LOL! meek bro, i am sorry if i sounded like a nuisance--although i did not intend to-- coz for the first time in this forum, i have gotten the impression that i pissed more than one head seriously bad--that's my observation-courtesy- the"implicit" message i got from some of your postings ni pheri ;p. at the risk of dragging this discussion to further boredom and triviality for others, let me reiterate few points to clear my thoughts, if i may. in the very first post, I wrote: in academia, to me, Dr. Minendra Rijal is a living encyclopedia. he may not be greatest of the orators, but boy, he seem to "know" everything. now when did i claim him to be the greatest of the orators? i mentioned his name coz i thought, although not impressively articulate, he got some vision worth a note. if sajha does not allow that bit of leverage to divert from the topic, then it’s not the sajha i have known for years! in response you wrote: Minendra Rijal is another false intellectual who pretends to know everything but quite really doesn't if the "diversion from the topic" thing bothered you so much then why did NOT you inform or alarm me right away after my first post? instead you continued on and presented your opinion on him --which is fine! but why NOW, after so many posts, you want to tell me that i diverted from the topic in the first place by bringing Rijal in the scene? i don’t understand this inconsistency in your part. secondly, whether you get the “implicit” feeling or otherwise, i have NOT said IMPLICITLY OR EXPLICITLY that your following statement to my first post was personal. but you wrote: It is non personal when you quote somebody but becomes personal when I quote the same person. Is this a subtle hypocrisy? if you got that implicit feeling, then i can’t help it coz have already clarified that i have not done or said anything intentionally to disturb you or others. usablues, first thing first hai. agreed...the thread was asking for the orators and i did divert from the topic a bit. but as i explained to meek, if minor diversions from the main topic like this was not one of essence of sajha, many users here would not even participate! at least, that's how i have known sajha to be. if you have different impression about it, then sorry for the assumption but you must be a newbie here. secondly, i named Dr. Rijal coz i was/am impressed by him. i do not tend to blow the undeserving trumpet for anyone. GODLY knowledge?---i have never said that. that's your own statement. fine if someone does not agree, am not asking for a favor to agree with me, am i? ignore and rest in peace--that's it! but tell me one thing, why is that we, general nepali, don't like to hear good things about our fellow nepalese?