no offenses to you eminitrader , you might have made a bucket load of money , but our differences are on the principles of investing , i hope that you have started this thread to educate newbies and even oldbies in to the world of investing , what you have done for you may be right for you , and what i have done may be right for me , but lets not promote hoaxes , you wrote in your previous post "The thing I'm trying to show here is how to identify a trend and take full advantage of it" , there are no trend in the market , the market is a indepedent, dynamic entity that doesnt follow a trend , if it followed there wont be any mutual fund whose return lagged the index , no investment turned sour , no bubbles like the 2000 one , and most of all every one would be millionare ,but that doesnt happen , so lets educate people with facts and not hoaxes , THERE IS NO TREND IN WALL STREET