superuser ji, i know what you are saying. i don't and i WONT ever bash somebody in public. i, for one, praise mr. bhagat and his freedom of expressions with utmost respect although i may or may not agree with them personally. as for MMN goes, i dont care what he writes about myself or others. we have gone past that level of seriousness and urgency in each other's postings; well at least i have. i was just having some fun with him, with due respect to his own freedom of expression. it's IMPOSSIBLE to reconciliate with him on his views but i do welcome his views and tend to listen to them nevertheless. I am extremely sorry, if my posts in this thread or in any other for that matter have been of offensive nature. please accept my apologies. Loote