Alright, I think this is a good number to start with.... what I am trying to do here is build a consensus.. It seems like at least from all your post that you guys generally agree with what I am saying so why not take it a step further? To begin with lets not read anyting written in those degrading posts and if we happen to come across one and read it, at least lets not post in it. Yes, it does sound tempting to post your views to contradict these degrading posts, I have myself come to the verge lots of time. So who is in?