the only reason y ecuador can beat argentina and brazil is cause they play the same style of football.... if any south american teams are facing eachother, you can't be 100% on any teams winning chances... its just like African nations.. they all can play great against each other but not-so-disciplined teams can't do very well with the europeans... its a fact... havin said all this Ecuador isn't too bad of a team but i don't see them goin too far.... I don't see poland goin too far either.. they are one lucky team twice in a row now.. i think europe has too many nations there and some don't deserve to be there.... i don't like poland.. if they will be any good they're just gonna be a surprise team like korea and turkey of 02.. which really sux sometime cause then we won't be watching great footballers in the final rounds... and i hope refrees don't screw up like they do in every world cups by sending great players out for no reason; GianFranco Zola in '94, Zinadine Zidane in 98, thierry henry and Totti in '02, to name few... even Maradona in 82 .... i just hope this year its gonna be fair just like the name suggests... FAIR PLAY. still