M5: Steve Kerr helped Spurs win a title, Kukoc was old, even when he was with Bulls...pippen took TrailBlazers to the Western Conference finals......We, when I say we, the lakers Supporters are not arguing whether or Nash is the MVP.....we are just rebutting you all Kobe-Bashers than Kobe is being unfairly criticized no matter how hard he plays, for things he had no control over. I know why poeple don't like Kobe becoz they think Shaq left becoz of him...the truth is Shaq left for more money..and demanded the trade when he had one more year with the Lakers...Phil left as his contract was up, and he wanted a part of the Laker's ownership...and Jerry Buss denied, and he left (he came back for more money of course...and Jenny Buss might have promised him something special..)....these facts does not please you guys, and you turn a deaf ear.....Shaq went to Eastern Conference coz he knows that is the weaker conference as compared to the West, and Miami was already good when he got there....Had Shaq agreed to lose 25 lbs in a month like he did in Miami a month ago, I bet he would still be a Laker....he was getting lazier with fat paychecks in Lakers..and had little motivation to be in shape..... Anyways, good discussion guys...at the end of the day, Kobe is still the great, if not the greatest..and you guys can't do anything about it, other than keep on producing more hate-comments !! Let's enjoy the Playoffs !!