hehe captain, i think political debates are for the newbies not for the veterans--put it that way? :P LOL...and oh yah, sajhauser is gone for good. :-). i do miss her as i found her to be the most impressive among the female users we had at that time when she was around. :-) and sndy, what you saying???? retirement re???? don't you dare repeat that word again :P...you are not even a year old in sajha, why so hurry???? it does cross through my mind at times though, but somehow, threads like this help to keep me going.