Ok PAT whatever you say .i have been defending this for long time ,Please go and read all the posting i have in this topic.u are calling me shallow u should remember why i called u shallow.i thought you are intellect and i guess i was wrong.By giving example of SPA i was giving the examples of change. About using capital letters ,caps lock on ,hahahahaha.. well sorry to see u don't see logic in my arguments till now after 30 or more postings i don't see in your either.