Posted by: Eagle5 April 2, 2008
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Chana Tarkari!

Unlike you, i do not “create concept of civilization". I know what Khin, Dhimen, or you name it all the folk songs, prayers and rituals involve in Newar culture. But when you talk about civilization, you should every civilization has certain origin and impacts. It is process of evolution.  I do not if you have read any history books other than school history. Indus Valley Civilization, Mohenzodaro and Harappa, and Vedic Civilization are the origin of civilization of Indian Subcontinent. Agriculture, cattle grazing, property barricading already were there in Vedic Civilization.  Building and Planning culture, brick making techniques, advanced drainage technique are the key feature of Indus Valley and Mohenjodaro civilization. FYI, Lichhavi period was more sophisticated than Malla (known as golden period of Nepal civilization-unfold the pages of history book) and advanced in terms of civilization. Underground water spout ( which is based on Vastusaastra principle-origin Vedic Civilization) which you or many may think belongs to Malla period, are mostly belong to Lichhavi( thakuri) period. Buddhist chaitya, including many biharas and stupas also belong to the same period. I do not know if you ever heard of “Rajkulo” the roylal water canal, again it was the Lichhavi who constructed it to bring water from highland to low land.  Kailashkut of Ansu Verma, Narendradev's Palace were there before malla came. Malla however did good job continuing and marinating what they inherited. So do not think Malla did good job, they did good job in terms of building palaces for their own goods lets not forget this. So do not think, it was during mall period our civilization of the valley reached at its peak!

Going back to your point, whey Kathamdnu is called NEPA or Nepal, that is due to Ne-Rishi or Ne-Muni ( Buddhist newars argue Manjushree, hindu argu Krishna) who created or contributed in creation of valley.  Just because of that when we talk about Nepalese civilization it should only be valley?? That is your shallow analysis. Valley may have larger impact on Nepalese civilization, which every one can accept.Again for your wisdom, Lichhavi were all around the country- Farpring (then known as Falpring- pring “means settlement, Khopring-now Khopasi) and many more were already part of Nepalese ( lichhavi) civilization. SO do not try to say that “ newar are only part of ktm” with your shallow knowledge you can say that, but there were not only newars in the valley! Newars however got more opportunity in Malla period because of trade opportunities with Tibet.

Read the book- and if you have some reference share that to me! But do not talk here from the hats that you are not wearing!

You want source-“read these”- “Nepal Mandela”, “Brick and Bulls” “Buddhist Monastery of Nepal” and many more if you want…you will get scared I know coz these are pretty thick books! Are you interested???  

GUD LUCK!

 

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