"...I was testing (of course, fictionally) whether an "effortful love" can lead to "effortless love" or at least if they can exist in a duality. " Nepe Jee, Just curious!!!! 1.I am curious and wondering how are you testing it? What efforts have you applied to test it? 2. What I see from your statement that you have created two kinds of love (1) effortfu love (2) effortless love. Is your effortless love same as what J.krishnamurti has talked about all his life? If not, what is it? What are the differecnes that you see between these two kinds of love that you created?