Ashu, Nepe, Bathroom Coffee, Birbhadra - it is good read your sensible and objective comments. Maddog - You said "capt here thinks that he is the most correct person in this world....rest of us just have opinions and he decides whether they are valid or not..............and capt......please respond....." and then this "who gives a crap about your credit". If I don't give credit for an opposing view point then that's bad. When I do give credit then that's bad too? Make up your mind - which is it? Your prescription of returning the country to royal rule and practicing institutionalized bigotry against those you don't like is not just morally and politically reprehensible, it is not practical or sustainable either. I haven't read a single suggestion from you about how all of this can happen - let alone whether or not it is justifiable. Unless you can come up with how you intend to make this happen, I see no point in any serious conversation. Ashu - "It's fair to say that the Nepali business world has moved on a lot to become, on the whole, a lot more competitive than what it was in the 1800s or the 1900s. " I agree. I think you mentioned this as well, but in the long run, with competition, some of the imbalances we currently see are bound to be corrected. The degree and extent of correction, as I am sure you might agree, will depend on things like market conditions, the political climate and the regional and global economies and perhaps a few other things I may have missed. But most societies that see a correction in political imbalances often seen an economic correction, perhaps not to the same degree, that follows since political upheavals are often caused by economic problems in the first place. Sometimes this correction comes right on the heels of the political one (e.g redistribution of wealth in China soon after the revolution) and sometimes it can come at a much slower pace (India's declining poverty and increasing middle class over 60 years). Ne23pe - "For example, you want to give support to the 30 lakh population in terai which already has raised arms against the Pahade and want their own army and police so they can legally evict Pahade. " Not true. Please don't put words in my mouth. I don't support the JMM or anyone who espouses violence against others solely based on race or ethnicity. I think their tactics are deplorable and they should cease the madness they have unleashed. They are the mirror images of some of the people whom I have been challenging on this thread - two sides of the same coin when it comes to impractical solutions. "One thing Capatain the question you are asking about right to all these people, how about Nepali people who live in India and protected the Indians from foreign agression, what about them getting the same right? " I am all for it. I believe Nepali was incorporated as national language in the 8th schedule of the indian constitution - and I am happy for the Nepali- speaking people in India. I am all for granting people the dignity they deserve - whether in Nepal or in India. I applaud India for good things like this and I deplore them for watching helplessly when there was violence against Nepalese in the Northeast back in the 80s. But let me ask this question: if you ask a Darjeelinge in India and Madise in Nepal as to who gets a fairer treatment in their country - what do you think their answers will be like? My guess is there is a good chance we will hear some answers there that will be hard to digest. Bathroom Coffee - "Tyahiii ta tyo 9-10 ko development ma kahiley pugney ho... ? khaaali yestai saaano tiiino kura aiiimaiii just jhagada garchan. Ani desh ko bikaas kasari huncha ta ? Tyo madhisey lai kasari jeetney bhanera sooochnu ta kahaaa kahaaa khaaaali KETI manchey justo pyar pyar pyar pyar. " I agree with the gist of what you said above - except I do think Tisa has a point there although, to be fair, I suspect you were only making a bit of a light-hearted remark. If you were to take the reference to women out, I would be in complete concurrence with the thought behind that analogy. We can't bit(h our way out of Marwari dominance. Reminds me of what Tom Friedman said "What can be done, will be done. The question is will it be done by you or to you?" Nepe - "Somewhere there resonates my sad discovery that the democracy that American academia preaches and the one US government practices are not the same. So I believe I might be sharing a lot of your views. " That might even be a threesome :) I agree that Jeffersonian democracy cannot be transplanted everywhere. No two democracies are the same - never have been, never will be. I would go so far as arguing that democracy, per se, is more a set of guiding principles than a political system that can have the same supporting structures everywhere. It is for each society to decide what social, political and economic structures they should build to put those guiding principles in to practice. I also share your disappointment over the glaring gap between what America says and does when it comes to so many things - let alone democracy. Self-interest drives almost everything this and other countries do and that's just life. That's how I see it. Sayami - Your creativity never ceases to amaze me even when we don't see eye to eye on the issues :) But I have to express a difference over a point you made, not because you are not right, but because me not doing so would be the same as you not posting the other half a picture you thought was relevant to a topic. "If you want to get rid of drug addicts you have to get rid of first the one who sells drugs." Not completely - there is another side that works with it : the demand-side. Supply of bribes cannot exist in a vacuum - it clearly exists to fulfill the demand of some government officers. Demand for bribery arises, amongst other reasons, because of poverty - both financial, moral and in some cases mental :). Some might accuse the Marwari community of creating this demand, but that would be giving too much credit to the Marwaris. After all, it is not unheard of for government officials to take kickbacks/bribes/commissions from Japanese, Chinese, Americans, Europeans and I would say anyone else on the face of the planet who can cough up the dough.