raidilip, I think, I do know a few from your list above.. hmmmm! ************** din, Is Bruce Niven still the GC commander? And it is pathetic that children born to the GC parents get treated in that way. *********8 I-Nepali and Anon, Where are you two?? take care lah!! (My Singlish has never got better ke! :-)) Have a great Chritmas. Carpe diem