what? We will go by the national identity...we are Nepali and we do not give a Crap on whatever the KHAS culture was....we are Nepali and we do not need any other identity. Yes, if Hunan was ruled and if the winners had liked the name Hunan...we could have called ourself Hunali....( this was the most stupid metaphore you have said so far) The common Language is called the NEPALI language, that is the name that is in use...Now if you want to Call NEWARI language a Nepali languae...that is fine with me too...As you want to be called NEWAR AMERICAN not Nepali AMERICAN. Last edited: 19-Feb-11 09:07 AM

sidster · Feb 19, 2011 9:04 AM

Here is the info you are looking for from where 2000 came from . read on and go figure I hope the .gif loads here. If not i will convert to ms words if you  like  

daboo · Feb 19, 2011 9:28 AM

Daboo, I do not need any information. Its you who needs more information. You have made it pretty clear on what exactly you are after on this thread.

sidster · Feb 19, 2011 9:31 AM

Sidster, I thought you were more intelligent than that to figure out that NEPALI CULTURE, as defined presently, is not the same as CULTURES OF NEPAL. You simplistic reference to “RAM’s father” as “Father of Ram” is surprising. Do not try to compare apple to oranges. They are not the same. Think about it. Know the difference and then let’s talk. You keep calling NEWARI to a language known to history as NEPAL BHASA and that is where your problem lies. If you do not want to acknowledge and accept the fact of history but try to concoct new words and definition it will not fly amongst those who know stuff. You guys have confused the people of Nepal for nearly 240 years and gotten away with it. The day of judgment has come and those good old days of confusing people will be over soon. Tell the truth and accept the reality and try to die a happy man. I want nothing from the Khas Bahun and Khas Chettris or from anybody else for that matter other than truthfulness and honesty. Lies and deceit can take you so far and eventually the truth will come out. Then even in your own community, your children and newer generation will learn the fact from fiction, truth from deceit, that they will turn against you. We are the people of Nepal and this is how it is going to be. Everyone need a chance at  life and I do not want to see only the Khas Bahun standing in the way with their nepotism and favoritism, natabadhi and kripabaadhi propagating only their own to the top echelon of the power structure and trying to enact laws and rules benefitting only their own clans to prop up their own power at the cost of so many talented and dedicated people of Nepal who can help build a better Nepal that what we have right now. Total failure of those in power is appalling and pathetic. Never seen people with so much power with so little achievement and with such a loud mouth of them all.   The info for the 2000 is not for you it is for your friend Dharke, or what ever is his name is. Let him look into it.  

daboo · Feb 19, 2011 12:56 PM

Everyone need a chance at  life and I do not want to see only the Khas Bahun standing in the way with their nepotism and favoritism, natabadhi and kripabaadhi propagating only their own to the top echelon of the power structure and trying to enact laws and rules benefitting only their own clans to prop up their own power at the cost of so many talented and dedicated people of Nepal who can help build a better Nepal that what we have right now. It seems like you are asking Bahun Chettries to do something for you? Should KHAS people force themselves to get low scores on Lok Seva tests, medical Entrance tests, and College entrance tests so that more Low Scored Newars can get it??? I do not know if that is what you are asking of or not? Why can't you and your friends do something on your own other than asking the hated KHAS group? Nepotism and favoritism are real issues in Nepal...i am sure you raised real concerns when Ganesh Man Shrestha was handing positions to his son and wife rampantly back in his power days. I am also hopeful that you will raise voice for Newars to give up some of their anchesteriol trades to Bahun and Chettries because there are so many Newars in trades and less bahuns.

