Posted by: chanaa_tarkaari April 1, 2008
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Eagle5,

I agree that it may sound harsh if we say - "when we speak of Nepalese civilization, we can ONLY mean Newar civilization"; but I disagree with your opinion that we can relate our nepalese civilization to Indus valley and vedic civilization. If we want to include other major nepalese civilizations, we may add mithila civilization, karnali-civilization etc. in addition to Newar Civilization instead of trying to relate nepalese civilization with Indus valley and vedics that were never influencial in Nepal until Mallas entered. From your comment, it is clear that you have poor understanding on Newar civilization as you state Newar - or Malla came to valley lonmg after  these civilization evolved in the region, during only 12th century. This is totally wrong concept. Newars are the people who were in Valley since the history of KTM is known, be it ruled by Gopals or Mahishpals or Kirats. All rulers including Mallas were outsiders for Newar people, and those outsider rulers vanish into Newar community after certain period of ruling. Vedic or Indus civilization did neither evolved or flourished in Nepalese territory during or before 12th century.

Mallas can be credited to bring and aggressively promote some part of vedic civilization in Nepal. Mallas diffused themself in Newar Civilization after few generation of their entry. They trademarked some of the indigenous cultural assets in their name. For example, Prataap Malla initiated a jatra, and he became an icon behind the jatra, but if you analyze the whole details of the jatra, they are not invented or forumulated or founded by Pratap Malla. To understand this you need to understand how such festivals are celebrated. The way people play instruments like Mwayeli and Khin, the way they dress up and dance, the way they pray the god, the way of maintaining hierarchy and discipline, the way of making those rituals economically sustainable, the way of cooking foods for the festival, the way of construction and architecture etc. all are the unique assets of Newar Civilization that existed centuries before Pratap Malla announced the festival. Civilization is that whole package that was developed gradually in the course of 1000s years of history. Therefore you can not say they are brought in KTM or Nepal by Mallas.

The another important point is, if you are talking about current affairs or politics, you can say KTM IS NOT ONLY NEPAL! but if you talk about civilization you must say KTM WAS ONLY NEPAL! This is the historical fact and well appreciated by everybody. Such historical facts may be reflected in current affairs too. For example, we don't say Nepali Army Batallion for the nepalese people working in Indian Army or British Army or Brunei or wherever they exist, we say them Gurkha Army Batallion, Why? Because they inherited the pride of Gorkha, not Nepal. Similarly, when we talk about nepalese civilization, we do not talk about indus or vedic civilization but we talk about Newar Civilization. (Notice, I would kick out ONLY from what bejace wrote) So, it would be wise to have broad understanding on the civilization stuffs first before jumping over on someone with derrogatory words like KUWAKO BHYAGUTA or 'caste' mentality.

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