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I had made one comment in one of the threads related to the recent discussions about Nas and his album.I don't know why San deleted that thread but I find that as evidence of autocratic nature which also renders useless the recent voting done to show how democratic Sajha is and how sincere its principles are. The comment I made can be summed up as follows: Is San going to monitor the site and make his decisions or is he taking majority rule to make decisions just like the one about Nas? If San is going to let the public decide what they want at Sajha, I don't doubt that one day public will demand porn movies at Sajha. So, are you ready for this San? I find your method of making decisions very childish and immature. You have to think about the future implications of your decisions and your recent voting makes sense only if you are willing to decide future changes based on majority rule. Furthermore, what defines pornography? Are not all the nude girls (I ain't taking about hot n sexy models out there but fully naked ones) a part of porn? Is your definition of porn valid for all or does it have a different meaning at Sajha? And, as somebody pointed out somewhere in the other thread, Nas should also make sure the girls he is using out here are not under-age. Moreover, is Ramjham meant to promote semi-nude pictures copied from other sites or is it meant to display individual talent? I don't care much about the pictures but the policies used by San do have future implications which may not be in favor of the motto of Sajha. Anyway, it is your private site and I have no right to question you for deleting that thread. With all Respect...................

bibas100
Nov 6, 2006 10:48 AM · 14,547 views
15 Replies
BathroomCoffee Nov 6, 2006 11:11 AM
STOP CRYING B!TCH !!!! Wah Wah Wah ........BOOOO hooooo Hooooo !!!! If you find it offensive dun go there B!TCH !! STOP CRYING ABOUT IT. Just cause there are Millions of PORN sites ha ha ha does not mean SAJHA.COM is supporting them. ITS UP TO THE PEOPLE WHO POST THEM(AND THATS HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS...YOU ARE FREE TO POST PICTURES AS LONG AS THER IS NO NUDITY). BUT FUGGERS LIKE YOU WANT TO HIDE AND CONTRIOLL EVERYTHING.
San Nov 6, 2006 11:21 AM
Bibas100, Over the past weeks I have read many postings by you against sajha policy. I realize that I must have made you one very unhappy camper by not allowing you to advertise your blog in sajha. I know that you tried very hard to advertise using different methods but unfortunately as I have reiterated many times, we cannot have people constantly advertising their sites in sajha. I hope you are not taking it personally. I might be mistaken regarding your motive for your dislike towards sajha policies, in which case please pardon my cynicism, and continue below. Sajha is a site that I maintain in order to provide a cyberspace for us Nepalis living away from home to have a place to come together. Because of the volume of postings it is not possible for me to monitor everything. If there are polls, then those are taken in order to get a general feedback; but due to the fact that I maintain and run it, I have to make the final decision. In the history of sajha, I have had to make many decisions and I feel that I have made the right decisions. Few times when I have made an error in judgement, I have made changes accordingly. In summary, sajha is a dynamic site, where changes have to be made depending upon user feedback and my discretion. To answer your question where public is going to decide what happens in sajha, the answer is no. And the simple reason for this no is because polls don't really give an accurate measurement of people's preference in a virtual setting. Out of 20,000 registered users 150 people vote. That is not a good percentage to go by as 'public opinion'. Also, you have to remember that there might be over 10 times more visitors who are not registered. Hence, a public opinion poll is not really an accurate measurement actual opinions. That is why, I take the results of public opinion with a grain of salt and make decisions based on gut feelings and sense of fairness. I hope I have answered your question. On a related note, the reason for sajha kurakani is to share different things about Nepal and Nepalis and other interesting things for the Nepali diaspora, and I personally do not like to make sajha kurakani about sajha or myself. If you have any questions regarding sajha policies I would appreciate you contacting me directly, instead of inviting a public debate. Another reason for this is that there might be some postings that I won't get to read and reply on sajha, and I don't want you to think that I am ignoring you. Best wishes.
bibas100 Nov 6, 2006 12:35 PM
San, I don't think I have made several comments which were against you or for that matter Sajha. I commend your efforts in bringing this site up and there is no way I have felt bad about the blog issue. In fact, I strongly feel you corrected me at the right time and I have always hated advertisements since then. People make mistakes but one has to admit wrong and correct accordingly. And, it has been a long time since then...San...have you seen me doing anything stupid since then???? Getting back to the topic, You have not answered a couple of my questions. Does a nude picture signify pornography? Are there such pictures in Nas's album? What do you think are the future implications of the poll you had? I know it was just for your feedback and the decision you took was already obvious long before the polls, but the way people think about the way you dealt with the situation is totally different. Bathroomcoffee, "...YOU ARE FREE TO POST PICTURES AS LONG AS THER IS NO NUDITY" Are you dumb or were you under alcohol when you posted the comment? Can you not see that there is nudity in Nas's album? Can you see you are contradicting yourself? Using BI**h and F*** words doesn't make your argument strong...learn to articulate first... I am by no means for strict regulations but sometimes things get too messy specially regarding explicit content. Anyway, Thanks for your response San...but I did not see a reason for deleting that post(I don't know who started it but still...). But, overall, kudos to you for maintaining this site. I did have had some help from people on my personal matters in the past few months...
pupiffy Nov 6, 2006 12:42 PM
San bro, You should start imposing fine to the website rule violaters. At least that will generate some funds. Let's start a poll aboout it: Do you want to be fined or blocked if you violate a rule? Fined blocked
Silhouette Nov 6, 2006 12:56 PM
fined
Riten Nov 6, 2006 1:05 PM
San, Ban his freaking As$. The biatch is biatching way too much.