sidster · Feb 19, 2011 2:54 PM

Daboo, I was waiting for the answer for the magic numbe 2000 too. You claimed to have posted the link in .gif which I don not see !! Am I missing something here ? Daboo, what truthfulness and honesty are you talking about ? why don't you start from yourself ? why don't you first stop blaming others !! You are full of hatred. चनाकोra Dabooko  लोक्-सेवाको रटान मैले बुझिन do they require you to be top-notch in Nepali (oops Khas language in your dictionary) just to answer those questions in that exam. I have never appeared to that test so I am not familiar ! बाँदर बढी बाठो भयो भने के भएर मर्छ भन्थे चनाको व्यबहार तेस्तै लाग्यो । चनालाई म के भन्न चाहन्छु भने,अलिकति पढे लेकेपछि 'मै डुम् मै राजा' भन्ने भाबले 'मेरो गोरुको बार्है टक्का' गर्दै हिंडेको मान्छेलाई म के भन्न चाहन्छु भने यस्ता वाइयात, बकम्फुसे कुरा गर्नु भन्दा प्रगतिशिल ठाउमा दिमाग खर्च गर। तिमी जातियताको कुरा निकाल्न चाहन्थेनौ भने यो धागो कुनाइ नेवारी साइटमा हुनु पर्थ्यो !! किन साझा (सबैको कमन)मा राख्यौ ?   Last edited: 19-Feb-11 03:53 PM

himal411 · Feb 19, 2011 3:50 PM

lol, I am also waiting He just loves to talk, without any responsibility, it seems

_____ · Feb 19, 2011 8:12 PM

"You guys have confused the people of Nepal for nearly 240 years and gotten away with it. The day of judgment has come and those good old days of confusing people will be over soon. Tell the truth and accept the reality and try to die a happy man." tounge of prachanda-absolute commie crap! and he is teling the truth to others and telling to accept it.. go daboo entertain us go  go I m with you..

kanchu! · Feb 19, 2011 10:45 PM

newar, gurung, magar, madhesh yo sabai birsera singo nepal matra bhanera desh ko bikash sambhav chhaina, yeuta ghar ramro banna itta ko pani kura hunchha, cement ko pani kura hunchha, baluwa, gitti harek sabai milepachhi balla euta ramro ra baliyo ghar banchha. newar harule newar culture, language ko development ma lagnu parchha ra anya le aa aafno culture ra bhasa ko development ma . nepal ko pahichan bhaneko nai bibidhta ho. tyahi bibidhta herna ko lagi bideshi paryatak haru nepal aaune hun. aba yo bibidhta nai rahena bhane ke banki rahanchha yahan ? kura yatti ho ki aafu lai maya garda aru lai ghrina garnu hunna. ra ahile nepali bhaniyeko bhasa lai khas bhasa bhanyo bhanera rishaunu parne karan pani chhaina yahan. kinaki yo bhasa ko purano nam yahi ho, khas bhasa or gorkha bhasa. aaja samma gorkhapatra sabaile dekhekai chha. sajha prakashan ko purano nam gorakha bhasa prakashan samiti thiyo bhanera kaslai thaha chhaina ra. discrimination ko sawal ma eutai matra bhasa lai priority diyeko ta chha nai yahan, satyata swikarna saknu parchha. yahan anya jatjati le aafno iksha anusar aafno bhasa padhna paundainan, lekhna paundainan.  ma school ma chhanda teacher harule nepal bhasa boleko dekhda malai punish gariyeko thiyo. ahile office ma newar sathi haru nepal bhasa boleko dekhda office ma NEWARI nabolaun bhanera rokna aaunchha. sthaniya nikay ma sudda sthaniya bhasa ko nibedan reject hunchha. ahile nepali bhaniyeko khas bhasa khas bramhan haruko matri bhasa ho. aba jasko matri bhasa ho tiniharule jati ta aru kasaile ramro ra suddha bolna sakdai sakdainan. tyahi aadhar ma lok sewa ko exam bata matra khas bramhan ra kshetri matrai pass hunchhan, yahi ho discrimination. sabai lai saman abasar bhaye kasailai pani yahan asantusti hundaina thiyo ni. asaman paristhiti nai ho jasle asantusti janmayeko chha. malai khas bhasa prati kunai ghrina chhaina, malai ghrina yasto asaman prabritti prati chha. ra sathi haru, my comments was not directed the people like you bhandai ma hundaina. community lai target garera comment rakhna banda garaun sabaile. sabaile means newar sathi harule pani. tee comments ma haru bhanne sabda le sabai community lai nai indicate garchha. malai lagchha sathi harule mero kura bujhnechhan.

bhakungwarakhyaa · Feb 22, 2011 4:54 AM