anshuji, Here are my cents or paisa whatever: 1. This debate is a close to the question,"is burning flag free speech?", and vast majority of americans think it's a crime while high court disagree. 2.While you're thinking as court and rest as americans in this issue. 3.But believe me or not, patriotism does good to the country whether it is based on true or false pretence (USA is good example). 4.People often feel- does it make sense to give damn about free speech if there is no nation or nationalism? 5. We all know thin ice is there and must be resolved but to insult the nation as whole even before serious issues are debated proves that so called these leadership have already made up their mind, where they belong? 6. What people here (with diversity) wanted to point out was emotional side of patriotism whether he is well informed or not, it really doesn't matter but does country good. 7. Should we give high regard to someone's personal freedom at the expense of nation? Loktantra comes only after Desh not vice versa. Thank god we can still extend this thread up. 8.Remember free speech is not absolute,it is suspendable sometimes in the interest of nation (Ex. FDR) and hatred free speech? it is quelled often. 9.Spreading hate about particular race ethnicity is the main issue here- crime in most countries.Under development, discrimination issues are valid,so why not say these kathmanduwale,sarkarwale instead of race based slogan like khas or pahade? 10.Using term madesh, madhesi may be the starting point, to conincide with our popular slang (sadly) "madeshe dhoti",otherwise most only knew that part of Nepal as "terai" and "teraibashi" (damn textbook). 11.Hatred towards dark hindi speaking people is there, but unknowingly, assumming, they're from india,not race hatred but hate toward different countrymen (we call white "quire", "bander" etc,british -french,canadian - american fued etc.) but these leaders wanna be are pouring hatred towards pahade knowingly that they are from nepal not china. Intention is needed in order it to be a hate crime. 12.No matter how you try to bring people together knowing the reality, if hate is in heart, yugoslavia will be today's yugoslavia, you cannot change that outcome. But if hate is not there, merely the issue of self rule, the outcome can be similar to canada. 12.To kill the seed of hate is being realistic not idealistic these days.Everybody now wish if Hitler was never there ( going little too far here). 13.Sad but true, free speech sounds good and flourish only when the country is stable and as a whole.High court would have made decision otherwise. 14. And spammer? why we needed law to punish them if it was just free speech? isn't porn free speech too? Most people feel Mr. Bhagat's emails full of hatred as filthy as porn, that's all.Othrwise he can be negleted without any remorse like you said. 15.Bringing childhood bullying and hatred as an example is itself somehow childish. Sadly, it happens all over the world not only in Nepal.That may why we consider adult only after 18.I hardly seen that when everyone is in college- a point where people from all over Nepal meet together.