what the hell.somebody merely started the thread to get in touch with felllow christians and the thread turned into a debate over the religion itself. everything is susceptible for beating up in sajha. arguments made by some of you guys are very strong. i am not much of a believer myself but hey let the believers have the opportunity for interactions with each other. i don't believe in anything. I either know things or don't know things. when it comes to trusting things I trust science which is most of the time true.