Posted by: Captain Haddock January 9, 2007
Marwari community wants their representation in interim parliament.
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Ashu, Nepe, Bathroom Coffee, Sgy - Good to hear refreshing voices of sanity in the increasing cacophony of this thread. As someone who wants to see the monarchy abolished, I am licking my chops at some of the comments in this thread. If King Gyanendra were to act on the advice offered by his devotees on this thread, he would be taking the monarchy straight to hell - faster than you can say "Yamraj". Prachanda must be praying the King picks his advisors from Sajha ;) Maddog - Examples of good leaders in the current lot: Girija Koirala, Madhav Nepal, Prachanda And now examples of bad leaders: Girija Koirala, Madhav Nepal, Prachanda In an imperfect world, I don't expect perfect leadership from anyone. But the difference between having them as leaders versus having the King is if you don't like them, you can throw them out at the ballot. What option do you have if you don't like the King? Rise up in arms? Direct rule does not come even close to democracy on this account. And to your point about Shah Kings and their role in shaping Nepal, sure they played their part and I hope history will judge them fairly for what they did. But politics is not about Nepal's past, it is about Nepal's future. So come back from never-never land: the days of direct rule are over! If you cannot or will not comprehend something as basic as this, then I don't see how you can engage in meaningful political dialogue with anyone. Also, your over zealous reverence of the King smacks of a servile attitude that is despicable to say the least. This is still a free country where all people aspire to be treated as equals. If anyone expects others to be subservient to a King in this day and age, then I'd they have some pretty serious developmental issues. Dimple - "Anyways don't you think so Captain " whats in a name that we call rose would smell as sweet if you changed the name" there is no harm done in namecalling it has come with us a long way!! We do that in our everyday talk don't we?? So why make a fuss about it?? I don't really think so. You can speak for yourself there but I think most rational people refrain from name calling, even in day-to-day conversation, because it is a waste of time and distracts from the real issues. Name calling personalizes a discussion often to a point where the conversation becomes one about personalities and not ideas. An ego gratification or protection exercise - depending on how well your side is doing. When personalities , and not ideas, dominate and drive a discussion, nothing meaningful ever comes out of it. With all due respect, I am actually surprised to hear a comment like that coming from you because I don't know how you could seriously say something like that if you have ever had a meaningful and productive dialogue with anyone who disagreed with you. If you and I started calling each other names, what sensible conversation could we possibly make out of it? it's just fine for the marwadi's to be a part of the new Govt. of Nepal if maoists can??Was'nt that the main issue??? " Sure it was. Before the thread morphed into this free-for-all format. Well, at least there is something we can remotely agree on - phew! The Marwaris asked for 2 seats - big deal! No one knows if they are going to get it - they could end up with nothing for all we know. That allocation by ethnic group has a very broad and undefined scope - maybe they will be considered part of the Madesi ethnic group for this purpose or maybe they wont. I don't understand what the hullabaloo is about. To me most of the debate on this thread is motivated by hatred and prejudice and is devoid of any clear thinking. Bahunkto - Sorry to say but your tiresomely pedantic logic is irrelevant to the conversation at hand. Your world-view seems shrouded by archaic notions of caste and ethnic identity. So far, I can't see where it has added any value to either the issue of minority representation or that of public policy in the new Nepal.
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