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spend sleepless night rewriting, copying and re-cycling the information we all know in this boring and extended monologue.
Yeah I spend time to say something about some couture, be it mine or others culture. Regarding the “sleepless night” I again say “speak for yourself” and don’t under estmate other people you don’t have right to do that. If you really think I need sleepless night just to write few pages, that just shows your inability of thinking, not mine.
Rewriting and recycling
In which century you are living? Whatever you said was just from you head, no research done? No one knew about it before it just popped up in your brain?? Are you a psychic??
Boring and monologous?
When someone says something about your culture it becomes boring and monologues to you? You have no habit of listening to others or what?
And even if it is boring accept it, things about your culture is boring to you it is not my fault. Monologue? Do you have difficulty in understanding meaning of English words, if you have then check in the dictionary what is the meaning of monologue. I am saying it again, think before what you write and understand what you are writing. Just gathering group of word doesn’t make any sense.
Waste of time …
LOL, when some one spends time about your culture you consider it as a waste of time? Is reading about your culture is waste of time, is that what you think? So, finally you said it about you culture: Bravo what a respect you are showing to your culture. You said it clear and loud what you think about your culture.
Next time write from your head:
lol apparently you failed to see which part I have referenced and which part not. Can’t you find those simple things in my answer? Do you have limitation of understanding English language?? Or when I give examples of other scholar’s hard work, you are afraid of facing the reality. Does reality bites you?
I went to sleep after few para cause it was uninteresting a bunch of babbling mumbo jumbo. It felt like a Pundit recital rattling lots of un-understandable
Yeah you said it loud again you feel sleepy when reading things about your culture. Things about your culture are uninteresting to you and it is mumbo jumbo. Or you are a spoiled child who just wants to listen to praises and cant withstand criticism. Are you a spoiled child??
Yeah, things written in plain English in un-understandable to you. Bravo brother you proved yourself
Sorry, for me it is just lots of water poured over aimlessly and uselessly indicative of utter frustration with no rational arguments and thus venting oneself with lots of words.
You said you it took few hrs just to scroll down and went to sleep after few para and still dare to reply? Don’t you think if you want praise or criticize what someone has written you need to read it entirely? Looks like you were unable to learn these things in school, you had a learning problem??
You admit that you have not read completely what I have written and still you are saying lots of water poured over aimlessly and uselessly indicative of utter frustration with no rational arguments and thus venting oneself with lots of words. It might be different then that how do you know? Wherever you go you express your opinion about things like that? Is your opinion about your culture is also without reading anything? That is what you do in practice? Is that the common practice in your culture?
Next time try to be short and precise if you want people to read it and react properly to it. People in America and even here in Nepal does not have time to go thru this “Panditam Puranam”.
Haha, if it is difficult for you to read few pages then you haven’t read the history written by Dhanabajra Bajracharyaa you know how big the book is. Forget about him he is too much of a scholar for you try any history paper in journal have you read any of those? I bet not because they have many pages.Or may be you just want to avoid embarrassment and asking me not to write in detail
Ppl in America and even here in Nepal does not have time
First, speak for yourself, if people don’t have time they don’t come to Sajha and read it, I am not forcing anyone to read it. I have not forced you to reply to me have I? Why and what are you afraid of? Let people decide for themselves whether they have time or not, don’t try to impose. Or are you the time keeper of Nepalies and American Nepalies?
Fact is when PNS invaded the “Nepal Khalto) and army of some 2000
LOL, which scholar’s hard work is that? When you specify number don’t you think you should give credit to the person who came up with that number? Nobody taught you that? Or you failed to learn general curtsey, which one is true?
Oh, yeah since you don’t recycle info and copy paste that number may have just popped up in your head. Is that true?
Or may be you have time machine you went back to time and saw PNS with 2000 ppl and you made sure that those 2000 were Brahmins by counting their tuppi? They might have topi in their head did you took all the topi and checked their tuppi? Other wise from where you got that 2000 number??
May be you are a psychic; things automatically come to your brain? Which version is true?
Or, its stealing from others work and saying from your head is your practice? That is what your culture taught you?
So many options is available for you please have guts to choose the option you like or if there is other option you are free to tell from where that number 2000 came?
On their advice: this also just popped up in your head or someone else has written it? Are you saying this is your intellect or from your head? Then ok you don’t have to give the reference but again I will be asking what the logic behind it? But if it is written by someone else then you are in trouble? You know what plagiarism is? Looks like you have no respect to the hard work of other people. That makes you what?
Same questions go to you other claims in that paragraph of yours.
