\\so wit's end....now i have one more question... what do you have to say about being a stock broker and an investor at the same..?? Now, after reading your comments, my concern is if the stock broker just acts as middle man between the companies and the investors...or do they manupulate the deals...because i believe more the transactions more the commission for them, rt?>? So how right is it ethically to propose a bad deal, just to make more money..??