Vishontar-jee, I partially disagree with your logic in the following way. It is a common knowledge that learning PRIMARILY depends on individuals IQ. Then [SECONDARILY] comes the quality of his/her EFFORT. The later might include what you called discipline/self control (let's exclude morality for now). As for morality, it's not the best term to use, because it is subjective. In any case, the contribution of "morality" in general learning is extreme low and definitely INCONSISTENT. "Disciplined" but dull and "immoral" but brilliant people are everywhere. The fact is, a proper management of time is important for learning. Meaning, it is always possible to separate some time for pleasure (okay "immoral") activities without hurting one's education/learning. In fact, depending upon the atmosphere one is, these "immoral" activities might help release one's tension and actually help more in learning afterwards ! However, there is one fundamental thing I disagree with you. That is, a lot of things (qualities) we are talking about do not exist in yes/no state; they exist in their gradation. Bhanchhan ni, not in a BLACK or WHITE state but in GRAY STATE. So if you take various SHADES (instead of BLACK or WHITE) into account, I believe a lot of rigid assumptions you have made will break down. But this is for future discussions. For now, I shared my views on the factors on which learning depends. Nepe