What ever they touched turned to art and this was what the new victors were after, to own the artifacts and not to preserve the people and its culture.
Yeah you know how to blame may be it is in you blood, were you there when they were advising PNS, which scholars work is that? When a culture has such a person it doesn’t need outsiders for its demise. Your negative attitude is more than enough?
If these rulers were real connoisseurs and lovers of arts then why did they not help real development of the arts of Nepal ever in 240 years It is easy to say “you are wrong” but it is difficult to see what’s going on in contemporary world, analyze and come to the conclusion.
Example: everyone says Pyramids are great. But no one builds new pyramids why? Every one says the architecture of the post renaissance buildings in europe are great but no one is building such buildings why? Visit south India and you will see great temples, idols there, they are proud of those, South India is ruled by south Indians, but no one is building new temples why?
Because priorities changes with time, things doesn’t not stop, time doesn’t freez at certain point of civilization, ppl move on , new reality demands new things that is when people stop following old habits. Likewise in Nepal too time doesn’t stop at Newari art and culture. If we continue same thing again and again then there won’t be any new thing.
Human civilization, culture always moves forward no one can stop it. If it was possible to continue same thing and if it was not necessary to move forward, gopal bansi could have done that, Kirats could have done that, Lichhabi could have done that there by no chance of development of Newari culture but ppl move forward living behind old thoughts, civilization and culture. That moving forward attitude paved the way for the development of Newari culture but after the development of Newari culture you guys want to freez the time, sorry that is not the human nature, Please don’t try to go against how humans are build. Whatever you try to stop there is always a group of people wanting to try new things.
BUT I know this plain English answer is un understandable to you. You just want to hide inside the solace of your thoughts. Or, may be you sleep while reading this. What I know is even after just scrolling my posting you love to answer don’t you? It doesn’t bother me but you are making yourself a laughing stuff. Don’t you think there are many sajhaites who read but don’t comment and those silent readers just make some sort opinion about you and next time when you post something they read you’re posting with previous opinion. Don’t forget you are writing not only for me but also to those silent readers. I know you won’t understand these things you already said it.
With such power in hand and with such clever advisors, one had the sublime opportunity to do real good deeds for the subjects and the people of the land for their welfare and freedom, for their personal, social and economical development. ……….. people would have respected and revered just rulers and the history and legacy would have remembered them as great leaders and rulers. That could have been a WIN WIN situation.
Lol, so in your tradition losers decide win win situation ha? that’s like Prachands speech, too much of talk. I can say same thing to Malla Kings and/ or to Yakchya Malla, read below.
“Instead of dividing a country among brothers and treating its inhabitants as subjects they should have developed a strong country and stay united so that it could have survived “khas” invaders. Science was taking front stage in many countries but the Kings of city states were busy creating the story that goddess used to came at night to play game with them. Foreigners were coming from thousands of miles (English) to colonize the land. Instead of realizing where world is heading, those kings were always involved in infighting. They were unable to fulfill the people’s aspiration and unable to understand the fact that if you can’t keeps your citizen happy they will not be loyal to you. This became the main cause of demise of Malla Kings.”
One of the popular stories about creation of living goddess is goddess Taleju used to come at midnight to play tripasha with king Jaya Prakash Malla , one night the king had a sexual look at her, the goddess got angry and disappeared, reappeared in his dream telling him that she will come and advise him about “Rajkaj” but not directly but in the form of Kumari , another version is that the goddess had condition that no one should see her except the king but one day queen saw so she disappeared and reappeared in his dream with already mentioned things.
Another version of Kumari was the king was raping a 13 yrs old Shakya gal,(The gal didn’t had her first period) she died during this, and queen came to knew this incident. Queen was very angry; she told him he will go to hell for doing this thing to a kid. They later consulted Brahmins and as per his suggestion the started the Kumari tradition,
The 17th century falls into the early modern period of Europe and in that continent was characterized by the Dutch Golden Age, the Baroque cultural movement, the Scientific Revolution, and The General Crisis. End of the Dutch Revolt, the disintegration of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the English Civil War.
But the Kings in KTM valley were still visited by goddess to play tripasha and advice him on “Rajkaj” and that story creates the tradition of Kumari, “aafule raati raati moj garna lerako kt, tyo pani Rani lai thaha nadikana, lai goddess bhandai janata lai murkha banauney aani PNS le invade garyo bhanne” Are you really proud of some of these cultures? Are you sure these cultures were started by locals? There is yet another version of Kumari story that is even more disgusting then these.
