Well said Samsara... Let truth be told, Carl Malone was one of the dirtiest player in the game...Also, about Bruce Bowen, he applies similar tactics that Malone and other "Dirty" players implemented. Dirty does not necessairly mean bad...its just that you get away with it.... I recall the phrase I once heard, "You ain't trying if you are not cheating, and It aint cheating until you get caught."