Galt, thanks for the respnse. Well, swearing is also not considered profane if you are among like minded people, like if there were just Mr. Luda and your sister in law without anyone else overhearing. I didn't mind using swear words among my friends, I don't think I still mind the occasional slips among them. I think my philosophy is-- whatever you do that may annoy others, don't do it among others who don't like it...