BathroomCoffee Nov 6, 2006 1:31 PM
Yo Crying B!tch Bibas, ha ha ha THERE IS NUDITY IN NAS'S ALBUM ? HA HA HA So swim suits are considered nudity now ? I ain't contradicting myself. TRUST ME I AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS EITHER. BUT I AM NOT GOING TO RESTRICT ANYONE FROM POSTING ANYTHING THEY WANT. AND THATS HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS B!TCH !! NOW STOP CRYING AND SHUT THE FUG UP How about I restrcit you fugging mouth.
BathroomCoffee Nov 6, 2006 1:36 PM
And yeah I'd like to DUCTAPE YOUR MOUTH TOO BUT YOU DON"T SEE ME B!TCHING ABOUT IT.
VincentBodega Nov 6, 2006 2:37 PM
bibas100, Your two second of fame is over. Heres how it is. Sajha is a private website, and for that sole reason owner can do whatever he/she likes. If you are using the services, you live in his/her virtual world for that period of time. You dont pay taxes, and the owner doesnt owe you any explanations at YOUR will. If you dont want to live in it anymore, get out! Dont let the door hit you on your way out. If you want me to take a stab at your questions, let me know. They wont be pretty though. FYI: I am no San and I do not represent his beliefs and ideas. The words written here may and should not be used to imply otherwise.
maidenfreak Nov 6, 2006 3:30 PM
I got some issues against NAS. Well some of you do support him and hey everyone has their own opinions. And as far as Iam concerned yea I got some issues. Well I was trying to open this sajha.com at work i.e. from my school and then the pics are posted at the left side (some semi-nude girls). My friend then goes, "hey girl are u trying to access a porn site." And I ain't that kewl as to think yea whatever who gives a shit I'm viewing a website meant for Nepalese abroad. At home I was again doing this and was going through some stuffs in the home page and then my mom goes "Are you sure you aren't going through some unwanted sites?" Hell no...but since the pics posted there are offesive anyone with half a brain would think that!! Well sajha is a site meant for Nepalese living abroad, almost every Nepali goes through this site to see what everyone has to say regarding the political or whatever situation Nepal's going through and dude it seems like you're turning it to an international site where all the people can view pics of some chicks in indecent outfits or barely dressed at all...duhhh!!! If you're so interested in posting such pics to show that you get such opportunities to meet girls who let you take their pics and all that crap create you're own website and don't post it here.
San Nov 6, 2006 4:22 PM
Bibas100, Sorry for being a cynic about the blog ads. It's nice to know that we are on the same page regarding advertising in kurakani discussions. As for the questions: "You have not answered a couple of my questions. Does a nude picture signify pornography? Are there such pictures in Nas's album? What do you think are the future implications of the poll you had? I know it was just for your feedback and the decision you took was already obvious long before the polls, but the way people think about the way you dealt with the situation is totally different." First of all I don't think there are any totally nude photos on Nas' album which have any private areas exposed fully. As far as nude picture and pornography is concerned, personally I think it depends on the pictures. Some nude portraits can be considered artwork which some nude pictures can be considered pornographic based on the degree of sexuality or explicitness portrayed by the image. This degree can be different for different individuals that's why it's fair to request no nude images uploaded in ramjham. Nas might be correct in saying that his album has been online for almost 7 months and noone really opposed it until he started voicing his opinion about a controversial topic. As far as models in bikini are concerned, we see them on TV all the time. We see them at the beach all the time. Which are both family oriented places, yet, we don't think twice about it. Also when you're walking along Times Square in New York or any big cities, you see posters and or images of models in bikinis, and we don't think twice about it. Do we need to protect our family from walking along the streets of big cities where there can be such posters? We live in pretty modern times where these things are taken for granted and not made a big deal out of. As long as it is not explicit, there should not be any problems. If in a family situation, the images on the front page absolutely bothers you then then the "hide" link can be clicked which will ensure those images do not show up anymore on the browser, so the family members would not see those if they used the same computer. Even in one of the largest Nepali news site kantipuronline.com they have photos of model in swimsuit in the front page. So this should not really be a big deal. I don't mean to undermine the concerns of all you well meaning visitors and I really appreciate you taking time to try to help make this a better site. Ramjham is a relatively new site, and I am trying to promote participation in the site. I found out that without having the updated images show up, users generally don't visit the site. Hence it's in the best interest of the site to have the updated images showup, with full control with the user to hide it effectively from their browsers with one single click! Thanking everyone for their patience and kind consideration in this matter.
sanas Nov 6, 2006 5:44 PM
Good sajha gonna be a FC.UK page. Now it is much fun to surf.LoL.Put more FC.UK Nas dude ;)
VincentBodega Nov 6, 2006 6:07 PM
Nas, I think you have gained your two minutes of fame as well. May be its a wise idea to lay low and do what you do. Just a hunch.
TimroBa Nov 6, 2006 8:38 PM
हाछेऔ......हाछेऔ
oys_chill Nov 6, 2006 10:25 PM
font ko size ali kati thulo pare sooon ma sugantha hune thiyo :)..but again..i hope your cartoons will seek satires in other avenues of sajha as well ..and not only delved in NAS :) best wishes BA!
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