Sorry to rub my nose in folks but I agree with SDNY - grow up! And please don't talk of leaving Sajha - both of you. Sajha would be a lot less lively place without you - even though you guys say the the most absurd of things at times. Loote, and if you do disappear, leave your contact info behind, oK? Hope to see all of you on another thread. PS: Loote, if you want to release some raw energy, there is a heated discussion going on that disco dancer posted: It is at - http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1968091,00.html Later folks.