The story of Gai Jatra is to soothe the grief-stricken Queen after their youngest son died. Started by Pratap Malla, and it is celebrated in the month of “Bhadau” Which is a very busy month for harvesting corn , beans and preparing the land for winter crop but King asked everyone whose family member died in that year to parade in front of queen. When prince dies they are in grief but they don’t care about the grief of their citizens and work they have to do in busy month but they had to parade in front of queen just to sooth her and who will soothe the ordinary citizens? You know it also rains in that month and locals have to parade without protection from rain if it is rainy. Lol what a great service of a king to its people and you are proud of it isn’t it?
Likewise Indra Jatra was started by Guna Kamadev,
You said many Jatras any festivals has their origin in local people not on the ruler. History says otherwise. Many festivals and Jatras were started by Kings. Yeah yeah I know this thought is product of your intelligent brain and just popped up in your head. You know everything, understand everything. Those history books mean nothing to you.
may overlooked it intentionally. “Nepal khalto” as you know, was a real melting pot, a sanctuary for those who were prosecuted and chased away from their native land….
This para contains some part which is summary from grade 10 history book and other parts partially contain what I believe too. Now you are saying local ppl were not ruled by local Kings, and most of the kings were from different places.
Mr. Daboo one hand you say rich cultural local people and on the other hand you say not ruled by local people. When a society becomes culturally reach the society enters into complex stage, it creates different hierarchy and defends itself, no advance and culturally rich people easily accept outsider as their king without a fight. If you study culturally rich societies everywhere around the world they show same practice.
Oops sorry. I forgot you feel sleepy when reading lots of material. May be that is why you haven’t learned many things. Please read how society and cultures transform themselves during different stages of its development. And I am sorry to know that these things didn’t popped up in your brain by itself. So why don’t you take your time machine and see what you said is true or not?
A well cultured and developed society is always ruled by their own Leader in the beginning. Later on when they are invaded by different ruler, depending upon the time and nature of the ruler the local people are either mostly massacred or looted and converted into working class then again those invaders bring their people too, mostly soldiers, their families, logistic suppliers otherwise invaders wont be able to survive in new land because old people always try to revolt if they see the new ruler is weak in power.
After the 17th century as population grew the uniter, conqurrer or invaders were happy when the people of new land obey them. For this they used to have enough soldiers of their tribes and also at that time it was not possible for mass to change their place. That is what PNS did, took the place, he was intelligent enough not to disturb the tradition of local people because he didn’t have enough army to control KTM valley and on the top of that he had plans to take other city states too. At that time Gorkha was far less populated than any of the city states of KTM valley.
Yeah Yeah Ktm was melting point you are saying as if there were no other culture developing nearby. You know there were many culture with more advance system in place at that time. Just read the history of Banaras, and surrounding cities. Sorry I forgot you feel sleepy when reading things written by other people, you just need things to come automatically inside your head.
One more question, in you sanctuary so called “khas” were there or not? Did they contribute or not? Or in you melting point sanctuary “khas” were not allowed to enter? Were they banned to enter into KTM valley? If they were there why you deny the contribution from “Khas” to Newari culture? Or in order to accept their contribution they have to be converted into Newar first? Which one is true?
If you don’t know how to validate your point don’t give lecture. And when I say this don’t think I am so labeled “khas”. I am just trying to show the bitter reality and false pride based on twisted assumption and wrong perception of certain group of people.
Regarding the word “Nepali” you will not be able to stop the use of word even in republic Nepal.
Now don’t tell me that you are planning a Jihad for infidel “khas”. You are free to practice what you believe, destroy your passport because it portrays you as Nepali not as Newah. Burn your citizenship card because it recognizes you as a Nepali citizen, can you do that? If you can’t, don’t come and lecture. You know what lots of people with extreme thoughts cant realize they are becoming extremist.
Are you grammatically dis-advantaged? Or intentionally corrupting the words?
Lol, slackdemic already answered you that, you still don’t get it?? Don’t worry you don’t understand these things
But, just for a thought looks like instead of concentrating on core subject you are trying your best to find my mistakes whatever it may be.
Instead of living on your strengths are you trying to live with others weakness. You know there is a special word for people who try to live with others weakness. Your intelligent brain could not find that word? Then goggle it.
Even let us say My English is week, are you trying to make fun out of it? When so labeled “khas”say something about the Nepali language you guys speak you make big fuss out of it. When so labeled “khas” do it is wrong but when you do it ok, isn’t it? Are you a new “khas” in town? Lol that is what happens when you know only your side of the story. I don’t try to find typo in others post. And I know as you said before you will be answering this post without reading just scrolling.
PS: It is not my intention to defame Newari or any other culture or group of people, my answer is directed towards the person mentioned and others with same attitude.