Posted by: bhikhaari June 8, 2009
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Objections:
1. "Newars are being minority in their own land."
WTF? Own land? ji newah, there is no such thing as own and mine. everything runs is dialectical way that supports the survival of the fittest. mauryans were replaced by lichchhavis, them by newars, them by chalukayas - bottom line: if one can't hold on to their position for too long, others will take over - simple as that. hence, please don't personalize the country based on any creed - race, religion or anything else.
2. They get alarmed if one Newah talks in Nepal bhasha with another Newah.
you think so because you want to. i'm brahman by race (but F**K it, i care not) but was raised among newars. i speak perfect newari so does my dad, my grandpa, my grandma, my uncle. even my aunt, who did not know newari, learnt the language after her marriage to better know newar people and their culture. i totally don't see your statement's validation. i'm not saying that all people are tolerant like people in my village but trust me, it is your manko baagh eating you up brother, not people of other races. i've seen people - not only brahmins, but other casts too - calling newars different names but calling them "an alien language speaking alien race"? Never! these 23 years, i've never seen anyone anywhere asking a newar to not speak in newari amongst themselves. o'course, if there's a group of friends/people of mixed races, they speak the common language - nepali. but once again, never seen anyone asking newars (probably unknown/strangers) to stop speaking newari.
3. coming to your martyr's viewpoint, dashrath chand was not brahmin. please review your history. his full name: dashrath chand thaakur, so, a rajput, ie chhetri. am not trying to create a fight here but please, check your sources again before commenting on history.
4. "..the mercenary Prithvi and his bahun advisors.."
sir, had not this mercenary united eastern nepal and his son the western nepal, you'd probably be speaking english now, let alone newari and nepali. i know the way he attacked kirtipur, how he treated the residents there, and the way he attacked the valley were not 'by law', per say. but don't you believe that there have been more gains than the losses? and please, he also killed magars, chhetris, even his own relatives (nuwakot, makwanpur and so on). so, history seems to speak for all other castes, not just newars. again, not trying to debate your views, but just pointing out that there were many others who suffered as well, thus lets respect their tolerance too.
5. i am sad to see that you have missed the point about autonomous newah state. it is not being done for snatching ktm or lalitpur or bhaktapur as a different state from the country itself. in fact, it is the voice for the recogition of newars, their contributions and their rich culture. i was in nepal when they organised peace rallies and kon-sabhas before declaring the bandh. i was in ason when they had organized a musical-dabali. clearly, they were not looking for a separation, but a space among the chaos where they can celebrate their cultural richness, where they can be assured that their heritage will be safe.
two quotes at the end:
1. Bertrand Russel: Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity
toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.
2. Nietzsche: “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
Any and all comments are welcome.
1. "Newars are being minority in their own land."
WTF? Own land? ji newah, there is no such thing as own and mine. everything runs is dialectical way that supports the survival of the fittest. mauryans were replaced by lichchhavis, them by newars, them by chalukayas - bottom line: if one can't hold on to their position for too long, others will take over - simple as that. hence, please don't personalize the country based on any creed - race, religion or anything else.
2. They get alarmed if one Newah talks in Nepal bhasha with another Newah.
you think so because you want to. i'm brahman by race (but F**K it, i care not) but was raised among newars. i speak perfect newari so does my dad, my grandpa, my grandma, my uncle. even my aunt, who did not know newari, learnt the language after her marriage to better know newar people and their culture. i totally don't see your statement's validation. i'm not saying that all people are tolerant like people in my village but trust me, it is your manko baagh eating you up brother, not people of other races. i've seen people - not only brahmins, but other casts too - calling newars different names but calling them "an alien language speaking alien race"? Never! these 23 years, i've never seen anyone anywhere asking a newar to not speak in newari amongst themselves. o'course, if there's a group of friends/people of mixed races, they speak the common language - nepali. but once again, never seen anyone asking newars (probably unknown/strangers) to stop speaking newari.
3. coming to your martyr's viewpoint, dashrath chand was not brahmin. please review your history. his full name: dashrath chand thaakur, so, a rajput, ie chhetri. am not trying to create a fight here but please, check your sources again before commenting on history.
4. "..the mercenary Prithvi and his bahun advisors.."
sir, had not this mercenary united eastern nepal and his son the western nepal, you'd probably be speaking english now, let alone newari and nepali. i know the way he attacked kirtipur, how he treated the residents there, and the way he attacked the valley were not 'by law', per say. but don't you believe that there have been more gains than the losses? and please, he also killed magars, chhetris, even his own relatives (nuwakot, makwanpur and so on). so, history seems to speak for all other castes, not just newars. again, not trying to debate your views, but just pointing out that there were many others who suffered as well, thus lets respect their tolerance too.
5. i am sad to see that you have missed the point about autonomous newah state. it is not being done for snatching ktm or lalitpur or bhaktapur as a different state from the country itself. in fact, it is the voice for the recogition of newars, their contributions and their rich culture. i was in nepal when they organised peace rallies and kon-sabhas before declaring the bandh. i was in ason when they had organized a musical-dabali. clearly, they were not looking for a separation, but a space among the chaos where they can celebrate their cultural richness, where they can be assured that their heritage will be safe.
two quotes at the end:
1. Bertrand Russel: Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity
toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.
2. Nietzsche: “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
Any and all comments are welcome.