I second twin cities...KG aint going anywhere. trades involving him makes for a good speculation discussion but that's about it all. nor is kobe going anywhere. players like KG & Kobe make more than 50% of total nba salary cap. so unless you have some very good 1st-2nd year players no one team can afford them, unless ofcourse you pay the luxury tax...which is for every $1 you go over you'll have to pay another $1 or 100% tax. everyone keeps talking about the bulls in these big name rumors but why would they want to part ways with their young nucleus and bring on KG or Kobe with their huge contracts?? yes they will be the favorites to win for the next 1-2-3 years but it won't be a done deal. the suprs aren't going anywhere and jazz will only get older and experienced. so if the bulls make deal for one of these guys and don't win in the next few years they are looking at another long rebuilding just like the ex jordan era that took them good 6-8 years. when they can just keep the core group of guys they have right now, keep grooming them and let them get the experince and you can be a really good competitive team for the next 10 years. so any trade involving these big names guys with the bulls for their young guys just don't make sense to me....not to mention bulls have a couple decent expiring contracts that they can use to go after may be not a super star type but certainly an allstar type i.e. shawn marion anyways...good to see some familiar names to talk hoops on a slowww day at work. ax and unknown bro, you guys excited abt this year's draft? i am...esp for our fantasy draft...there will be some sleepers