kalopani,

Now you are slowly getting personal.

I didn't say all students have greencard. Though some have. I would give you the place where I live, but it is sajha. Why bother giving up my privacy just to win an argument? Anyway, I live in a very popular tourist destination in the west coast. If you don't know, the conversion rate for asylym application (which eventually lead to greencard, I have heard) is (or at least was until a few months ago) almost 100%.  Several students too took up this opportunity. I knew a few kids who were here, applied for asylym, and then moved elsewhere.

It takes years to make money like Tamang or Gurung. Btw, Tamang was also a returnee from foreign country. In America too, it takes years to make a decent amount of money. Lots of people in US too has no saving. Economic crisis last year has sent people back to work in their retirement age. If you are expecting to make karods in your first year doing business, then you better have a great idea.

To sum it up, starting a business, making it run successfully is a very arduous task. It takes talent, luck and what not. To those who want a lazy life, working their ass off to their retirement, who want to run away from their country because the country is not as good as USA, they will find excuses to run away and for them, america is a pleasing option. If you think you are bright, you can transform a society back home whether by introducing a new product, or by creating jobs, being a Nepali Nepal is the right place for you.

Without mincing my words, what I absolutely don't like is people coming here making bogus claim that it requires 6 ropanis of land to start a business and somehow access to credit is really easy in the states or barrier to entry for business is nonexistent in the states[I bet those who say starting a business is easy here hasn't done so. How hard it is to start a mill, a restaurant or a coffee shop in Nepal and how many permission do you require to do so in the states?]. US credit scenario has changed in the last few years. Nor is it an absolutely business friendly place. The regulations (like the one I mentioned above) are increasingly insane. But what you should note is that if you are poor, it is not easy to get credit or do things anywhere in the world. If you don't have talent to succeed in business world, if you don't have enough network, if you don't have charming personality, it is tough everywhere.

I don't want to spend too much time in Sajha, so here are my last words. We all must work hard. But just bitching about Nepal is not gonna help us. If people like Mahabir Pun or Sanduk Ruit had listened to you guys and stayed in the first world, it wouldn't have made Nepal any better off. More educated people in Nepal can't be a bad thing, and in fact, that's the only way to take our country forward. baaki, yedi kohi england, australia or us ma basna chahanchhan bhane uniharuko marjee, kasale ke bhanna sakchha ra.
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Chana,

I think it is okey to ask a states-living Nepali how much he earn in the states, after all that is why he went to the states. I think those in Nepal, making it big there, running good firms and hiring people, do have right to ridicule the people who go to the states by claiming they never belonged to Nepal. In particular, I have hard time forgiving a group of people who come to the states and don't go back: those who worked for govt and came here for training and never went back,  the J1 visa people , those who studied in sarkari schools/engineering college/medical college and never ever thought of paying back etc.