not trying to argue with u? but the name of the game is to trade like the institutions: Trend, fiboanacci...and Elliot waive ; in a daily chart. But glad to see Neps on trading; I know nep at smith barney but he is into equities..i am at trading desk ..undisclosed rite now out in 3 mins . Good luck; never give up u will make it. by the way try: crude future on lind waldock; its fun too.