Rahulvai wrote; "वास्तबिकता यही हो कि नेवार साम्राज्य म शाह बंशे राजाले आधिपत्य जमाएपछि उपत्यका ने हरु लाई पाखा लगाउने र मान मर्यादामा चोट पुर्‍याउन मार्वाडी लाइ भित्र्याएको मा तपाईं राजी हुनु हुन्न भने मेरो केही भन्नु छैन ।" This SOUNDS true. This sort of argument holds some psychological advantage in that it re-assures us that our collective "victimhood" (something we keep beinging up again and again) is not some fiction but is rooted in some historical vague unfair-to-us reality. But This is simply NOT true, though this makes good conversation with loser byaparis when they have their daily Khukuri Rum (produced by a Tarai, Indian-looking entrepreneur from Birgunj) together in some bhatti in Kathmandu. If this is true, Rahulvai, can you please provide some historical sources that we can read and study and THEN make up our mind as to whether this is indeed true? If that;s your own SUSPICION re: how Marwaris ended up in Nepal, then, sorry, we have no obligation treat your suspicions as valid kurakani points. ******* Rahulvai wrote: "माडे मात्र होइन अहिले नेवार् ब्यापरि, नेपाली ब्यापारि ले पनि कर तिरेका छैनन्। नेपाल् को अर्थतन्त्र तिनले इमान्दार्पूर्बक् ब्यापार् गरेको भए बलियो हुन्थ्यो।' OK. So your anger is NOT really at Nepali Marwaris then? You are simply pissed off at ALL these businessmen then? That's fine, and this SHIFTS the terms of this kurakani to the FAILURE of the larger Nepali business community, and that's a separate kurakani altogether. ********* Rahulvai wrote: "राष्ट्रको माया छ रे बिदेशिको हिमायत् गर्दिन। स्वदेशी भए नि देश का भाइरशरुको बिरोध गरी रहन्छु । " I admire your patriotism. I once spent two weeks in Philadelphia -- the city you are currently based in -- visiting museums and all that, basically admiring the historical legacies of patriotic Americans . . . Thankfully, those Americans created a constitution that had its roots in statements like "all are created equal". Even if you learn nothing else in Philadesphia, the City of Brothers, do learn to treat people different from you as equals in the eyes of the law. Tetti ho. **************** Captain wrote: "King Gyanendra, has a lot of Indian blood running in him.' I am NOT a professional historian. Nor do I know much about the palace history. But I have always been intrigued by many small but seemingly close religious, historical and cultural connections between those who were/are in Narayanhiti Palace and the Magars of the present-day Central Nepal. Then again, what do I really know? oohi ashu